How to give the community itself a boost?

[Cutt3r]

It does not understand nor see the connection between this problem and virtual money.

I humbly beg to differ. Look around. There seems to exist an enemity between smaller, unorganised groups(which is typically the ones in which new players join). Such groups tend to influence the new guy and his attitude takes a beating.
Secondly, the adage "money is power" seems to rule ingame activity. Everyone is trying to make money somehow or the other. People who have been on server for hardly 10 days are using businesses to cheat(it is left to argument whether they are ban evading or not but that is not pertinent).
It is this money gap("I have 45 millionz, ju haz 2 millionz. HAHAHA!"), this feeling of being rich which is one of the causes for the community to generate more @$$holes. The sooner people realise that the virtual money is worthless, the sooner this community will get it's boost...

Hence  sincerely believe that it is related.

[Gird3r]

Another thing relating to admins.

The peak hours (21:00-02:00) CET.
And the Night times (when it's the most often admins are not around).

Timezones that match with these times should be put on an much higher priority when reqruiting potentional admins.

Because most fights and general trolling starts at those times.


I'm just putting this out right now.

Please moderators (some of you), if you do doubt yourself... Ask an admin. If no admin or higher is around. Ask me if I'm online and I will "help" you.
Letting players flame and troll away in mainchat because you are in doubt or feel uneasy about punishing an player just because he's "that wellknown guy" is not good. I'm always ready to help when I'm on the server.

EDIT: You can also PM me on the forums if you got an question and really want an quick answer for it. (Also when I'm online).

[Kojak]

All moderators know exactly what they need to do if they are unsure and the new intake are making excellent progress and are settling in very well. Thank you for your offer to help Gird3r, but if they need assistance they should be asking their colleagues and managers who are up to date with current procedure.

I will address one further point which is the unban requests so it is clear. The last thing I want to see in an unban request is opinions, all I am interested in are the facts. A server ban is a disciplinary action which should be handled efficiently and professionally with as little fuss as possible, wading through potentially dozens and dozens of posts before even being able to consider the actual ban is out of the question.

[JDC]

If we allow non-admins to post, you can expect Unban Requests to become another forum board flooded with "good luck" posts.

I only read the first post since I cba to go through another SA:MP argument, but I will say one thing.

The root of all the problems concerned is the greed of the players which has risen far beyond the levels in the early Argonath days, which is also the reason for the "when I came here in 200X argo was" posts..

[Emre]

If we allow non-admins to post, you can expect Unban Requests to become another forum board flooded with "good luck" posts.

Disregarding a few exceptions, that worked out and comparing to today it caused a way better atmosphere ...

[Kojak]

It may work out for you, but it doesn't work out for whoever has to deal with the unban request itself and that is the only thing that matters, other people's opinions only serve to complicate the issue. If you have something important to say about a player's ban, the section moderators are marked and you can send them a PM.

[Emre]

Opinions aren't even there to confuse, so that's more like an issue that changes by whoever deals with it.
It has always been a nice gesture to write a goodluck post or a "you saw it coming". Nevertheless, these resulted in arguments as well.

[Antonio.]

The community is obviously going down the path the old players did not want it to go.

[JayL]

The root of all the problems concerned is the greed of the players which has risen far beyond the levels in the early Argonath days, which is also the reason for the "when I came here in 200X argo was" posts..

You are complaining about humans being humans. Stop giving players scripts and perhaps that will be an incentive to make them start improvising and seeing the bigger picture behind it all.

[Hevar.]

It has always amazed me how lots and lots of people apply for moderator, however fail to help new players with basic questions like "how do I change my skin?"..

+1

[Antonio.]

Have only /me exist, and everyone's money -99999999

[Chris_Knight]

Have only /me exist, and everyone's money -99999999

Supported.

[Que]

I wouldn't play if I had no chance of earning, wasting or winning money.
Does that make me a bad person?

[Cero]

I wouldn't play if I had no chance of earning, wasting or winning money.
Does that make me a bad person?

It's human nature to strive for more.

No.

[Cutt3r]

Que - Nope, it doesn't. My statement was general. It was to see the larger picture, not a limited one.

At the time of launch of RS 4.0, there was a huge beta test, involving everyone from server. All scripts were checked out, including money. Millions were transferred between people, the atmosphere was cordial and there was no cheating whatsoever. There was the sense of impermanence amongst everyone. Maybe it was this factor which led to the perfect atmosphere.

What I mean in the above is  that although money is not by itself the problem(yes, I had worded it wrongly in my previous posts, apologies), the greed is. With the usage of /store and /growweed, although developers tried to simply give us a more enjoyable RP time, it resulted in people cheating more(not all people ofc!). It was not the fault of the owners.  It was the attitude amongst certain players which is spreading like a virus.

Now, unless we all make a conscious sincere effort at changing our attitudes that virtual money is nothing important, nothing is gonna change. 

I will close this post by summarising - Change the attitude, don't worry about the money and the community will get it's boost through friendship and a cordial atmosphere.