Robbing is Forcing RP?

[EliteTerm]

Deathmatching is still deathmatching, even though there can be a million reasons for it.

Deathmatching is killing without a reason, so this statement is inherently untrue.

I know you cannot deathmatch without a reason, but JDC is correct about having millions of reasons for it because they come up with bullshit excuses like "I'm bored" or "It's that time of the month, ignore me."

[oshri1094]

Seems like many of you really have misunderstood the point with what's forced role-play and what's not.

Icompletelyagreewiththatstatement.

[JDC]

"It's that time of the month, ignore me."

I especially love hearing this from male players. :cool:

Panda's statement is correct, defining deathmatching as attacking without any reason. However, it is still the grounds for punishment when you attack someone outside of any rules as well, regardless of your reason / motivation.

[Mikal]

People should have the common sense to know whats deathmatching and whats not, if there isnt a topic already maybe Argonaths leaders should make one up for these confused people.

[Dexter]

People should have the common sense to know whats deathmatching and whats not, if there isnt a topic already maybe Argonaths leaders should make one up for these confused people.

Difference of oponions is one thing what seperate us from monkeys  :idea:

[Mikal]

Difference of oponions is one thing what seperate us from monkeys  :idea:

What about gorillas?

[Dexter]

What about gorillas?

Well gorillas are very different and strong. Unlike some of people. For example defenceless victims of robberies.

Also Gorillas are kinda cool. Just look at this neat one over here


And not meant to be offensive. I just find it funny pic.

[Mikal]

Didn't know gorillas had finger nails.  :razz:

[Jubin]

Now here's the thing. I have been in this situation quite a lot when I am in-game on the side of the guy who refuses to role play. Mostly because I find the robbery roleplay premise repulsive and unimaginative. Yes I can't refuse to interact with a person, so I do say something along the lines "guys, I really don't want to roleplay with you right now" that's interacting. Also role play means the participation of at least 2 players. When I say that I do not want to role play it means I am not in the roleplay situation and I consider it as a deathmatch if you kill me.

"Well why are you in a RPG server if you are not role playing?" I am in Argonath, that's why! I may have other activities beside role playing. Mostly when I am online I am talking to a lot of people whether it be about politics, history, religion, video games or just telling and making jokes. Also I might be teaching new players. There is no actual rule that states "As long as you are in the server you have to role play" All the admins do not do it as they have other things on their hands, so can players.

"Then we don't have to roleplay with cops either, when they pull us over!" - True on one condition! If you don't break any traffic rules! Cops can't pull you over if you drive carefully and under the speed limit, but you are mostly kidding yourself when you think you aren't going over 80mph.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

Now here's the thing. I have been in this situation quite a lot when I am in-game on the side of the guy who refuses to role play. Mostly because I find the robbery roleplay premise repulsive and unimaginative. Yes I can't refuse to interact with a person, so I do say something along the lines "guys, I really don't want to roleplay with you right now" that's interacting. Also role play means the participation of at least 2 players. When I say that I do not want to role play it means I am not in the roleplay situation and I consider it as a deathmatch if you kill me.

"Well why are you in a RPG server if you are not role playing?" I am in Argonath, that's why! I may have other activities beside role playing. Mostly when I am online I am talking to a lot of people whether it be about politics, history, religion, video games or just telling and making jokes. Also I might be teaching new players. There is no actual rule that states "As long as you are in the server you have to role play" All the admins do not do it as they have other things on their hands, so can players.

"Then we don't have to roleplay with cops either, when they pull us over!" - True on one condition! If you don't break any traffic rules! Cops can't pull you over if you drive carefully and under the speed limit, but you are mostly kidding yourself when you think you aren't going over 80mph.

I agree with you that Argonath is more than just roleplaying, but like Gandalf said, if you choose to play in the server you are obliged to roleplay when someone interacts with you.

No matter how much you try to rationalize it, common sense still dictates that killing someone because they did not give you $2 is outright ridiculous. If you go to the USA and point knives at people while threatening to kill them because they did not give you $2, try and count the amount of people who will just laugh.

