How to give the community itself a boost?

[ChasKa]

What's equally bad are people moaning about others (especially about new players, hurr durr how friendly and welcoming) being "non RP money hungry". Simplest solution is to hire people and give them role-play jobs. That way the new guys will have a chance to earn some money, as well as get exposed to role-play.

Please don't exagerate the situation.Those who blame others can't role play are just minority and cannot represent overall altitude of players.
Also,the problem of nowadays is repetition. We can imagine selling virtual things like flowers,potato,car windows etc.
but if you repeat the "imaginative" dealing for years,it will be boring.
So the problem is not "new players is not welcomed" - I can see many new players around even though I seldom play these days while I never see  experienced players any longer like Seskom/Cofi,Eugene,Nitroxx.

[Que]

Que - Nope, it doesn't. My statement was general. It was to see the larger picture, not a limited one.

I do disagree about dough being the general issue-maker, the attitude does not change just because you get rich over a virtual game. There might be a few retarded snails whose sincere wish is to be as rich as possible, not giving a blink to anyone else. Most of the long-runners within this community are rich by now, they have been for several years and there's basically nothing who indicates them being any different than someone who has a low amount of dough. As Cofiliano, and now also Chaska stated; Argonath's true veterans are slowly decreasing in scale. I could make the list long of extraordinarily individuals who had one big status and bunch of respect of the fellows around the community itself, these individuals are no longer around, simply because they decided to turn into different roads than the ones remaining. The new generation of Argonathians has sincerely not replaced them, not even close of being able to do it.

[Cutt3r]

I respect your point of view Que.

Somehow, I come from a generation of roleplayers where there were no drugs/weapon storage facilities, limited cars to buy, where people bought stuff for thousands of dollars without getting anything in return but still enjoyed it to the core. Hell, we couldn't even do a /sit .

But still, we enjoyed our roleplay, made friends and to this day, do communicate with each other off and on(although, like other good things, that is coming to an end). See, our mindset was such that we did not care whether we ACTUALLY got anything from the transaction. We just wanted a good time, and we got it too.

In order to make the community what it was before, we do suffer a dearth of like minded pro-active individuals who can take charge of the community and make it what it once was. There is no dearth for the virus-like money minded individuals who worry about the $100 which they lose when they die but don't bat an eyelid when they cheat their way to make the millions. What we need are strong minded, patient individuals who can take new players under their wing. Maybe that is the answer to how the community can be given it's boost. Maybe, one day, we will have people who do not care about a few thousands leaving their virtual account although they get nothing in return.

It maybe due to my experiences with money in both systems, which makes me take a stand contrary to yours . In all honesty, I respect your views.

[CharlieKasper]

I do disagree about dough being the general issue-maker, the attitude does not change just because you get rich over a virtual game. There might be a few retarded snails whose sincere wish is to be as rich as possible, not giving a blink to anyone else. Most of the long-runners within this community are rich by now, they have been for several years and there's basically nothing who indicates them being any different than someone who has a low amount of dough. As Cofiliano, and now also Chaska stated; Argonath's true veterans are slowly decreasing in scale. I could make the list long of extraordinarily individuals who had one big status and bunch of respect of the fellows around the community itself, these individuals are no longer around, simply because they decided to turn into different roads than the ones remaining. The new generation of Argonathians has sincerely not replaced them, not even close of being able to do it.

If by new generation you mean 2011, I see Gavino as one of the few new players who have actually attained some respectful skills around.

[Que]

If by new generation you mean 2011, I see Gavino as one of the few new players who have actually attained some respectful skills around.

Gavino and Dellstorm. After that it's completely dimmed.

[Mario_Rinna]

Who's Gavino?

[Antonio.]

Who's Gavino?

That just killed it.

[Que]

Who's Gavino?

Exactly what I meant.

[Antonio.]

The latest person I could think of that came up with nice and helpful ideas was iMunna, and he has gone a while ago...

[Emre]

The latest person I could think of that came up with nice and helpful ideas was iMunna, and he has gone a while ago...

Word.

[Mario_Rinna]

The latest person I could think of that came up with nice and helpful ideas was iMunna

Name one.

That just killed it.

Exactly what I meant.

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[Que]

???

You pretty much summed up what I've been talking about for the last replies with that reply of yours.

[Antonio.]

Name one.

Can't find the topic or anything, but it was about helping new players

[Mario_Rinna]

You pretty much summed up what I've been talking about for the last replies with that reply of yours.

Is it so hard to give a link?

[Que]

What.