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Internet raise over $300,000 for bus monitor bully victim

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Reply #15 on: June 22, 2012, 10:23:48 pm
I hope your not trying to imply violence is going to solve the problem of violence  :rofl:
So if someone would bully your grandmother until the point where she would cry and is seriously upset, you would not act with your fists but with your mouth?



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Reply #16 on: June 22, 2012, 10:31:05 pm
So if someone would bully your grandmother until the point where she would cry and is seriously upset, you would not act with your fists but with your mouth?

They would get arrested for elder abuse so I would have no need to fight them. They would go to jail for it. Fighting them would just get me charged as well and probably fired from my job.



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Reply #17 on: June 22, 2012, 10:33:30 pm
They would get arrested for elder abuse so I would have no need to fight them. They would go to jail for it. Fighting them would just get me charged as well and probably fired from my job.
The kids aren't taken into custody, they are free.



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Reply #18 on: June 22, 2012, 10:51:37 pm
The kids aren't taken into custody, they are free.

Because this happened in the US, which as one of the stupidest legal systems ever.



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Reply #19 on: June 22, 2012, 11:11:13 pm
So if someone would bully your grandmother until the point where she would cry and is seriously upset, you would not act with your fists but with your mouth?

Didn't you learn any moral at school? You, that lives in an ex- socialistic state should know that there are authorities to take care of people like this.



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Reply #20 on: June 22, 2012, 11:15:32 pm
Didn't you learn any moral at school? You, that lives in an ex- socialistic state should know that there are authorities to take care of people like this.
It doesn't really matter where I live.
It is me as a person.
If he would still be free, I wouldn't ignore him.



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Reply #21 on: June 23, 2012, 03:51:21 pm
All those that would rip throats, kick in the nuts, punch in the face multiple times and so on are the same as these children in the video.
She simply stood in a wrong guard and got caught up. Why did she try to communicate with them? She had the perfect advantage at the beginning of the video. She ignored them.
Another question, why didn't she switch seats? Verbal abuse happened to every one of us once or more. At one instant, she even took out a knife or another sharp object is it?

I understand the good will of people to donate but getting such sum for being verbally abused is ridiculous. They should have donated to a better cause like ill/sick or homeless children. I bet this is not the first time someone mocked her.

I was in the capital about a week ago. Since I'm from Dalmatia(far south of Croatia) and that's Zagorje(north), my accent was really standing out and people were laughing at me as soon as I walked into a store.
Peers were teasing me in the tramway, calling me names like "stupid undeveloped Dalmatian" and a redneck. I just smiled.

I could sure use some cash compensation, doesn't even need to be half a million of dollars.

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Reply #22 on: June 23, 2012, 04:08:30 pm
At least the donators show a sign of humanity. As for the situation here, rarely anything like this happens on public bus, unless the bus goes through the small china-town in the center of Athens or other arias which are uncontrolled by the Police.. and anyways whenever we see someone bullying some other kid or oldie, we gather for a surprise to the bully ;).. After that, he'll think much before doing such a thing again at least!

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Reply #23 on: June 23, 2012, 08:36:17 pm
So if someone would bully your grandmother until the point where she would cry and is seriously upset, you would not act with your fists but with your mouth?

You do understand they're children right? F**king children. You seriously think the right thing to do is beat the shit out of them? They're young and what you saw in that video is them trying to impress one and other.

Someone older, I could understand that you might want to and I most likely would as well, but even then it doesn't make it right. Trying to solve violence with violence never gets anyone anywhere.



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Reply #24 on: June 23, 2012, 08:38:34 pm
You do understand they're children right? F**king children. You seriously think the right thing to do is beat the shit out of them? They're young and what you saw in that video is them trying to impress one and other.

Someone older, I could understand that you might want to and I most likely would as well, but even then it doesn't make it right. Trying to solve violence with violence never gets anyone anywhere.
They're sick children in that case.
I have seen many cases of boys trying to act tough and impress their friends, but this just crosses the line by far.
Making someone cry is not just impressing but being seriously f*cked up in the head.



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Reply #25 on: June 23, 2012, 08:51:52 pm
They're sick children in that case.
I have seen many cases of boys trying to act tough and impress their friends, but this just crosses the line by far.
Making someone cry is not just impressing but being seriously f*cked up in the head.

Of course, it's horrible. However, what will be achieved by kicking the shit out of them? Absolutely nothing. If anything, it's going to make them even nastier. The parenting and school need to be looked at, as clearly something has gone wrong down the line for those kids to believe that the way they acted was appropriate.

Show them the errors of their way and correct it. Counteract with violence, and give way for more situations like this to occur.

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Reply #26 on: June 23, 2012, 08:54:30 pm
Of course, it's horrible. However, what will be achieved by kicking the shit out of them? Absolutely nothing. If anything, it's going to make them even nastier. The parenting and school need to be looked at, as clearly something has gone wrong down the line for those kids to believe that the way they acted was appropriate.

Show them the errors of their way and correct it. Counteract with violence, and give way for more situations like this to occur.
Like I said earlier in the topic, words don't matter with modern day children anymore.
They say yes but they do no.
I now do admit that kicking them until near death is not the best way, but what is?

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Reply #27 on: June 23, 2012, 09:31:24 pm
I now do admit that kicking them until near death is not the best way, but what is?

The problem is that when you look at the video, you realise that these kids have been raised by kids themselves. The parents obviously haven't taught them basic manners or the principle of respect.

In school you get bullying and nasty remarks, but I've never seen anything quite like this.

If any positive change is to be made, the parents also have to be educated in bringing up their children also. There's no point what so ever in giving them a little telling off and a slap on the wrist, and then sending them straight back into an environment where this kind of behaviour is seemingly acceptable.



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Reply #28 on: June 23, 2012, 09:35:12 pm


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Reply #29 on: June 23, 2012, 10:18:59 pm

I now do admit that kicking them until near death is not the best way, but what is?


 A Juvenile Detention Facility.



 


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