President Obama supports gay / same-sex marriage

[Jubin]

Yeah why not, make it 5 days if you used the tongue.

You can't possibly mix a kiss on the street with having a gangbang at the park, or walking around wiggling with your 'pride' without your pents on.. First one is love, second one is mental illness.

Where have you seen a gangbang at the park? Also is it ok for straights to gangbang? Why did I give that example was that kissing your girlfriend is also expressing your sexuality, showing that you are straight.

[Cofiliano]

Where have you seen a gangbang at the park? Also is it ok for straights to gangbang? Why did I give that example was that kissing your girlfriend is also expressing your sexuality, showing that you are straight.

You're just using those parts of my quotes that feeds your argument, you obviously took the 'gangbang' part, and avoided the 'wiggling with your pride'.

Also, even having a T-shirt 'Female Body Investigatior' is expressing your sexuality, but you can't  compare its acceptance by society, with having a parade of naked people, wiggling their 'pride' without their pents off, like Abe said.

Don't know did you intenionaly tried missreading my reply, or not, but in any case you did it.

[Alsatian]

I don't see what the problem with pride parades are, but then again, I come from the country with one of the worlds largest so.

I don't have a problem with homosexuals what so ever, but the parades take it one step too far for me. You don't see straight people parading about celebrating their heterosexuality.

[Dutchy]

I don't have a problem with homosexuals what so ever, but the parades take it one step too far for me. You don't see straight people parading about celebrating their heterosexuality.

Yes but straight people aren't considered a group that was treated as box sacks throughout history.

[Jubin]

Also, even having a T-shirt 'Female Body Investigatior' is expressing your sexuality, but you can't  compare its acceptance by society, with having a parade of naked people, wiggling their 'pride' without their pents off, like Abe said.

Don't know did you intenionaly tried missreading my reply, or not, but in any case you did it.

On a serious note, I'm against sexual expressing in public, everyone should stick their sexual life at their house, hotel, or what ever.  Be what ever you want to be, its your choice, but you dont need to spam my everyday with your sexual orientation, I get it.

First thing, so you have freedom parades in your local area nearly everyday? 

Also yes I did intentionally ignored the wiggling part because that was not the initial issue I was pressing. I was just simply stating that according to your initial post you do not like if people straight or gay show their sexual preferences in public, which also includes farewell kisses ( with more infatuation than needed) and your later Female Body Investigation example as well. Although as you later told, you only have problems with the public actions that might break the societies moral barrier, like gangbang in a park or parading around mostly naked. I do agree with you as I do not like those freedom parades myself, for the same reasons that Abe already said. But as you know most gays do not go to these events or not like that at all.

Here's a question as you would have nothing against straight couple kissing in public for farewell. Do you have anything against gay couple doing the same? 

[SafetyMoose]

Here's a question as you would have nothing against straight couple kissing in public for farewell. Do you have anything against gay couple doing the same?

[Gandalf]

I don't have a problem with homosexuals what so ever, but the parades take it one step too far for me. You don't see straight people parading about celebrating their heterosexuality.

Ever seen carnaval in Rio de Janeiro ?

[Pandalink]

Pride parades are wrong, and do nothing to help any of the genuine issues faced by the LGB community.

[SafetyMoose]

Pride parades are wrong, and do nothing to help any of the genuine issues faced by the LGB community.

The Pride parade in Toronto is for celebrating the freedoms our nation allows and advertising the world that we support change. Its not really supposed to be a conference to explain the deep issues since frankly we are past that stage here.

[JDC]

The problem is that gay pride parades are more of "I'm naked and gay day", "Watch me wiggle my pride around day", and "Two fat hairy men kissing in public day" rather than a decent celebration of gay rights.

You definitely don't see straight people parading in orgies down the road because they're straight and capable of natural sex.

Supporting your rights is definitely different from waving them in the faces of everyone else.

