Mubarak sentenced to 25 years only! WTF??

[Gandalf]

You do not want to go back, and you know if you commit crimes, you will go back.

That does prevent from comitting crimes.

Or make you kill as many people as possible then getting killed yourself or commit suicide.
After all if you kill someone and are not having a problem with doing it again you are having huge mental problems.

[Huntsman]

Or make you kill as many people as possible then getting killed yourself or commit suicide.
After all if you kill someone and are not having a problem with doing it again you are having huge mental problems.

Killing someone is already being mentally sick, ofcourse, except the extraordinary situations.

[Gandalf]

Killing someone is already being mentally sick, ofcourse, except the extraordinary situations.

And in such extraordinary situations people would not object to prison giving a limited quality of life and the chance to return to a normal life in society.

[Huntsman]

By extraordinary situations i meant cops, military and self defense

[Gandalf]

By extraordinary situations i meant cops, military and self defense

The last one.

[SafetyMoose]

And in such extraordinary situations people would not object to prison giving a limited quality of life and the chance to return to a normal life in society.

if you have a criminal record, even if self defence, its incredibly hard to get a job. Self Defence is not a crime anyways.

[Gandalf]

if you have a criminal record, even if self defence, its incredibly hard to get a job. Self Defence is not a crime anyways.

And why are there no privacy laws who forbid that employers can check such records ?

[Exterminator]

And why are there no privacy laws who forbid that employers can check such records ?

Cause the employers are rich.

[SafetyMoose]

And why are there no privacy laws who forbid that employers can check such records ?

Because an employer has the right to demand any record or drug test before hiring someone. Its their business, they can run and hire the people they want. Privacy laws regarding criminal records only apply when someone tries to get your record without your permission. You need to give an employer the record before they hire you. I worked in the records department doing background checks at my local police station when I first started and its a very secure system when it comes to privacy, however you need to willingly provide the required information before your hired at almost any job, unless your being paid under the table... but still, no one is going to take the risk of hiring someone who went to jail.

[EliteTerm]

Mubarak's slipping away soon, the doctors used the defibrillator on him twice earlier this week.

[Gandalf]

Because an employer has the right to demand any record or drug test before hiring someone. Its their business, they can run and hire the people they want. Privacy laws regarding criminal records only apply when someone tries to get your record without your permission. You need to give an employer the record before they hire you. I worked in the records department doing background checks at my local police station when I first started and its a very secure system when it comes to privacy, however you need to willingly provide the required information before your hired at almost any job, unless your being paid under the table... but still, no one is going to take the risk of hiring someone who went to jail.

Which makes it exactly why employers should be disallowed to do such checks.
Having a criminal record should not exclude one from society, and any employer who does so should be sued for discrimination.

[JDC]

Which makes it exactly why employers should be disallowed to do such checks.
Having a criminal record should not exclude one from society, and any employer who does so should be sued for discrimination.

What if the applicant has a record of always being brought back to prison (for offenses such as, let's say, rape) shortly after being set free, and was only set free a short while back?

Not that I'm against your post (as I share a similar view on that issue), but I like to try and look at problems from alternate angles.

[Gandalf]

What if the applicant has a record of always being brought back to prison (for offenses such as, let's say, rape) shortly after being set free, and was only set free a short while back?

Not that I'm against your post (as I share a similar view on that issue), but I like to try and look at problems from alternate angles.

Would you expect such a person to be able to successfully apply for a job ?

[JDC]

Would you expect such a person to be able to successfully apply for a job ?

What about those individuals who experience periods of "normalcy" between bouts of psychological illness?

Checking records should not be done for discriminatory purposes, but rather, as security measures.

[Gandalf]

What about those individuals who experience periods of "normalcy" between bouts of psychological illness?

Checking records should not be done for discriminatory purposes, but rather, as security measures.

That would be a medical record, not a jail record.