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UK Threatens to enter Ecuador Embassy to arrest Wikileaks' Julian Assan

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There is a Law, however Ecuador has given Assan pretty much the same rights as a citizen of Ecuador and at this point if the UK broke into to arrest him it would be Kidnapping and if taken to the World Court it would be something stupid that could lead to a war as I doubt China or Russia would not take kindly to the UK saying in essence saying"f**k your sovereignty were the UK". Not to mention the amount of Global politics that would be in a huge uproar. However take this for an example what if Ecuador is supported by its neighbors, what if nations put sanctions on the UK and refuse to provide them with there goods, Alot of Food products come from the South American region, and just like that overnight the supply of said items to the UK stopped, Prices would raise higher the Oil and that would hurt the economy of the UK. Thanks to the world being so inter dependent on other nations a strong military is not always the only way to bring a nation to there knee's.
Although you have some good points, I should expect countrys like China and Russia not to go to war with Britain over something as stupid and simple as Ecuador wrongfuly holding a man thats wanted by quite a few countrys, for instance America wants his head and they'd love Britain to enter with force and arrest him so that they could get their hands on him, so if the UK did enter I'm sure the US would back the UK up if China and/or Russia made any threats to the UK, and you say they could sanction some products that come from South America to the UK, I don't mean to be a dick but I'm sure the UK could survive without bananas.. :lol:
Britain basicly supplies most of it's own food, if you come here you'll see by the hundreds and hundreds of miles of farms lining each motorway, thats how in the WW's the UK survived, because the most used foods in Britain are unfact made in Britain.
However back on topic, and like I said, the UK will just be standing at Ecuadors door until they get tired and throw him out, honestly I'de love for them to burst in right now and take him by force, if he thinks he can spend his whole life in Ecuadors embassy he's wrong, BBC news did say it's a stand off testing who will give in first, either Ecuador gets bored and kicks him out, or the British government gets tired of using their trained/payed for police officers standing at their door, if the UK does pull it's cops away from the embassy, they'd put undercover officers there to spy on the embassy, TBH I think this will be taken to a world court if someone doesn't give in soon regardless, Ecuador should not be abusing the system to keep a heavily wanted man in their embassy, the fact they do it on British soil (basicly) is already bad enough, do they want to get a middle finger from the UK in the future if they may need something?

I hope the UK removes Ecuadors embassy when all this is over, they don't deserve it after this.
And I suppose yes Ecuador could to the same to an embassy on Ecuadors soil, but do we really need it anyway?

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so if the UK did enter I'm sure the US would back the UK up if China and/or Russia made any threats to the UK,

China is dependant on the United States for money, and the United States is dependant on China for... well pretty much anything made that we have. Diplomatically, the US wouldn't do anything drastic against China.
As for Russians, they will most likely continue to drink their Vodka and forget about it.

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I should expect countrys like China and Russia not to go to war with Britain over something as stupid

They won't, they don't care. Taylor has no grounds or evidence to back his claims.

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Ecuador should not be abusing the system to keep a heavily wanted man in their embassy

The whole point of Asylum, is to protect those who are wanted for (false) prosecution by other countries. This is the system. However normally, like a safe haven but was designed for people who are actually in danager from their own countries not someone who half the worlds nations want stopped plus Sweden wanting him to execute these charges against him.

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I hope the UK removes Ecuadors embassy when all this is over, they don't deserve it after this.

Won't be easy to do as it is easy said.

I saw last night on TV, that one woman was saying he (Assanage) will be taken to Ecuador, where is status will return to a normal citizen, will be arrested and will be turned over the United States for prosecution. They theorized that, based on the time to decide his "asylum", that Ecuador may have arranged a "trap" for the wanted criminal. Ecuador has a strong standing extradition treaty with the United States. However, this was only a theory by a legal analyst and has really no backing to support it and I myself, find it a bit shady.



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China is dependant on the United States for money, and the United States is dependant on China for... well pretty much anything made that we have. Diplomatically, the US wouldn't do anything drastic against China.
As for Russians, they will most likely continue to drink their Vodka and forget about it.

They won't, they don't care. Taylor has no grounds or evidence to back his claims.


Bah no one wars now a days however sanctions are the name of the game and the China Russia thing is similar to whats going in in Syria, there just flexing what political power they have and testing there influence, NO one would actually war anyone but sanctions are a very likely situation, and there are nations like China and Russia who could back said sanctions dispute the fact that its somewhat counter intuitive. Pretty much as far as things go right now this whole drama is bascily over national laws of nations and international laws. Assan should fin refuge in nations that I stated before where the West is most likely not going to attempt to push around and instead beg.

Also at that line "Ecuador should not be abusing the system to keep a heavily wanted man in their embassy" "I hope the UK removes Ecuadors embassy when all this is over, they don't deserve it after this."
The UK very much can however embassy's are protected by international law, thus why just marching into one is seen as an act of war.



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As I mentioned before, what's there to tell us that Assange is not a victim of a political scheme by the involved bureaucracies to remove someone who might challenge their curtailing of the right to information?

The most important part is interacting with others and meeting people from around the world.

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As I mentioned before, what's there to tell us that Assange is not a victim of a political scheme by the involved bureaucracies to remove someone who might challenge their curtailing of the right to information?

There is nothing that can prove otherwise, or for it.
However, he brought it upon himself. He knew exactly what he was doing... you can not do what he did and expect no international repercussions to take place.



 


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