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North Korea seeks immediate food aid after floods

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Reply #61 on: August 04, 2012, 10:27:36 pm
Wrong..
Do not make things up here.
They do live in cities. And they even have hotels for foreign visitors.
Sure they do, but not as populated as they should be..
I'm aware of the hotels aswell, but they rarely get any visitors.


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Reply #62 on: August 04, 2012, 11:58:53 pm
Really? I'm starting to think Estonia has no cities as well, to make you such a specialist.
There's nothing wrong with them, but if you call New York a city, then the cities we have can't really be called cities. But that's an other matter, if hardly a matter, for another time.
What Freedom is trying to say is that the largest settlement Estonia has, is by definition a town.

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Reply #63 on: August 05, 2012, 06:01:55 am
We can clearly see that North Korea is imposing a double standard, by asking for aid from the other countries in its times of need, while locking itself away from the world the rest of the time. JayL has said that South Korea is closer to the criteria of "countries who are vassals of the US"... but let us look at status quo, regardless of whether that assumption is true or not.

South Koreans live in a more advanced country (which surpasses even that of mine, despite the fact that the PH Government is one of the, if not THE, most 'US lapdog' governments in the region), which can literally be discerned at a single glance (from a birds-eye view). There is a reason behind the joke that North Korea is always celebrating Earth Hour.

The government of North Korea in itself is one that operates more on ideals contrary to human nature (i.e. government in absolute control of every aspect of life, such as what you eat, how you dress, and who you talk to) as opposed to being one that caters to and protects the rights of its citizens. It has become more of a massive prison camp than a legitimate country.

Couple that with a fat dictator who prefers developing nuclear missiles over economic development that could uplift the general standard of living, and you have a recipe for disaster. The country itself is functioning as a giant machine that caters to the dictator's personal whims (such as showing off ballistic missiles that are more like boomerangs than missiles) rather than one with the aim of upholding the benefit of its biggest stakeholders; the citizens.

I believe that "evil" is a subjective interpretation. However, even if you examine North Korea from an objective perspective, and compare it to the outside world, you can see how much worse off its citizens are doing. The PH government may not be entirely self-sufficient, but I can say that our citizens are better off as we can live in a country where we can eat what we want, dress how we want, travel where we want, and say what we want (except for stupidly obvious intimidations such as bomb threats) without a sky-high chance of being shot by the nearest government agent.

While I concede that there are certain risks that come along with a capitalist society (as outlined by JayL, such as chemical-coated fastfood and computer radiation), it is also the responsibility of the citizens to exercise some degree of accountability in their own personal lives, rather than the government spoon-feeding everything.

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Reply #64 on: August 05, 2012, 08:26:10 am
You always have to be the protector of peace and weak, right ?
Biting my tongue on my opinion and standing up for those who are unable to in order to stop useless fighting on both sides makes me a protector? Last I checked, to do that, all you had to do was have some humanity in you.

This topic is seriously and ridiculously out of control. For the love of Sauron, someone lock this sickening thing or clean out the ugly posts. This is putting out a great presentation to our players about our community's respect for one another. Jeezuz guys...



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Reply #65 on: August 05, 2012, 11:17:04 am
Biting my tongue on my opinion and standing up for those who are unable to in order to stop useless fighting on both sides makes me a protector? Last I checked, to do that, all you had to do was have some humanity in you.

This topic is seriously and ridiculously out of control. For the love of Sauron, someone lock this sickening thing or clean out the ugly posts. This is putting out a great presentation to our players about our community's respect for one another. Jeezuz guys...


I think jay is capable to stand up for himself, so in my book, that counts as getting into someone else's business.



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Reply #66 on: August 05, 2012, 11:29:15 am
A very clever request from North Korea. Countries are always proclaiming that they give humanitarian aid to everyone who needs it and this is free from any political issues.
North Korea has now asked for such aid, and people are denying this because of politics? Great.
So its ok to starve and drown if you happen to follow a different political system, we are all such great people that we help anyone in need who kisses our ass.

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Reply #67 on: August 06, 2012, 05:05:01 am
A very clever request from North Korea. Countries are always proclaiming that they give humanitarian aid to everyone who needs it and this is free from any political issues.
North Korea has now asked for such aid, and people are denying this because of politics? Great.
So its ok to starve and drown if you happen to follow a different political system, we are all such great people that we help anyone in need who kisses our ass.