[Aksel]

The problem is that gay pride parades are more of "I'm naked and gay day", "Watch me wiggle my pride around day", and "Two fat hairy men kissing in public day" rather than a decent celebration of gay rights.

You definitely don't see straight people parading in orgies down the road because they're straight and capable of natural sex.

Supporting your rights is definitely different from waving them in the faces of everyone else.

Seems like you have a clear, conservative view on the topic too, not only on the gaming community. Anyhow, I don't see a problem with gay parades. The only people that think this is nasty or creepy, is the people that are afraid of being dragged into something they don't want, a.k.a, people that has fears of everything that's unusual.

[JDC]

I would rather identify myself as Neutral on most topics (outside Argonath) than Conservative, as I am also open to the times changing. Except that I am not really a fan of believing in everything that is considered "new". For instance, I am okay with Homosexuality, just not with the idea of "Women" competing in Ms. Universe and "Pride" parades. Liberalism does not mean accepting the views of everyone around you, either.

Times are changing, but there are some things that should not be changed, just as you can discover new branches of Math and new mathematical formulas, but not change the fact that 1+1=2. Not literal, but a reference to some other topics.

[Cofiliano]

First thing, so you have freedom parades in your local area nearly everyday?

Not yet, but its going that way, and 90 percent of the population doesn't like it. If you go against the will of the ultimate majority of a society, that's not only against democratic values that you love so much, but its also against your liberal ideology, cause then the will of  minority goes over the will of majority, which makes people feel like living under dictatorship, where small minorities have bigger power and rights, then the majority. No one should deny any rights that goes to minority groups, but forcing those rights beyond freedom is violating someone elses right, which is never good, specially if its directed toward the majority. There's also a question of moral and tradition inside that society that shouldn't be played with.
Its one thing to demand your rights that you want to achive, but its another doing it by constant hitting the wall with your head.

Also yes I did intentionally ignored the wiggling part because that was not the initial issue I was pressing. I was just simply stating that according to your initial post you do not like if people straight or gay show their sexual preferences in public, which also includes farewell kisses ( with more infatuation than needed) and your later Female Body Investigation example as well. Although as you later told, you only have problems with the public actions that might break the societies moral barrier, like gangbang in a park or parading around mostly naked. I do agree with you as I do not like those freedom parades myself, for the same reasons that Abe already said. But as you know most gays do not go to these events or not like that at all.

Exactly, we agree on this, like I said above, in Serbia for example, people feel like someone from abroad is forcing those parades that are not even vistied by real lgbt people, but more as one of many attacks on our way of thinking, moral, and tradition, to break the last national spirit that we posses in ourselfs.

We had that example when a grandfather was walking with his 8 year old grandchild, and one of those parades were happening, in which that kid saw people completly naked, kissing and touching each other. Knowing that most of the people in his country doesn't approve of such, the grandfather felt like he was a stranger in his own country, or 2nd line citizen.

And the question is did those help the minority of lgbt people, to get bigger rights and less hate toward them together with the acceptance of the society? No it just made things worst, before that you could have said that you're a gay person, and no one would even care, and after it, you would be a target, in which people wouldn't see someone who has different sexuality, but an enemy who's against everything that our culture, tradition and religion, and moral values represents.

Here's a question as you would have nothing against straight couple kissing in public for farewell. Do you have anything against gay couple doing the same?

I saw it a few times, and I was grossed since I can't imagine kisisng another man, so cause of my sexuality in me I was grossed, but I didn't do anything to confront them, attack them, or what ever, I just kept on walking, cause I dont really care who's kissing who, as long as they don't disturb me and my fellow ones.

[SafetyMoose]

People keep bringing up situations where people are running around naked and kissing and touching each other at pride parades... I have never witnessed this at all, I mean sure there are people dressed with very little clothing but going as far as people seem to describe it as is either false or your country allows some pretty strange stuff....

[Squeak]

Let's all get together and have a straight pride parade and fuck hookers in the street while beating my wife.