Norway gets rid of it's official religion

[Pandalink]

His views are good.

Indeed.

The guy who shot and killed a large group of predominantly norwegian teenagers has good views?

His actions were misguided and wrong, but his cause was good.

Western Europe is once again walking towards Nazism.

It may be the only way.

[AnnaR]

Really? How can nazism/racism or whatever you call that idelogy, be good?

[Dolfagr]

His deeds and his psychological reasons for doing it have no straight connection to his views.
The killings that he performed were terrible. But his views on Islamisation and so on are true.

Why are you even using the hammer and sickle symbol then? Communism supports multiculturalism.

Indeed.
It may be the only way.

The only way for?

[Salmonella]

Western Europe is once again walking towards Nazism.

National socialism is dead and cannot possibly return from a realistic point of view. Don't see why you're implying that Western Europe would supposedly ''once again walk towards nazism''. First of all, an individual cannot represent Western Europe as a whole. Second, I don't really see why you're involving national socialism in here -at all-, but it's probably because some of the above might be considered extremistic, which you somehow link to nazism? Just because certain views have stuff in common, doesn't mean they're the same.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

Why are you even using the hammer and sickle symbol then? Communism supports multiculturalism.

Communism supports "a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production.".
It doesn't support a religion taking over an existing state.
Breivik points out that Islamisation will potentionally take down Norway, or even other European countries.

[Jubin]

National socialism is dead and cannot possibly return from a realistic point of view. Don't see why you're implying that Western Europe would supposedly ''once again walk towards nazism''.

Hmm, with this in mind - Dolfa, how probable it is that Golden Dawn would get greater power in Greece?

[nikos]

^I wouldn't mind having a little black kid of my own one day, go africa!

Man Im a big fan of ebony as well..dont mix me with something.
I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with the color/religion ,problem is in this large migrations.Id love to go on a tour trough say Asia or America(only south maybe L.A  ) but I would never stay there to live,because that's not my home,they are not my people and I would be second-class citizen
 for my whole life,regardless how much money you made you would still 2nd.
Excursions are good,meting new cultures and nation's.I ,myself,was a host to couple of Russians for the last 6-7-8 days,just ask Cofi we were guides one  of a kind 

[SafetyMoose]

Man Im a big fan of ebony as well..dont mix me with something.
I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with the color/religion ,problem is in this large migrations.Id love to go on a tour trough say Asia or America(only south maybe L.A  ) but I would never stay there to live,because that's not my home,they are not my people and I would be second-class citizen
 for my whole life,regardless how much money you made you would still 2nd.
Excursions are good,meting new cultures and nation's.I ,myself,was a host to couple of Russians for the last 6-7-8 days,just ask Cofi we were guides one  of a kind 

Unless of course you move to a country thats pretty much just a mixture of the rest of the world, then with your logic everyone is 2nd class? :P

[Cofiliano]

Unless of course you move to a country thats pretty much just a mixture of the rest of the world, then with your logic everyone is 2nd class? :P

Yes, but the rest of the world doesn't want to have a mixture of nation like USA and Canada.

[Dolfagr]

Hmm, with this in mind - Dolfa, how probable it is that Golden Dawn would get greater power in Greece?

The rise of Golden Dawn is idiotic and our ex governments are there to blame. Whilst they have offered a damn bad education and false media reports it's actually the youth who are pissed off at the old governments (Pasok - New Democracy) and voting for Golden Dawn. From age groups 18-34 Golden Dawn comes as second highest which can really tell a lot. At one point, in a press conference of their leader all the TV Reporters were asked to stand up and salute him to pay tribute, and those who refused were escorted out of the room by being pushed over. Their ideology says its nationalism and they are battling to survive what's left from Greece, but I doubt their justifying - stabbing immigrants or left wing members is reasonable to what countrymen should do. They have 21 parliamentary seats about now, even though some pre election gallops show they've fallen quite a bit I am sure it is eligible of arising to a greater percent in the next elections, they have a good propaganda and recruitment system.

[nikos]

like USA and Canada.

Bigest nations without true nationality.

[SafetyMoose]

Bigest nations without true nationality.

Yup, Canada has no true nationality... ( well you can consider 1st nations to be the original people of the country but thats a different issue) But look at us now, we allow for a mixture of the world in one place and we are known to be one of the most peaceful and accepting nations on the planet. I don't know about you, but I prefer peace and acceptance over war and discrimination any day, and the only way to achieve this is to become a global community not a world of segregation.

[JDC]

Speaking matter-of-factly, USA Citizens and Canadians are basically British, French, Native American, Spanish, Russian, and people from many other countries, who have a "new nationality" after a few centuries of mixed breeding. It's basically all Immigrant Country, except for the Native Americans; the only race who we can actually call pure-blooded Americans.

But that's beside the point. Norway, on the other hand, is historically Norweigian and European.

As much as I am not racist, I don't exactly support the blurring between all races as it removes a historically vital uniqueness from Humanity. Imagine if we bred all dogs so there'd be only one breed, it won't be as good.

[Aksel]

I guess you all expect me to reply, so.

As the non-religious person I am, I have no problem with this, and the changes that will be the result of this will not be that big. The only difference that we will hear of is that the state will no longer finance the church, and the state will no longer elect the bishops and other fancy titles.

I was kind of waiting for this, as I am supporting religious freedom and individual freedom to a certain point. This is a huge step in the right direction to comprehend with the mass-cultural society we are becoming. This has in no way been "pushed" on by other religions, but truth be told, religion and state has nothing to do with each other.
Post Merge: May 25, 2012, 05:45:21 pm

If the Scandinavian nations' flags were all based on the cross, then it indicates the presence of Christian elements in their history and heritage.

The recent move to drop having an "Official" religion is okay, as long as atheists or members of other religions will not lobby to have official renditions of culture / heritage amended by removing all Christian elements from it, such as the cross on the flag. While having a state religion is one thing, erasing traces of religion from society is something else.

For instance, the Philippines is a dominantly Roman Catholic religion, but neither the state or the church has tried to erase the fact that our ancestors in the pre-spanish era were pagans and muslims.

The cross in our flag is representing the old scandinavian union (Kalmar (?) Union).

[Cofiliano]

I was kind of waiting for this, as I am supporting religious freedom and individual freedom to a certain point. This is a huge step in the right direction

You mean left direction.


Akse, its normal that you by living in a multi-cultural society, accept this and you  even waited for this as you said, since you're a non-religious person, but the problem is if most Norwegian origin people back off from it like you, and most of the islamic immigrants don't back off from their religion (like they rearly do, which is something for respect), in 15-20 years you're gonna be living in a country that's mostly Islamistic.

I really wanna know how will you feel, if one day you realise that your own country, that's on the far north of Europe(away from the original muslim countries), become majority muslim country?

I'm not critisising or anything, Im just honestly wondering on your toughts about it.