We want some attention over here.

[SugarD]

I would love to see you get in the car as a passanger and start drive-bying without any cheats or mods.

Missions and cutscenes. In VC, you also have the taxi that takes you to failed mission start locations.

I don't know why you think drive-by'ing isn't possible in single-player. It's part of the game. You simply look to the side and shoot at the same time...

[stormeus]

Passenger driveby isn't even possible in single-player, let alone multiplayer. There is turret mode in some missions (Phnom Penh '86) though, so I don't see where you're getting that from.

[freestyle_Shadow]

So here is what I want to say: After the wallglitching shitstorm ( as I played a lot this time and I am able to say this out ), Crouch Shooting was used just by newbies, then I myself and other players, along with Administration Team told them not to do it, and that's how we solved it. Fast-Switching is even in single player IIRC, along with Jump Switch if I am not mistaken. However, the newly server limitations encourages new players to use Crouch Glitching in a Stubby combat. I have not seen any abuse of crouch glitching since the shitstorm, and I hope I will never see, but please, understand that Fast-Switching and Jump-Switching were gamefeatures, also features of 0.3z.

To Gandalf: I sincerelly never seen Administration Team abusing glitches for giving theirselves advantage. Crouch glitching should be removed as it is more than a glitch. It even confuses players, and makes them think it is a cheat, and this was said by a lot of new players. However, for Fast-Switching and Jump-Switching, I do not recall it being called as a 'cheat' by some new player, nor by Veterans or Regulars.

- Shadow.

[Gandalf]

To Gandalf: I sincerelly never seen Administration Team abusing glitches for giving theirselves advantage. Crouch glitching should be removed as it is more than a glitch. It even confuses players, and makes them think it is a cheat, and this was said by a lot of new players. However, for Fast-Switching and Jump-Switching, I do not recall it being called as a 'cheat' by some new player, nor by Veterans or Regulars.

- Shadow.

The current limitation started after members of the team were caught wallglitching.

[freestyle_Shadow]

Huh, you may be right, even if I did not see it with my eyes.

[Aragorn]

I will come on server you will show me this glitch...

As for glitches - we do not hunt to punish for using it... We do disallow it strictly if it is used to get an unfair advantage over other player...

While I'll check out the connections to server and solve some work IRL answer me please - can anyone use the glitch you are talking about or only a small group and they do keep the usage of glitch in secret?

[Ave]

While I'll check out the connections to server and solve some work IRL answer me please - can anyone use the glitch you are talking about or only a small group and they do keep the usage of glitch in secret?

Anyone can use.

[PulseEffect]

The thing is that veteran players will use these "glitches" against new players. New players then learn how to use them. The process goes on and on and on.

Argonath turns into a death match server when a criminal has guns and reaches his/her home and just starts killing cops who get there. While we're trying to type, someone gets headshotted. Next thing you know is that they've suicided.

Most VCPD Officers have a habit of using their weapons to stop suspects (Yes I admit I have it too). It proves how much deathmatching has happened in their eyes. They've insulted some of us against our pings just because they can't kil us.

[freestyle_Shadow]

The thing is that veteran players will use these "glitches" against new players. New players then learn how to use them. The process goes on and on and on.

Argonath turns into a death match server when a criminal has guns and reaches his/her home and just starts killing cops who get there. While we're trying to type, someone gets headshotted. Next thing you know is that they've suicided.

Most VCPD Officers have a habit of using their weapons to stop suspects (Yes I admit I have it too). It proves how much deathmatching has happened in their eyes. They've insulted some of us against our pings just because they can't kil us.

Duuuuudeeee. Wat?

What VCPD Officer do you see which shoots on sight without /c sur ? I personally opt for investigation whenever suspect surrenders, and I myself do not neglect any wish or opinion of the busted one. Do you see Marcus ? Legend ? Verz ? Stormeus? JDC ? aXXo ? Me ? opening
fire on sight? We tend to open fire just as a last chance for both him and us, you misunderstand it. I do not know neither understand how you interpretate those actions, neither from where all those lies come from.

