Continuation.

[Maxy]

First of all, I know this is not a complaint section, even though my questions may express otherwise.Before some ignorant person dismisses this as "shitting on the community" without reading, actually take the time to read and consider this valid critisicm. I am also sure about the fact that there is a polite answer to all my questions as well as I am aware of the fact that many people would like to have asked the same questions before. My questions are merely directed to the moderators/administrators/managers and/or higher.




Question one : Is it their professional buttkissing that gives you such a warm feeling or what else is it that you just cannot punish people equally ?

I'll show you an example so it will be easier to comprehed, this one will be an ingame scenario.

Person1, who has been in this server for an eternity who was administrator, who dedicated himself to this community has now become a little loose and mean but still is nice.
Person2 is the typical asskisser towards all administrators and hasn't been here for any longer than P1. Person2 is the sort of guy who seeks for fame in this community, who seeks for attention.
P1 : Dude you annoy me, shut the hell up
*P1 has been banned for flaming other community members

P2 : Lol stfu bad girl rofl hehe
Admin : LOL man, haha!

Tell me, how can this not reflect to us as some moral kind of thing ? The entire administration-team has told me that it doesn't matter about who you are, equal consequences apply for everyone. Seconds after that being said, I see one being banned for a reason, and another veterinary player warned only.




Question two : Do you think that it is polite to introduce moderators / administrators to the team who are actually dedicated to a family ?

Nowadays, I see weird people accepted into the team that are just humorous or belong to a group, which gives his / her goons alot more abilities and advantages.




Question three : Whenever a player has been banned once, does he not lose on value for you?

It is this problem that I noticed and started to feel that admins think if a player has been banned before, they simply use more drastic consequences as they would do for others. You cannot tell me that there is no difference.




Question four : Why does the administratve personnel -when a rulebreaking thing has been committed- get away with a weaker punishment than others?

Is it their ranking or what makes them feel so secured ? I see some of them performing degenerated things that we would be banished for while they can laugh their asses off and have a good joke with it.




Question five : Why can you not properly defend yourself in unban requests after incorrect bans?

There are multiple administrative people that may have banned for false issues or banned for complete incorrect things. Why do you still try to defend yourself ? Why do you not admit defeat about it? We would respect you much more if you would confess it rather than continue a dispute that leads to you having the moral upper hand and them to be denied.




Argonath RPG isn't a world of it's own, or atleast is not ANYMORE, it's the world of the developers who won't put any restrictions on roleplay, which creates total chaos for players, as they can do whatever they like. All that will have a terrifying conclusion. People are bored, they cannot RP with others as everyone can do whatever they want. When there're no restrictions (even if only tiny ones) I cannot see what do the developers want to accomplish with the server, I don't understand the usage of admins then either, there's no goal to accomplish nor nowhere to move on, to develop. Everyone says that there are no restrictions in RP (Sure, RP requires the ability of improvising and fantasy) but that is just what causes less RP to occur. RPG stands for Roleplaying Game, but nowadays I think that the owners confused it with  I don't know ... Soviet Russia?  Corrupt and deluded adminstrators are allowed to remain as a member of the administration team, while hardworking and proper administrators get kicked from the administration team for their views on certain subjects. But there are also some other things to be concerned about.

Quote from: Gandalf

    The founders were upset with the community they left because of how people treated each other, and how there was a lack of recognition from the administration for the efforts of new players and those who were not in the favour of leaders.

The Argonath community was founded due to poor administration, discrimination, and a lack of equality in the previous community that the founders played on. Nowadays, these exact qualities can be found within the community of Argonath. People are forced to lie in unban requests to get unbanned, just because they have to be in favor of the owner's point of view, and are not allowed to have their own opinion.

Quote from: Gandalf

    Argonath strives to keep rules simple and understandable. Our community was created as free RP, based on imagination and creativity. We will not ever support it changing in to a jungle of rules that are impossible to understand, follow and adhere to. Our rules will remain the minimal needed to stop players who wish to disturb the fun in playing from doing so, not more and not less.

Ever since some rules became incomprehensible, they have been twisted, until random new rules were implemented and either approved or disapproved by any of the developers, which caused, causes and will keep causing chaos.

