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Backup command for law organizations

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Reply #30 on: February 21, 2012, 12:45:00 pm
Make a difference :)

And as you all know, some percent of players will rarely be a teamwork player because they are only after the money, fast cars and "prestige". ^^



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Reply #31 on: February 21, 2012, 02:17:12 pm
I come there to play. Teaching is not an option, 9 out of 10 people do not listen, and 9 out of 10 people on Argonath do not have the patience to explain others...

Who else should make a difference if not the players themselves ? Admins, Moderators, Managers, commands ? I m just little confused, why you think that a command for calling backup improves teamwork ? Maybe I have misunderstood you, i dont know.

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...If I DO have time, the player won't listen. It is a waste of time to teach other cops how everything should be done, because they keep making the mistakes even if you have teached them....

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9 out of 10 people do not listen

If you reach every 10th player then you are already making a difference. If someone else is also doing it then 2 people have been led to "right" way. I understand that not everyone want to spend time on making things better and teaching others. Let me tell you guys, some time ago (not that long actually) cops in the server even worse. They abused their commands, broke laws/rules, no RP. But now there are many cops who can RP, who dont abuse and are genuinely good cops. Things are improving, it just takes time (and effort). This command would not improve teamwork, cause even if its there then what should the players do with that location that is given to them in radio ? They would still most probably have to press ESC and check the map, cause I doubt they have learned the street names by their heart.

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And as you all know, some percent of players will rarely be a teamwork player because they are only after the money, fast cars and "prestige". ^^

You are probably right, but this just means these players do not want to play as team so it's best to leave them alone. They will reach a point where money doesnt matter to them anymore and thats the breaking point where you can see players are starting to give something back. I think we just have to wait till everyone purse is full of money and then we can see some changes :)



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Reply #32 on: February 21, 2012, 03:46:46 pm
Who else should make a difference if not the players themselves ? Admins, Moderators, Managers, commands ? I m just little confused, why you think that a command for calling backup improves teamwork ? Maybe I have misunderstood you, i dont know.
Commands, tutorials, and proper information. This is the way people learn things. That is the main goal of tutorials and guides, and there's so many of them. You did get my point right, /bu is suggested to make teamwork better. It saves alot of time typing out your backup request (no matter if your request contains 10 codes, locations or anything else.. any message that has to be typed in /r takes time), and other players know that you need help within a second. Other cops are notified about the backup, and that it is legitimate.. And there's a higher chance they will be responding to the backup call. If you'd type it out in /r, it is not always trustable. Sometimes a player screams for help in the radio while it was not supposed for the radio. Just an example. I could name others at another time I guess.

If you reach every 10th player then you are already making a difference. If someone else is also doing it then 2 people have been led to "right" way. I understand that not everyone want to spend time on making things better and teaching others. Let me tell you guys, some time ago (not that long actually) cops in the server even worse. They abused their commands, broke laws/rules, no RP. But now there are many cops who can RP, who dont abuse and are genuinely good cops. Things are improving, it just takes time (and effort). This command would not improve teamwork, cause even if its there then what should the players do with that location that is given to them in radio ? They would still most probably have to press ESC and check the map, cause I doubt they have learned the street names by their heart.
IF we reach the 10th player, indeed. Like I said, 9 out of 10 professional cops on the server do not even reach 5, because they either crash, leave or go off duty. Tutoring step by step is a very hard process, takes too much time and has a small effect. However, explaining things and having information commands available will certainly help the case. As I said above, this command DOES improve teamwork.



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Reply #33 on: February 21, 2012, 04:47:20 pm
This is a game on which we spend time. Actually, it's a game mode that supports innovative behaviour with lots of imagination.. as that, it should remain as simple as it can be without help from scripts. :)

I didn't get that in the beginning, but now.. it's more clearly to me :3



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Reply #34 on: February 21, 2012, 05:04:27 pm
Make a difference :)

And as you all know, some percent of players will rarely be a teamwork player because they are only after the money, fast cars and "prestige". ^^
This is true as it is hard to work in a team bacause, as we all know, the cop job is (one of) the best paid jobs and most people become a cop for money.
And actually since I`m a bit of a hipster and I don`t like the fast expensive cars, because they are more common than any normal car ( Like my stratum or chavos) which makes it worthless in my eyes...

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Reply #35 on: February 21, 2012, 05:07:52 pm
That's why I would like someone to suggest that "exotic" cars are at least twice expensive than now. :3

Something like 300k for Infernus, like 300 for Lamborgihini.. but, I know that wouldn't ever be accepted so I just mumble when I see a guy with 5+ cars ^^



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Reply #36 on: February 21, 2012, 10:53:34 pm
This is a game on which we spend time. Actually, it's a game mode that supports innovative behaviour with lots of imagination.. as that, it should remain as simple as it can be without help from scripts. :)

I didn't get that in the beginning, but now.. it's more clearly to me :3
Time that we almost never have when in a chase. Having the /bu command available will surely make more time available for more useful things.

If /bu is not going to be added, I think the thought of /m1, /m2 and /m3 has to be rethought aswell. Perhaps we should remove those. I mean, what's the point of having /m1-/m3 when we can type it all out like the backup calls? It is the exact same thing and I have heard no-one talking about this point.



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Reply #37 on: February 21, 2012, 10:57:49 pm
/m1-/m3 are much longer than 'Backup at Downtown!'. I don't know, I wouldn't be happy to see this command in game, I can't say why..maybe because cop duty is already filled with commands that make this job easier.



 


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