Possible /dice cheat?

[Cyril]

Gimli doesn't need to prove you anything. He actually doesn't even care if you believe him or not. But he knows what he talks about since he made the script.. :roll:

[Devin]

I honestly can't believe this topic has continued this far, saying there is a /dice cheat is like saying that a sasquatch actually exists, yet there are no bones, no actual "animal" ever caught.

[Conroy]

Ok, Gimli. Let's do it this way. You and Conroy goes to a casino, you Gimli got unlimited money, you can just give Conroy 2m so he could use them in casino and afterwards removing them. Tell me the results after you and Conroy have been playing.

The first 10 rounds, where you send the cash right away, and do /dice right after. Tell me the results of the winning in x2. Then the next 10 rounds after that. Conroy gonna be dealer, and you gonna send him let's say 100k, then Conroy gonna wait at least 7 seconds - before he says "Go". Then you dice. Tell me the results after that, and I want screenshot proves. Then I will believe you that there are no tricks.

Believe what you want. If you think there are tricks, do what ever makes you get high numbers.

We, the developers, are telling you that the numbers are preloaded into memory when the server starts up and when ever the numbers in memory run out new ones are loaded.

The only luck is when you roll the dice, the next numbers in memory are high, nothing else

[McGarrett]

Believe what you want. If you think there are tricks, do what ever makes you get high numbers.

We, the developers, are telling you that the numbers are preloaded into memory when the server starts up and when ever the numbers in memory run out new ones are loaded.

The only luck is when you roll the dice, the next numbers in memory are high, nothing else

Ok, fine then. Then you got no proves that there actually is no trick in the /dice.

[Teddy]

Ok, fine then. Then you got no proves that there actually is no trick in the /dice.

Will you give it a god damn rest? They don't have to prove shit to you, if you don't like it then leave and go play elsewhere. If all you want to do here is make a fight out of everything and shit on the community its players and accuse the developers of lying, then just get lost.

[Devin]

Ok, fine then. Then you got no proves that there actually is no trick in the /dice.

You may as well argue with a wall about who is going to move first. 

[Conroy]

You are arguing over preloaded randomness, you are pretty bad ass.
Go argue with someone/something that cares.

[Devin]

Go argue with someone/something that cares.

One of the best lines I have seen written in quite some time.

[McGarrett]

Will you give it a god damn rest? They don't have to prove shit to you, if you don't like it then leave and go play elsewhere. If all you want to do here is make a fight out of everything and shit on the community its players and accuse the developers of lying, then just get lost.

You clearly don't see it do you? If you were gambling in Argonath regularly, which I doubt you and the developers of Argonath do, then you would understand. But, no, it's wrong that the players gives a message that there clearly are something wrong with exactly that script, and all we get in return is shitting and trolls.

You know what, if that is what's stopping me from playing in Argonath, so be it. I don't want to be a part of a community with developers like that, I want someone who can make themselves a little humble and actually take it into consideration and test it out for a longer time of period instead of only one fucking /dice round and then claim it is "random", OF F*CKING COURSE It's random when you only try ONCE! Go screw yourself with that bullshit you present to me.

[Teddy]

You clearly don't see it do you? If you were gambling in Argonath regularly, which I doubt you and the developers of Argonath do, then you would understand. But, no it's wrong that the players gives a message that there clearly are something wrong with exactly that script, and all we get in return is shitting and trolls. You know what, if that is what's stopping me from playing, so be it. I don't want developers like that, I want someone who can make themselves a little humble and actually take it into consideration and test it out for a longer time of period instead of only one f**king /dice round and then claim it is "random", OF f**kING COURSE It's random when you only try ONCE! Go screw yourself with that bullshit you present to me.

They don't need to play or test it to see if its random, they know the code. If you knew a single fk about development it would be obvious to you that yes there is as xcasio stated a "chance" of being able to guess the next number. This guessing would need to be done by a computer and running the algorithms that generate the number themselves. Yes there is a seed, yes this seed is random (most likely) in my LUA and even in web development, random I know i use the time current time in UNIX as the seed for random but still, the chances of being able to abuse this are very very slim. This isn't like card counting, you don't do a simple math per card and then spam your keyboard like a insane little 6 year old and randomly somehow get lucky.

I suggest you learn how things work before you start point fingers and telling the developers to prove things they don't need to as its easily accessible knowledge.

[Kirgiz]

Shit is simple, guys, i got this !


Just go to www.random.org

Anyone who can beat the system and put digits from 1 - 6 and always get 5's and 6's gets $100 directly. I'm not joking, I am seriously going to send $100 to whoever does it.

[Conroy]

I suggest you calm down a little. I already explained to you that it was completely random but it was your decision to continue your pointless discussion.

[McGarrett]

They don't need to play or test it to see if its random, they know the code. If you knew a single fk about development it would be obvious to you that yes there is as xcasio stated a "chance" of being able to guess the next number. This guessing would need to be done by a computer and running the algorithms that generate the number themselves. Yes there is a seed, yes this seed is random (most likely) in my LUA and even in web development, random I know i use the time current time in UNIX as the seed for random but still, the chances of being able to abuse this are very very slim. This isn't like card counting, you don't do a simple math per card and then spam your keyboard like a insane little 6 year old and randomly somehow get lucky.

I suggest you learn how things work before you start point fingers and telling the developers to prove things they don't need to as its easily accessible knowledge.

This topic is prove enough that everyone shit on his question and just trash it right away. Yes, I do know about development, that's why I think this should be checked. Yeah, you're right, xcasio said it might be a chance.. Even if it was 0.00000000000000001 percent chance that it is a possible dice trick, then it should of course be considered! Even Betsson is more random than Argonath, so go and cool the fuck down.

And yeah, as I've stated in my earlier topic about the same thing is that I've checked this for a long time of period, NOW I want the developers to take a look.

[Conroy]

How can we check randomness?

[McGarrett]

How can we check randomness?

I'm not the developer here, but if there's any way I can help, I will be there. I am not standing here trying to prove something for nothing.