Teenage Atheist Union

[Gandalf]

an old rusty "zastava" car (Serbian car brand, compleatly shitty car),

Many people would already turn religious having to enter such a car.

[Reece]

That a near death experience? For real? My classmate had the same thing. Really, i know people die from it, but it can be solved in a matter of seconds.

Read what I posted again. I STOPPED BREATHING. I didn't just have a normal asthma attack, I have those all the time. And yes, people do die from it, my friend would be one of those included.

[Void]

What is known is that it takes an advanced knowledge to rationally not believe in suernatural beings, contrary to what is usually claimed.
And that excludes the 'don not give a f**k' persons who are simply not considering the matter.

I believe we can all agree that life is a mosaic(whether good or bad) that sometimes prevents us to step back and view the whole picture in an analyst-way.
We live a fast paced mixed of "facts" so we don't have much time to indulge ourselves into something abstract as religion. This means we will rather take something as it is and go with it. "Leave it for a higher being to decide" or such.

Is this a good subject for this topic? I believe the thread derailed to the "Religion" part of "Politics and Religion". Good times.

[JDC]

If you are going to host intellectual discussion about the current situation of humanity, politics and religion are unavoidable topics.

[Void]

If you are going to host intellectual discussion about the current situation of humanity, politics and religion are unavoidable topics.

Intellectual discussions don't go well with the term politics or religion, JDC.

[Leon.]

What near death experience? You ran out of hamburgers? COMON, i hate LIARS da MOST on this world!

(Edit to remove flaming) : Never make such assumtions without knowing what you talk about.

[SafetyMoose]

What near death experience? You ran out of hamburgers? COMON, i hate LIARS da MOST on this world!

>implying you know anything about what happens in the lives of people you have never met

Man, obviously your parents didn't beat as much respect in to you as you say 

[Y2JFaN]

aleksander you sound silly there. Using a reference to 'hamburgers' - probably because the flag beside his name is the US flag? How silly.

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

aleksander you sound silly there. Using a reference to 'hamburgers' - probably because the flag beside his name is the US flag? How silly.

Whell, considering the obisety in the USA, the first thing that popped into my mind is "hamburger". Besides it is only a joke... You people take everything too seriously.

>implying you know anything about what happens in the lives of people you have never met

Man, obviously your parents didn't beat as much respect in to you as you say 

I do not know how does my post about lying have to do anything with respect  :?: :?: :?:  :trust:

[JDC]

Intellectual discussions don't go well with the term politics or religion, JDC.

I never said they go well hand in hand. It's just that they are inevitable at one point or another, whether we like it or not.

Unless you live your lives out in some kind of box which is completely isolated from the outside world. But even that may not be a perfect way to avoid those topics.

[Void]

Unless you live your lives out in some kind of box which is completely isolated from the outside world. But even that may not be a perfect way to avoid those topics.

Stop for a moment and think "outside" of your head. Imagine yourself detaching from your mind/thoughts. You now have a perspective on your idle body which sits at the PC desk. You are free to wander around now as a "no-matter". Can you avoid these topics? 
There, I created a perfectly absurd example fitting your description.

Of course we're not able to evade these subjects in our every day conversations but that still throws out the fact that they are intelligent.
Especially the religion ones.

[JDC]

Especially the religion ones.

The precursor to the concept of religion was the concept of why. Why did we find ourselves in a certain situation? In case of the example, the question would be "How and why did I get into this box" or "How and why am I a no-matter"?

It may not always be such, but the probability exists that the concept of why will somehow lead to the concept of studying the origins, and perhaps to religion.

[memolito]

This Is Interesting, But There Comes A Point When You're All Alone, No One To Talk To.. So You Go To God. Catholic. God. The Other Religions In My Opinion Are BootLeg Copies. Sorry If I Offended Anyone But It's True.

[JDC]

This Is Interesting, But There Comes A Point When You're All Alone, No One To Talk To.. So You Go To God. Catholic. God. The Other Religions In My Opinion Are BootLeg Copies. Sorry If I Offended Anyone But It's True.

Everyone who is devoted to a certain religion is bound to be convinced at some point that their religion is the only true one, with the others all being false.

This is one of the factors that has contributed to the backwardness of religion as we know it today, rather than the concept being used as a tool in the search of answers.

[Squeak]

This Is Interesting, But There Comes A Point When You're All Alone, No One To Talk To.. So You Go To God. Catholic. God. The Other Religions In My Opinion Are BootLeg Copies. Sorry If I Offended Anyone But It's True.

Your Religion Is A Bootleg Copy Of Judaism.
See? It's just as absurd and untrue when I say it, so don't offend other people's beliefs when you have no knowledge of your own.


Someone answer me this: how can something exist if there is nothing around to experience and perceive it?