Quote from: Gandalf

    Promotion of usage of alcohol, drugs and other stimulating substances. We respect the freedom of choice, however people should be respecting that others who have different beliefs and choices have this right as well.

The promotion of alchohol and smoking is, according to the vision of Argonath, disallowed in the community, despite that point in the vision, it is still being broadcasted widely amongst anyone's computer monitor while taking a look in the ''Welcome'' section of this community - a section which should portray the contrary, for it is the first thing new players see when they take a look at the forums.

To come to a conclusion, I'll leave this final statement : The Argonath community was founded due to poor administration, discrimination, and a lack of equality in the previous community that the founders played on. Nowadays, these exact qualities can be found within the community of Argonath. People are forced to lie in unban requests to get unbanned, just because they have to be in favor of the owner's point of view, and are not allowed to have their own opinion. Things went that far that if you're against the USSR, you can get a forum ban and expect your forum signature to be changed to ''I am a facist'. Something that really disappointed me was that one of the community leaders has replaced the avatar of a Latin-American member of the community to a Mexican one with a sombrero or when he insulted the hell out of BlueFox for committing a valid ban on a scripter. Word was being said that ... nevermind, bullocks.


Footnote : I do tolerate opinions, I do respect them but I don't do either of those when they come by a higher ranked member who lacks in defending himself or others. I thank a few members who wrote this together with me and do not expect to be forwarded by messages like "use [email protected] if you have problems" because this is something serious, and the mentioned address occupied by Kojak who has gone lost.

Emre, thanks for your opinions, but unfortunately, I regard this nothing but a public criticism and complaint towards our helpers. Furthermore, as you already know, it is not allowed to post such a topic here.

From your questions and arguments, I can tell that you have seen some problems in the admin team.
If you think admins have problems, send me an email via [email protected] WITH valid evidence.

Boromir

How can you shut this topic down. Is Argonath afraid? Criticism is not allowed to be posted because all of you are afraid of the truth. You will shut this topic down, and punish me, I know. But it needs to be said, again and again, until it is in your f**king heads. You are nothing but loyal dogs to the administration of Argonath, afraid to improve upon your mistakes because you first must admit that someone who is not part of your club speaks the truth, and that is the very foundation of the problem that plagues this server.

Boromirs quote exemplifies the ignorance that the administration lives with. Emre and I are not the only ones who think this way, although we may be the only ones to voice our opinions.

Your server has become worse than the very thing you ran away from to create this place. Think about that.

[Nathan_Alexandrov]

No offense to the administration team but a problem cant be shoved aside, a public uproar is like cancer, needs sorting, push is aside it will only get worse.

[Caltson]

Because you think you got it at the right end doesn't mean the Administration is actually wrong.
I have never been experiencing issues with the administration and yet I do enjoy roleplay in many roles, including the heavily discussed suspects.
The Administration Team gets selected and constantly supervised by the Administration. It is wrong to assume they're being wrong, even though proof excists they are right.
Being banned for a wrong reason never occured to me after 4 years and I have all trust it won't ever happen aswell.

To make a long story short, your topic was locked simply because it has been regarded as simple critism with no grounded reason. If someone is truly being as bad as you say, gather evidence and at least make sure to make a change yourself instead of complaining about it, Maxy.

I suppose this topic may be locked aswell as once again, I don't see a reason for this topic except to complain about things that can be disputed in many ways.

[Boromir]

Thanks for pointing out how ignorant I am.

Since you apparently showed me that you do not like our community, I will let you go by banning you.
Also, you shitted on admins and even me, a community leader, when you did not have to.
We did not, do not, and will not keep players who continuously shit on us without any reasons.

[Gandalf]

How can you shut this topic down. Is Argonath afraid? Criticism is not allowed to be posted because all of you are afraid of the truth. You will shut this topic down, and punish me, I know. But it needs to be said, again and again, until it is in your f**king heads. You are nothing but loyal dogs to the administration of Argonath, afraid to improve upon your mistakes because you first must admit that someone who is not part of your club speaks the truth, and that is the very foundation of the problem that plagues this server.

Boromirs quote exemplifies the ignorance that the administration lives with. Emre and I are not the only ones who think this way, although we may be the only ones to voice our opinions.

Your server has become worse than the very thing you ran away from to create this place. Think about that.

And you have contributed greatly by your attitude once you moved elsewhere.