With $2, I meant to say that I did not request any outrageous amount, I just wanted the player to participate in the roleplay, which he can not refuse.

This is where improvising comes in. If you actually had that ability, you would be able to change a failed robbery roleplay into a successful different type of roleplay.

Like?

You are in no position to decide how we work, or to b*tch about our work simply we do not attend to reports that are made because of the smallest fart on the server. If 3 people are getting abused and deathmatched by rogue cops at once while 2 hackers are flying around the server like characters from a Marvel comic strip, then expect us to prioritize those cases over a report made because someone farted or did not want to RP with you.

I did not b*tch about your work, I pointed out that administration made a mistake and falsely kicked me.
You are extremely stubborn if you deny this fact.
Also set your facts straight, I was not the one reporting anyone.

Much of our time is spent investigating, and the team certainly deserves more thanks than useless complaints made by thankless rogues such as you (especially Managers and above who spend hours on log checks because someone moaned about getting flamed or scammed), simply because we do not take the time out to change your diapers.

Come on big boy, what you just stated is not in any way connected to me since I did not report anyone and noany logs had to be checked. Also I don't see why you're saying bullshit like the bolded out parts, no need to drop your balls all over this topic.
You are changing this in an immature argument.

Alright. So I join the server, see a random guy, and scream at him "Hey you! f**k your mom!"... by your logic, I am roleplaying with him.

If you're playing a mental person, yes.

[saberman]

You kill them because they don't give you $2?

Nice.

This.

In my opinion, death-matching is shooting without RP, not without reason.

[Mikro]

This.

In my opinion, death-matching is shooting without RP, not without reason.

Without RP, thus without making sure the opponent knows the reason. And the reason should be valid.

Shooting a hobo to dead because he does not own any money is not really a reason in my eyes...

[Aldo]

Without RP, thus without making sure the opponent knows the reason. And the reason should be valid.

Shooting a hobo to dead because he does not own any money is not really a reason in my eyes...

How is the robber suppose to know you don't have any money?

Killing someone for refusing to give you money in a robbery is NOT DM, the reason the victim died is as clear as the sky is blue. The victim died because he failed to comply - VALD Reason to kill someone, How do I know? Cops use it all the time

@Jubin use skpe, ts, msn etc. for that then since you don't want to rp but chat

[Jubin]

@Jubin use skpe, ts, msn etc. for that then since you don't want to rp but chat

Not all players have skype, TS, MSN etc. Also what is the downside of me not role playing with everyone in sight? I mean I do not stop anyone else from playing.

I agree with you that Argonath is more than just roleplaying, but like Gandalf said, if you choose to play in the server you are obliged to roleplay when someone interacts with you.

Yes, Gandalf said I am obliged to role play, but I am not obliged to role play 100% of the time.

[ChasKa]

You kill them because they don't give you $2?

Nice.

Technically speaking,the reason for the kill is "Failure to comply.Not the issue about "Amount of money".
You may say the robber are crazy and do not follow human common sense but he do not rule-break in all sense
He is not rulebreaking-he do have a reason simply "failure to comply after several warning".
Is killing a person who don't want to be killed mean deathmatching?What is Dming?

You think that failure to pay$2 and die is ridulous,I think that failure to comply with cop and being kill is riduculous too.
It's about your point of value.

The author action is lack of mercy is harsh and not recommended but meantime,he doesn't break any rules.

Also,I have flip through pages and one elite rp-er recommend author to do a roleplay blackmail...sorry..what blackmailer do when the victim failure to comply? lol release him?Common sense please

Post Merge: April 25, 2012, 08:03:47 pm

Without RP, thus without making sure the opponent knows the reason. And the reason should be valid.

Shooting a hobo to dead because he does not own any money is not really a reason in my eyes...

So is shooting a person because I am a police and see a hobo pissing in the public is a real reason in your eyes?