What deathmatch? That's how it works you know? If they do not surrender, tell us a better way of stopping them instead of using weapons, should we throw puppies and toys at them? Actually, you are the only one who moans of being typekilled, it's afterall not our fault because you go inside and start typing...

'Veteran' players do not use glitches against new players. You misunderstand again, firing a weapon is not a glitch. And about fastswitching, the only advantage it could probably bring you is NOTHING. You just change a weapon faster, what advantage is this? Is not like you shoot and you turn into Ironman so no one can kill you, about jumpswitch, same thing, IT TAKES SKILL to know when and how to jump, and then someone comes and moan : "GUY B NO FALL Y ADMIN BAN PLZ IF NO I GO OFF SERVR".

Removing those two switches limits the whole server to stand in middle of road and spam m4, so shotguns will not be useful anymore. Ammunation sellings will go down ( Especially NPM and Ocean Beach ) and whole players will focus just on Spaz and M4.

This is both theory and reality, if you do not trust my words, go see yourself.

[Fuzzy168]

Removing those two switches limits the whole server to stand in middle of road and spam m4, so shotguns will not be useful anymore. Ammunation sellings will go down ( Especially NPM and Ocean Beach ) and whole players will focus just on Spaz and M4.

This is both theory and reality, if you do not trust my words, go see yourself.

Very true.. I've seen it for myself.   :m4: :sig:

[Kessu]

I will come on server you will show me this glitch...

As for glitches - we do not hunt to punish for using it... We do disallow it strictly if it is used to get an unfair advantage over other player...

While I'll check out the connections to server and solve some work IRL answer me please - can anyone use the glitch you are talking about or only a small group and they do keep the usage of glitch in secret?

Anyone can use the "glitch" and it is not a secret, majority of VCMP players know it and new players have very easy time to work on it.

[JDC]

Removing those two switches limits the whole server to stand in middle of road and spam m4, so shotguns will not be useful anymore. Ammunation sellings will go down ( Especially NPM and Ocean Beach ) and whole players will focus just on Spaz and M4.

This is both theory and reality, if you do not trust my words, go see yourself.

Years before these two switches you patronize so much were created, MTA:VC players had the skill to fight deathmatchers / hackers using normal weaponry and methods.

Your theory is invalid.

If someone will falsely claim that my comparison does not make sense as it is based on other servers, then remind yourself of which game MTA:VC and VC:MP will not run without...

[Rapture]

Years before these two switches you patronize so much were created, MTA:VC players had the skill to fight deathmatchers / hackers using normal weaponry and methods.

Your theory is invalid.

If someone will falsely claim that my comparison does not make sense as it is based on other servers, then remind yourself of which game MTA:VC and VC:MP will not run without...

As far as I know, using jumping as a technique is available on MTA:VC, and everyone who knows whats a spacebar will use it.
VC:MP doesn't even have that, you can't even jump with shotguns anymore.

[Aragorn]

I asked Gandalf about glitches you all are talking about...
I am shocked...

1. Switching the weapons is a key control s option and is NOT a glitch... Everyone can make the controls more comfortable for himself to get the better result of combat... It is the GTA:VC game option...

It is NOT a glitch...

2. Switching from running to jumping and back is NOT a glitch... All the same...

I just do not fucking understand the problem, mates... When I was at my first time on VC multiplayer server I was shocked that everyone is running too fast... Then I figured out the sprint button...

Fast (effective) switching the weapons and run style in combination gives the best fighting result... You should train more on that... If you would be on MTA:VC server long time ago you would be amazed of training club Rockstars clan gave to everyone who wanted to grow his combat skills...
There was everything...
1. Switching weapons and run style in combination
2. Shooting at the nades and molotovs to avoid the explosions and fire
3. Special training "Kill de haxor"

I am really shocked at SUCH problem...

Once again... These are NOT glitches... It are pure deathmatch (fighting) skills...

[freestyle_Shadow]

Then allow them, because, at this very momment, they are DISABLED by SCRIPT.


Finally, 13847925932658932659827589648923648923 years argue is over.