President Obama supports gay / same-sex marriage

[Pandalink]

he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake.

Religion as a whole is a mistake, a cultural error on our part as a race.
Oh damn, see what I did there.

Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!

Church staff all over the world are molesting small children. Religion is evil, wicked and bad.
Oh.

If it was up to me i would:

Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.

You know, if I was in charge, I can't say I'd even give religious people a chance to fix themselves. I'd probably just skip to step 3 and have them all shot.
Hm.

End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.

And in my situation we'd be rid of religion, and be a more pure planet.
Oh look, I did it again.

I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry 

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tl;dr In that post:

uneducated and ignorant redneck

Gender, race, impairment all relate to what a person is, whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does.

No. Gender, race and sexuality are all things that people are.

a perversion of everything we once knew and supported

Much like those pesky women's rights!
Oh, and freeing the slaves. What a perversion of our age-old values!

And this guy is an admin. Eh, alright then..

But seriously, I don't think they'd reject blood from someone if they didn't state their sexual preference.

Indeed. You can merely fail to point out that you're not straight and you can donate blood.

Randomly, did you know that if a girl sleeps with a guy who has ever been with another guy, she also can't give blood. For 12 months.
Oh NHS, you so crazy.

[Jack Rosso]

I compleatly understand his decision.

In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)

Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!

FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!

Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!

If it was up to me i would:

Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.

Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.

Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.


End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.

Note:

I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry 

My friend, you are a f**king idiot.

Note from xcasio: please try to keep the discussion constructive!

[Gimli]

It goes against the natural (as stated by Plato, Aristotle, etc), against all moral laws, and is frankly a perversion of everything we once knew and supported. It also will only serve to corrupt the youth.

It's called progress.

Gender, race, impairment all relate to what a person is, whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does.

If you are attracted to the same sex, you can't really change that. Similarly, you can't change your gender or race (not 100% anyway). Therefore it's not something you do.


Homosexuality is a perversion that corrupts youth..? You're starting to sound like the Westboro Baptist Church..

[JDC]

Anytime, anywhere, I'd say two words: Fuck Westboro.

That aside, I frankly would not care anymore if they legalize same-sex marriage or not, as long as it does not become the staple or replace man-woman marriage, since the natural order for creating a family and reproduction includes a man and woman. You can still have same-sex relationships and marriage, but that doesn't mean they should replace heterosexual relationships.

Also, provided that homosexuals become content once they attain the same civil rights as heterosexuals everywhere, and do not lobby for further "laws" or "rights" for the sake of "turning the tables".

But for those who are speaking of "progress" in the United States and other such nations... what would you say if some people tried to lobby for the right to fuck animals (i.e: sheep, goat, cow, etc) because "it's their sexual preference and they were born that way"?

[Gimli]

But for those who are speaking of "progress" in the United States and other such nations... what would you say if some people tried to lobby for the right to f**k animals (i.e: sheep, goat, cow, etc) because "it's their sexual preference and they were born that way"?

Sex with sheep is not consensual, nor is it a sexual preference (maybe in Wales )

[Nathan]

It's called progress.

Not all progress is positive progress.

If you are attracted to the same sex, you can't really change that. Similarly, you can't change your gender or race (not 100% anyway). Therefore it's not something you do.

Attraction to something can change. For example, attraction to drugs can change via rehab, though I don't suggest the same idea that the guy above said, anything can be changed.

No. Gender, race and sexuality are all things that people are.
Much like those pesky women's rights!
Oh, and freeing the slaves. What a perversion of our age-old values!

Sexuality refers to the way a person thinks. Race, gender is what a person is and CANNOT change. Thus, a person's views on what he/she is attracted to can be changed. Not easily, but over time.

And this guy is an admin. Eh, alright then..

My administration work is separate from my personal beliefs. My work is NOT based on my beliefs, but the beliefs and the Vision imposed by the owners and administration.

[Gimli]

Attraction to something can change.

So your attraction to women can change?

[Pandalink]

Based on your theory, Nathan, everyone is actually bisexual on a sliding scale. Are you also bisexual?

Sexuality refers to the way a person thinks. Race, gender is what a person is and CANNOT change. Thus, a person's views on what he/she is attracted to can be changed. Not easily, but over time.

If a black man had medical operations to make his skin white, would he become a white man?

[Nathan]

So your attraction to women can change?

In theory, yes. The fact of the matter remains that we know, and say that homosexuality is wrong. If it wasn't wrong, we wouldn't have to impose any laws, but at the end of the day, it's not going to happen.
Post Merge: May 20, 2012, 03:38:22 am

If a black man had medical operations to make his skin white, would he become a white man?

And you can do the same to have a sex change. But in reality, one still remains an black because his DNA still proves him to be in reality black.

[Pandalink]

we know, and say that homosexuality is wrong.

And I "know" that people who type in arial on the forum are wrong and shouldn't be doing it.

Do you see what I did there?

[Nathan]

And I "know" that people who type in arial on the forum are wrong and shouldn't be doing it.

Do you see what I did there?

You're comparing two different ideas. Don't derail the topic.

[Pandalink]

And you can do the same to have a sex change. But in reality, one still remains an black because his DNA still proves him to be in reality black.[/font]

But if a black man cannot change his actual race, despite being able to change his skin colour through a medical procedure, why would a gay man be able to change his sexuality through a medical procedure?

You're comparing two different ideas. Don't derail the topic.

Why? How is sexuality being inherently "wrong" any different to arial users (for example) being also inherently "wrong".

[Nathan]

But if a black man cannot change his actual race, despite being able to change his skin colour through a medical procedure, why would a gay man be able to change his sexuality through a medical procedure?

Simple, a gay person cannot give birth to more gay kids via NORMAL intercourse to pursue to sole purpose of reproduction, right? Thus, this means that it IS a choice.

Why? How is sexuality being inherently "wrong" any different to arial users being also inherently "wrong".

Again, two different ideas. Sex was made for both pleasure and reproduction. If the normal (which therefore is right) way with a man and a woman results to conception, wouldn't it be normal for a man and a man to cause conception or woman and a woman? Therefore, it is simply unnatural and is therefore chosen by CHOICE to become gay.

[Pandalink]

Simple, a gay person cannot give birth to more gay kids via NORMAL intercourse to pursue to sole purpose of reproduction, right? Thus, this means that it IS a choice.

I don't even see how I can refute that clearly since even a child could see what a failure of logic that is.

Sex was made for both pleasure and reproduction.

That's pretty poorly phrased, if I'm honest.

If the normal (which therefore is right)

You can't just say something is "right" because it's "normal". They're both equally ambiguous terms.
I could say that right-handed people are "normal" and that left-handed people were "abnormal", and given a certain definition of the word "normal" in that context there would be statistical evidence to support my argument in that case.
Your use of the word is ambiguous, and thus your point is made irrelevant.

Therefore, it is simply unnatural and is therefore chosen by CHOICE to become gay.

Why do non-sentient animals choose to be gay?

[Nathan]

Why do non-sentient animals choose to be gay?

There is always a unique kind. But not all uniqueness is useful. As far as we know, sex in most animals is only for reproduction.