World Trade Center news updates and discussion.

[Mikal]

I agree, but equipping towers with missle defense systems is completely ridiculous. There's a reason why airport security is as tight as it is now since the 9/11 attacks.

Oh so surrounding the 2012 Olympic stadium with them isnt? :roll:

[Alsatian]

Oh so surrounding the 2012 Olympic stadium with them isnt? :roll:

I never said it wasn't.

[Mikal]

I never said it wasn't.

I know but they are kind of the same thing.. :razz:

[JDC]

If you compare the two, it'd make more sense putting SAM missiles on a globally famous building rather than on top of some residential site, as bombing the missile sites would mean bombing residential buildings rather than your actual intended target.

[Mikal]

If you compare the two, it'd make more sense putting SAM missiles on a globally famous building rather than on top of some residential site, as bombing the missile sites would mean bombing residential buildings rather than your actual intended target.

So, you don't think they should be using missiles to protect the thousands of people tat will be at the London Olympics?
And also, bombing a ground to air missile site is basicly just impossible unless it's broken or out of missiles....  :poke:

[Alsatian]

I know but they are kind of the same thing.. :razz:

Yes, they are both absurd.

So, you don't think they should be using missiles to protect the thousands of people tat will be at the London Olympics?
And also, bombing a ground to air missile site is basicly just impossible unless it's broken or out of missiles....  :poke:

They should not, no. The death toll from the wreckage could be just as bad. Security measures should be in place to prevent the need for any such missle defense system in the first place.

[JDC]

They should not, no. The death toll from the wreckage could be just as bad. Security measures should be in place to prevent the need for any such missle defense system in the first place.

Let's talk worst case scenario and find a practical solution.

You see an airplane headed straight into the London Olympics and / or the World Trade Center, which will crash in 5 minutes. What will you do to avoid thousands of deaths?

[Alsatian]

I would hope that a situation like that wouldn't even have to be contemplated due to the increased airport security, but if a plane did end up hi-jacked and was heading for the Olympic Stadium with five minutes to impact, I would alert the spectators and all present within to evacuate as quickly as possible. I know it doesn't sound like much of an effective and life saving method, but I would still go with it over the use of missle defense systems.

I fully appreciate and understand the necessity for appropriate security measures, but I don't feel that gives justification to turning residential areas into anti-air sites.

But hey, that's just my take on it.

[Mikal]

I would hope that a situation like that wouldn't even have to be contemplated due to the increased airport security, but if a plane did end up hi-jacked and was heading for the Olympic Stadium with five minutes to impact, I would alert the spectators and all present within to evacuate as quickly as possible. I know it doesn't sound like much of an effective and life saving method, but I would still go with it over the use of missle defense systems.

I fully appreciate and understand the necessity for appropriate security measures, but I don't feel that gives justification to turning residential areas into anti-air sites.

But hey, that's just my take on it.

Well it wasnt prevented at 9/11, the missiles are a good thing and plus, who would fly a plane towards something thats supposed to shoot planes down?
The missiles would blow anything up way before hand.

[Gandalf]

Let's talk worst case scenario and find a practical solution.

You see an airplane headed straight into the London Olympics and / or the World Trade Center, which will crash in 5 minutes. What will you do to avoid thousands of deaths?

Set the roof of that stadium on fire so they think someone beat them and fly on.

[Alsatian]

Set the roof of that stadium on fire so they think someone beat them and fly on.

I'd go with this actually! 

Well it wasnt prevented at 9/11, the missiles are a good thing and plus, who would fly a plane towards something thats supposed to shoot planes down?

Well if they're planning to crash a plane into a stadium, I doubt the risk of being shot down by a missle is of major concern to them - in their eyes, they're going to die anyway.

The missiles would blow anything up way before hand.

The missles are short range and if they did bring down the plane, the aftermath damage from them wreckage could be catastrophic to residential areas, industrial areas, you name it.

[JDC]

@Gandalf:
Clever method, but any terrorist who underwent explosive training could tell easily that the stadium hasn't been compromised if the structure is intact and people aren't running from the scene as if Satan himself did a half-time show. Then again, any dumb idiot who signs up for such terrorist duty would probably fly the plane in anyway, just to ensure the target is decimated.

@Mikal/Alsatian:
I highly doubt five minutes would be enough time to save more lives by firing a missile at an oncoming rogue plane as opposed to evacuating a 100-story skyscraper or a 20,000+ seat stadium.

[Ted]

Apparently the spire which would've taken the tower when finished to the symbolic 1776ft, has been scrapped due to belief it would be hard to maintain. There is now speculation that in place of the spire there would be an antenna apparently easier to maintain as they can  be removed. The problem with antenna's are that they are not counted towards the overall height of a building, it's something to do with them not being architecturally a part of the building. There'll be a lot of people upset.

[Mikal]

@Gandalf:
Clever method, but any terrorist who underwent explosive training could tell easily that the stadium hasn't been compromised if the structure is intact and people aren't running from the scene as if Satan himself did a half-time show. Then again, any dumb idiot who signs up for such terrorist duty would probably fly the plane in anyway, just to ensure the target is decimated.

@Mikal/Alsatian:
I highly doubt five minutes would be enough time to save more lives by firing a missile at an oncoming rogue plane as opposed to evacuating a 100-story skyscraper or a 20,000+ seat stadium.

By blowing the plane up you kill the passengers and create a high risk of people being crushed or blown up by calling parts so I guess your right.

[Emre]

Withdrawing my statement, misread something. The new WTC is taller by about 200 metres  :poke: