Trial against Breivik

[Swig]

This is ONE of his 3 cells, he has his own cell for working out, Norway has a nice system about jails. A man sent into jail for speeding has it worse than this, they actually have to do a job when in the cells, Breivik even has a computer.When those 21 years is over, the court will go keep him in the cells, make a court case to see if he can go free, if not, 21 years again. And it will keep going like that, but if he evens gets out, he will stay in a mental hospital for the rest of his life.

Jack, thats actually wrong.
After 21 years (remember that in Norway a jail year is 9 months) when the jail time expires, he can be brought to court again, for re-asses. Then if the court concludes that he is still a danger to the society, he an be extended for 5 years at a time, but there is no upper limit for how many times this can go on. But as we all understand, if he gets 90 years old for example, how dangerous can he be...

And he wont stay in a mental hospital after jail, if he is not concluded insane. But, however if he is, he will not go to jail as he can not by Norwegian law, be punished for what he did, if he is concluded insane.

Also, a lot of you does not understand why we have a trial about this case in Norway, when it's so obvious, and how the Norwegian Court System works, well i found this very good site, that have it explained, so i suggest all of you that are interested in this case, to read the article: http://www.businessinsider.com/explained-the-norwegian-legal-system-where-mass-murderer-breivik-is-on-trial-2012-4

[Que]

Can they release you early for good behaviour like in Canada and the US?

I don't know about prisoners who has 21-year sentences in Norway, but I believe so. In Sweden when you get, let's say ten years, you are automatically out after five if you behave good.

[Swig]

I don't know about prisoners who has 21-year sentences in Norway, but I believe so. In Sweden when you get, let's say ten years, you are automatically out after five if you behave good.

In norway, you only need to serve 2/3 of your punishment if you are good behaving. However in this case, it will have nothing to say, as the prosecution will if he is not concluded insane, want to keep him for more then 21 years, so the case can be taken up again, and again and so on..

[Matt Murdock]

If you consider that you feel killing someone is inhumane, then would doing the same as punishment not be inhumane ?

He didn't kill someone, as in not one person, nor 2 or 3, He killed 77 people all alone! He's like a freakin ninja! The earlier we finish him off the better .  :skull:

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

Against which muslims is he? Just any muslims living in Norway or extreme jihad / Sharia muslims?

[SafetyMoose]

He played World of Warcraft apparently... This guy is a Gamer XD

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/9211988/Anders-Breivik-unable-to-distinguish-reality-says-professor.html


I dug up a pic of his main.



Guy was probably a boss at instances.

[Gimli]

Yeah, they even put up pictures of his character in the trial, made him laugh

He spent a year sleeping and playing wow, doing nothing else at all.. Should've joined argonatg instead, would still be addicted and noone would have died

Does anyone know if the trial is in English? nvm - "Trial is being simultaneously interpreted into English. We have wireless headphones in court." Means the translation is not 100% accurate and might even be biased.

[Matt Murdock]

Yeah, they even put up pictures of his character in the trial, made him laugh

He spent a year sleeping and playing wow, doing nothing else at all.. Should've joined argonatg instead, would still be addicted and noone would have died

Does anyone know if the trial is in English? nvm - "Trial is being simultaneously interpreted into English. We have wireless headphones in court." Means the translation is not 100% accurate and might even be biased.

A real life DM'er on Argonath?  :conf: Admins will be 24X7 like this then :

[[WS]Jacob]

He has killed 77 people over the killings he conducted. He claims that it was 'self defence'. I'm no judge but to kill 77 people in 3 different places doesn't seem like you are defending yourself, but deliberately murdering innocent people. He has been caught on camera the best evidence and if I was sentencing him he'd be in the electric chair right now.

[Gandalf]

He has killed 77 people over the killings he conducted. He claims that it was 'self defence'. I'm no judge but to kill 77 people in 3 different places doesn't seem like you are defending yourself, but deliberately murdering innocent people. He has been caught on camera the best evidence and if I was sentencing him he'd be in the electric chair right now.

He feels the need to defend himself and his country against what he feels is selling it out to other cultures.
Kind of like someone would wage war against a leader of a country because they feel he is not democratic....

[Nathan_Alexandrov]

He has killed 77 people over the killings he conducted. He claims that it was 'self defence'. I'm no judge but to kill 77 people in 3 different places doesn't seem like you are defending yourself, but deliberately murdering innocent people. He has been caught on camera the best evidence and if I was sentencing him he'd be in the electric chair right now.

Why death? Death results in minimal pain and its over with quickly. Why not tie him down over a bamboo shoot?

[AnnaR]

Or someone could just off him to end the entire mess. I wonder why they haven't already.

These kind of people... IMO they should not even be protected by human rights, since they have given up their humanity through these cruel acts. The government should just put him to death.

I really dont wanna defend a guy like this but I am actully glad he is put to jail and have a fair trial, it shows how great the system works in Norway 

Anders Behring Breivik is put to jail the rest of hes life even if hes considered insane he will serve in a psychiatric hostpital. I heard in the news that tommorow he will continue hes speach about the massacre in Utoya. I think he gets alot of attention, atleast in Norway. We should think and feel for the families of the victims and not the man behind these gruesome acts because its attention he wants.

[Nathan_Alexandrov]

I really dont wanna defend a guy like this but I am actully glad he is put to jail and have a fair trial, it shows how great the system works in Norway (Even if the court case cost us twenty million dollars)

Anders Behring Breivik is put to jail the rest of hes life even if hes considered insane he will serve in a psychiatric hostpital. I heard in the news that tommorow he will continue hes speach about the massacre in Utoya. I think he gets alot of attention, atleast in Norway. We should think and feel for the families of the victims and not the man behind these gruesome acts because its attention he wants.

I can to giving someone a fair trial. You mentioned about the attention he seeks we if you ask me that can be switched in a reverse effect. If he is made an example of via fierce punishment it will show the world that countries wont take shit like this. However knowing the world today you'd get a group of activists that believe its too far.

[Gandalf]

I can to giving someone a fair trial. You mentioned about the attention he seeks we if you ask me that can be switched in a reverse effect. If he is made an example of via fierce punishment it will show the world that countries wont take shit like this. However knowing the world today you'd get a group of activists that believe its too far.

According to his own statements he would respect a death sentence, however sees imprisonment as a weakness of the system. He is using his spotlights very clever to attract attention.

[Exterminator]

I wonder if giant video game titles are gonna be affected, seeing that breikik admitted to getting "trained" with mw2.

For those of us who played it, its obvious where he got the idea of a mass killing with a gun. Though infinity ward never would of seen this one coming, the giant amount of shootings would be minimized if he didnt get such a good idea of it.