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Couple that with a fat dictator who prefers developing nuclear missiles over economic development that could uplift the general standard of living

Recipe for disaster is also if this fat dictator lets go of what he has to defend his country...

Besides you say it like North Korea's sytem is the only around which influences the citizens' lifestyle. Aren't there any massive advertisement bombing raids about how wonderful this type of clothes are, how you will be only a successful person if you wear this and eat that in the rest of the world?

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Reply #68 on: August 06, 2012, 05:11:11 am
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Recipe for disaster is also if this fat dictator lets go of what he has to defend his country...

Besides you say it like North Korea's sytem is the only around which influences the citizens' lifestyle. Aren't there any massive advertisement bombing raids about how wonderful this type of clothes are, how you will be only a successful person if you wear this and eat that in the rest of the world?

Oh yes sure, but it's not like someone is putting a gun to your head and telling you to wear this shirt.


Sorry, but in what way it is right to live in a great palace with good food, invest in nuclear bombs and missiles as a hobby, and leave you people to starve and get fucked by floods ?

Jay, I don't give a fuck if your a fan of communism, but what North Korea have is nothing like it. it is a clear Dictartoship, and just because it gives the finger to capitalism does not make it right.



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Reply #69 on: August 06, 2012, 05:17:59 am
Oh yes sure, but it's not like someone is putting a gun to your head and telling you to wear this shirt.
Sorry, but in what way it is right to live in a great palace with good food, invest in nuclear bombs and missiles as a hobby, and leave you people to starve and get f**ked by floods ?

Thank you for providing me with the most accurate example of romanticised (to not say something else) view I have been talking about in this topic.

People do not get shot for wearing a certain type of shirt in North Korea. That's obvious distortion - doesn't even need a whole discussion, unless if you speak of someone wearing a shirt reading ''down with Kim Jong un'' and then in that case what do you expect? Said citizen to be hailed?

They know that their people are having hardship, but they know that if they stop investing on defense to fix the problem there will be a bunch of either NATO soldiers or foreign-supplied minorities bringing down anything that there is of order and stability in the country. But I guess it's all good with submitting the North Korean nation to total chaos if it's to remove the evil communists.

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Reply #70 on: August 06, 2012, 05:28:21 am
Thank you for providing me with the most accurate example of romanticised (to not say something else) view I have been talking about in this topic.

People do not get shot for wearing a certain type of shirt in North Korea. That's obvious distortion - doesn't even need a whole discussion, unless if you speak of someone wearing a shirt reading ''down with Kim Jong un'' and then in that case what do you expect? Said citizen to be hailed?

They know that their people are having hardship, but they know that if they stop investing on defense to fix the problem there will be a bunch of either NATO soldiers or foreign-supplied minorities bringing down anything that there is of order and stability in the country. But I guess it's all good with submitting the North Korean nation to total chaos if it's to remove the evil communists.

You act like if NATO started this, let me remind you North Korea is the one threatening South Korea, not the other way around.

One thing is to defend your country, another is to repeatedly threaten a near country, by shooting rockets and placing armies near their border.



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Reply #71 on: August 06, 2012, 05:38:06 am
What started it was the division of Korea.

North Korea overreacted with the shelling of that South Korean island yes, but there is nothing wrong with placing armies near the border. The demilitarized zone exists for a reason. And if only all of the harassment between the two parties was just because of threats...

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Reply #72 on: August 06, 2012, 05:41:28 am
What started it was the division of Korea.

North Korea overreacted with the shelling of that South Korean island yes, but there is nothing wrong with placing armies near the border. The demilitarized zone exists for a reason. And if only all of the harassment between the two parties was just because of threats...


Nothing wrong, except that they are in a truce, and placing armies and firing rockets over the border are a clear break of such truce, do you really think they need to do that in order to keep the peace ?



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Reply #73 on: August 06, 2012, 05:45:27 am
A truce is a halt to agression, and how can there be aggression if the units are on border inside own territory?

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Reply #74 on: August 06, 2012, 05:46:58 am
Wow. I don't even know how to address the obvious disregard of logic. So, I'm not going to. Just wow.



 


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