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on: July 13, 2012, 09:06:06 pm
Okey firstly i want to say this is not moaning topic or something, i want discussion without provoking, and some explainations.


Today i said something that was joke : an admin kicked me though i was the one who got disrespected.


After 5 seconds i got kick for reason : [email protected]
Why they need to kick us for that reason? Since we know the email, and no need to kick us just can PM us.
Thisis not moaning or something i just want to know why they do that.


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Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 09:10:51 pm
The kick is a sign of "Calm down, redirect yourself to the e-mail, fill in a complaint, then come CALMLY back"



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Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 09:11:55 pm
First of all I explained you the reason for your banana. However, you didn't like it, so you started a moaning discussion with me. In this "discussion" you started provoking me that now all of a sudden I was the one thinking you are a "noob". I kicked your for provoking administration and gave you a chance for a small cool down break.

You come back and said in reaction to my kick, let me quote: "eh those kids these days". For which you got kicked again, this time by doggi, including the complaint email.

Conclusion: you needed calm down period and instead of that you started provoking the administration. Report to the mail: [email protected] if you don't like our actions.

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Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 09:12:14 pm
Every action has a reaction.
In other words if you continue to discuss, the argument will only continue.
The admin was putting an end to the one who continued the discussion.



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Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 09:14:58 pm
The kick is a sign of "Calm down, redirect yourself to the e-mail, fill in a complaint, then come CALMLY back"


Yes i know that you kick players to Calm down, by have u ever been in situation of player and get kick for nothing, that thing pisses him off not calming down. Talkin from experience :)


First of all I explained you the reason for your banana. However, you didn't like it, so you started a moaning discussion with me. In this "discussion" you started provoking me that now all of a sudden I was the one thinking you are a "noob". I kicked your for provoking administration and gave you a chance for a small cool down break.

You come back and said in reaction to my kick, let me quote: "eh those kids these days". For which you got kicked again, this time by doggi, including the complaint email.

Conclusion: you needed calm down period and instead of that you started provoking the administration. Report to the mail: [email protected] if you don't like our actions.

Topic can be locked.

Man ur making this like its my unban request, im not talking what just happend, im just talking about what ive seen on argonath. I didn't said your name.


Topic can stay open, its just for discussion not arguing


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Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 09:20:12 pm
This is not a general discussion, this is a discussion based on what just happened in-game, which you did not like in your opinion. At-least, that is how you started it.


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Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 09:21:35 pm
This is not a general discussion, this is a discussion based on what just happened in-game, which you did not like in your opinion. At-least, that is how you started it.


Yes the previous stiuation made me to open this discussion. But this is not first time that happend to me or someone else. So yea im not moaning or something about that situation i just want some explainations by higher admins, or something so every player will know and there will be less moaning.


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Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 09:26:22 pm
The irony... :devroll:
You can't even state your opinion, not here or in-game, you'll receive the email address :roll:


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Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 09:29:41 pm
The irony... :devroll:
You can't even state your opinion, not here or in-game, you'll receive the email address :roll:

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Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 09:39:50 pm
Every situations is unique and we cant give an generall answer that your seeking for here.

If you are not happy with the answers the admins given you feel free to either send that mail to "you know where" or send a forum PM directly to an manager + of SAMP and they can look into your unique situation and we can from there give you an answer to your question.

If you wish to talk to us "face to face", please catch us on Team Speak, MSN (if you have someones) or in-game.

If you want any future help from here we need to know your in-game name so we can make an small review of what happen, time/date would be appriciated as it helps us to find what we seek to give you an quicker responds.

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Reply #10 on: July 14, 2012, 12:21:51 am
Make sure to remember that we are not robots, we are human just like you, and we also have feelings of anger which we try to keep out of the game in order to keep our duty... So next time you are furious towards some administrator, remember that you are not the only one in that place. We also have headaches for a few players who just keep ignoring our orders when told not to, but we don't go out there expressing our rage and flaming. :)

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Reply #11 on: July 14, 2012, 01:50:43 am
It only occured once in my entire career on Argonath that I've had a dispute with an administrator about kicking me, which was earlier this year.

I reported the issue and as I believe I'm in my full right, the right actions will be taken to prevent this administrator from doing the same again. In this situation, I did not post any topics like this nor complained about the administration team as it still remains a dispute between two people and not a war between one person against an entire team.

[email protected] was used aswell as a personal notification to a few Community Leaders and I'm sure the situation is sorted out as we speak.
However, if you go back online and disrespect by saying 'kids these days', then you are clearly on the wrong path and you may need to adjust your behaviour instead of shoving the problem to the admin's responsibility.

Hope this helps you a little.


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Reply #12 on: July 14, 2012, 01:55:09 am
Every situations is unique and we cant give an generall answer that your seeking for here.

If you are not happy with the answers the admins given you feel free to either send that mail to "you know where" or send a forum PM directly to an manager + of SAMP and they can look into your unique situation and we can from there give you an answer to your question.

If you wish to talk to us "face to face", please catch us on Team Speak, MSN (if you have someones) or in-game.

If you want any future help from here we need to know your in-game name so we can make an small review of what happen, time/date would be appriciated as it helps us to find what we seek to give you an quicker responds.

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I have some of you on MSN, cDa u think so or something, but you are always busy so not answering, sent a complain never got respond to any of them but never mind lets go to that one. Well its not if im happy or not from what admins said, they didn't answered and they quite was going for argue.

And no need for the situation that happend, kick kick what ever, i logged after 30 seconds, but the problem is that they reputation is ruined



Make sure to remember that we are not robots, we are human just like you, and we also have feelings of anger which we try to keep out of the game in order to keep our duty... So next time you are furious towards some administrator, remember that you are not the only one in that place. We also have headaches for a few players who just keep ignoring our orders when told not to, but we don't go out there expressing our rage and flaming. :)


Yes i know you are not robots, yes you keep the anger out of the game and instead of yelling at them u kick them which u make them anger :)


However, if you go back online and disrespect by saying 'kids these days', then you are clearly on the wrong path and you may need to adjust your behaviour instead of shoving the problem to the admin's responsibility.

Hope this helps you a little.


Sincerely,

Caltson


The problem is when u log after some punishment and u try to change the subject and if the admins doesn't like it they think the words you just said after the logging is for them. In my case i logged and said that yes, but i didn't continued and one admin involved and i got kick or something like that don't really remember i forgot. Since im not talking about my situation, im talking in general


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Reply #13 on: July 14, 2012, 02:14:38 am
Wait, revert roles here for a minute.

What would you do if you just kicked someone for 'provoking administration', then that person comes back and says 'Kids these days...'
Would you just let it slip by like nothing happened even though the person is breaking yet another rule?

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Reply #14 on: July 14, 2012, 02:28:38 am
Wait, revert roles here for a minute.

What would you do if you just kicked someone for 'provoking administration', then that person comes back and says 'Kids these days...'
Would you just let it slip by like nothing happened even though the person is breaking yet another rule?

I dont see hpw that breaking a rule. There is no way to even prove who thats directed at, for all an admin could know, it could have been a continuation of a conversation with someone else.

I have always been against kicks, seeing as they do nothing but agrevate people and the only difference between a kick and a warn is the 3 seconds it takes to hit the connect button. If they don't calm down after a warn, tempban them, as no one is going to calm down in the short time it takes to relog.



 


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