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Reply #30 on: April 12, 2012, 02:13:53 pm
People posses the power to make changes. I have done enough travelling to know what the world is like. Saying it is impossible for these people to move somewhere else is just as ignorant.

We don't really care that you have traveled.
The only way to see "what the world is like" is to live in each country for a few years, work and experience things in the countries, not just staying in hotels in different countries and say you have seen it all.



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Reply #31 on: April 12, 2012, 02:15:25 pm
People posses the power to make changes. I have done enough travelling to know what the world is like. Saying it is impossible for these people to move somewhere else is just as ignorant.

Show some damn respect. There are people dying in countries like these because of the natural disaster. They don't choose where they were born so don't come over here acting as if you own the world saying they should move. People in those countries are possibly twice the man you'll ever be.

After seeing you say things like this, I wish that you were in those countries suffering. You wouldn't like that then would you?

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Reply #32 on: April 12, 2012, 03:24:45 pm
People posses the power to make changes. I have done enough travelling to know what the world is like. Saying it is impossible for these people to move somewhere else is just as ignorant.

Clearly you cannot understand the point we are putting across. We are not talking about a few dozen or hundred people. We are talking about thousands and millions of people. Thousands and millions of people cannot simply just get up and move.

It's always possible if the migrant secures a job in the country before they move over, or already have the money and just do so anyways..

Of course, everyone from a second and third world country plagued with natural disaster has a very large sum of money in their bank just in case they want to move, oh, and they also have an education decent enough to get a job.

What's that? They don't? Oh, well snap.

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Reply #33 on: April 12, 2012, 04:03:10 pm
Show some damn respect. There are people dying in countries like these because of the natural disaster. They don't choose where they were born so don't come over here acting as if you own the world saying they should move. People in those countries are possibly twice the man you'll ever be.

After seeing you say things like this, I wish that you were in those countries suffering. You wouldn't like that then would you?

If I happened to live in this type of place I would do what every smart immigrant does, move to a western nation like Canada that supports free immigration so that people can have a better life. Sure they don't choose where they were born, but nothing is stopping them from making the choice to leave for a better life....

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After seeing you say things like this, I wish that you were in those countries suffering. You wouldn't like that then would you?

If I was suffering I sure as hell would not sit around and accept it. I would either pack up and move or fight for change. You act as if its some sort of impossibility that these people can't leave, yet I know many many people here in Canada who moved here because they wanted a better life, and they have received that.

The options are there, these people just need to choose them...



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Reply #34 on: April 12, 2012, 05:57:32 pm
The options are there, these people just need to choose them...

Clearly you cannot understand the point we are putting across. We are not talking about a few dozen or hundred people. We are talking about thousands and millions of people. Thousands and millions of people cannot simply just get up and move.

Of course, everyone from a second and third world country plagued with natural disaster has a very large sum of money in their bank just in case they want to move, oh, and they also have an education decent enough to get a job.

What's that? They don't? Oh, well snap.

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Reply #35 on: April 12, 2012, 08:10:29 pm
If I happened to live in this type of place I would do what every smart immigrant does, move to a western nation like Canada that supports free immigration so that people can have a better life. Sure they don't choose where they were born, but nothing is stopping them from making the choice to leave for a better life....

If I was suffering I sure as hell would not sit around and accept it. I would either pack up and move or fight for change. You act as if its some sort of impossibility that these people can't leave, yet I know many many people here in Canada who moved here because they wanted a better life, and they have received that.

The options are there, these people just need to choose them...

It's a 3rd world country. These people don't have thousands of pounds sitting around in their bank which they can spend moving to other countries. Any educated person knows that.

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Reply #36 on: April 12, 2012, 08:13:54 pm
Safetymoose is trolling.


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Reply #37 on: April 12, 2012, 09:11:22 pm
Safetymoose is trolling.

Quite clearly.

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Reply #38 on: April 12, 2012, 10:09:18 pm
It's a 3rd world country. These people don't have thousands of pounds sitting around in their bank which they can spend moving to other countries. Any educated person knows that.

Any educated person would know that Canada has one of the largest Disaster / Political refugee programs in the world. Allowing these people to get here for pretty much 0 cost to them.

And no i'm not trolling, I whole heartedly believe every word im saying.



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Reply #39 on: April 12, 2012, 10:21:15 pm
Any educated person would know that Canada has one of the largest Disaster / Political refugee programs in the world. Allowing these people to get here for pretty much 0 cost to them.

And no i'm not trolling, I whole heartedly believe every word im saying.

Okay so you're saying that Canada will happily let over 200 million Indonesian people move to there right?

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Reply #40 on: April 12, 2012, 10:28:04 pm
This has clearly gone way off topic.

Final warning, stay on topic or this will be locked.


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There were 3 more earthquakes that day as well, one in Washington State and another in Mexico

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Reply #41 on: April 12, 2012, 10:32:58 pm
This has clearly gone way off topic.

Final warning, stay on topic or this will be locked.

The points we are discussing are related to the original topic.

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Reply #42 on: April 12, 2012, 10:49:59 pm
The points we are discussing are related to the original topic.

Barely, it got to the point where they were arguing over Canada.

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Reply #43 on: April 12, 2012, 10:50:30 pm
In the OP, I don't see anything referring to Canada or anything about which country is best & health care. How is that related to the original topic?
The discussion we are currently having is to do with disaster prone areas and their wealth when it comes to "moving from" said areas, this is directly related to the original topic due to the discussion of the Indonesian people conceptually "moving" country. Most of the other points i.e. the health care were used as mere exampled to strengther other points and to get them across to other more easily.

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Barely, it got to the point where they were arguing over Canada.
Yes, they may have began arguing over which country is better etc. but the rest kept the discussion within the boundaries as mentioned above. I do not see why an entire discussion should be closed down for everyone due to a few people shifting the topic erratically.

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Reply #44 on: April 12, 2012, 10:54:39 pm
Barely, it got to the point where they were arguing over Canada.

It's safetymoose and his love for his shit country. Nothing more to it basically.  :banana:



 


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