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Reply #210 on: September 20, 2012, 01:03:15 pm
Kirgiz I don't know if your post is sarcastic but Arabs did create the numbers we use today.
Now I see where education went wrong.

You see, FYI, Indians created the modern numbers we use today (from 0 to 9). They were stolen and implemented by Arabs and brought to Europe, but Indians were the one who created them.

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dude..

the Babylonians are a bloody ancient civilisation who didn't even have paper. they could have used some *sort* of Algebra methods meaning some ways of solving problems. but what you use today was all invented and developed by the Arabs. the word Algebra was created by the arabs. and its a Arabian word.
just to let you know A fact is something which is proven. All this history is recorded and written.

also i see you posted a link of the BBC. you should check this out too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/learningzone/clips/islamic-mathematics-and-the-invention-of-algebra/11268.html

Seriously, drop it.

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Reply #211 on: September 20, 2012, 02:57:28 pm
 :lol:, people can't handle if some Muslim made some great achievement.

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They were stolen and implemented by Arabs

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Well since i have some time left, i will leave a brief history about Algebra.

A mathematician named Diophantus lived in ancient Alexandria around 200 AD.  Diophantus wrote Arithmetica, a book that described how to solve different problems but he didn't have unified method of solving problems, so some methods didn't work out.

Brahmagupta, an Indian mathematician invented several important quadratic equations, algebraic formulas which includes the linear equation.

Now, a Muslim mathematician Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi invented a unified system for solving generalized problems, unlike Diophantus whose system was more problem-specific solutions. Most of the modern-day equations and proofs by Al-Khwarizmi is still used today, such as quadratic equation. He made the field of algebra you see today.

So basically, Al-Khwarizmi improved the Greek/Indian Algebra by a great deal or he perhaps made itself by just improving the Indian algebra.

The numerals number you are using today came from the Islamic countries. The people called these numbers "Hindass" which means, "Adopted or given by the Hindus/Indians". So basically, the numbers came from India to Islamic countries then were taught to the Europeans.


These are all facts. Thanks for reading.



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Reply #212 on: September 20, 2012, 03:15:07 pm
:lol:, people can't handle if some Muslim made some great achievement.

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Arabic numerals or Hindu numeralsor Hindu-Arabic numerals or Indo-Arabic numerals[4] are the ten digits (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9). They are descended from the Hindu-Arabic numeral system developed by Indian mathematicians, in which a sequence of digits such as "975" is read as a numeral. The Indian numerals were adopted by the Persian and Arabic mathematicians in India, and passed on to the Arabs further west.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals
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Reply #213 on: September 20, 2012, 03:23:25 pm
My subject was on Algebra, not numbers. I wrote above that the numbers came from India.



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Reply #214 on: September 20, 2012, 03:27:17 pm
Kirgiz seriously which college you went to.. Arabs created the numbers we use today INCLUDING the zero. Do not forget the zero, we created it. End of story.

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If you want facts, QUIT reading Wikipedia. If you can't handle the fact that Arabs made one of the greatest or let's say the GREATEST achievement in the history, don't post about it.

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Reply #215 on: September 20, 2012, 03:31:19 pm
It wasn't the Arabs, if you are bring nationalism to this then i would say that it would be the Persians as they were the first one to adopt it and pass it down to the Arabs. A simple word can be used, "Muslims". :)



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Reply #216 on: September 20, 2012, 03:40:46 pm
Yeah.

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Reply #217 on: September 20, 2012, 03:49:12 pm
This question you have asked, I will answer however not here as its not related to the topic. If you have msn or anywhere we can have a discussion I will gladly answer all your doubts and misconceptions.
Id rather have it in the open for everyone else to see also. Just explain to me why Muslim feel Muhammed is above God and why practically that's what Muslims worship/adore/etc.



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Reply #218 on: September 20, 2012, 03:50:15 pm
dude..

the Babylonians are a bloody ancient civilisation who didn't even have paper. they could have used some *sort* of Algebra methods meaning some ways of solving problems. but what you use today was all invented and developed by the Arabs. the word Algebra was created by the arabs. and its a Arabian word.
just to let you know A fact is something which is proven. All this history is recorded and written.

also i see you posted a link of the BBC. you should check this out too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/learningzone/clips/islamic-mathematics-and-the-invention-of-algebra/11268.html

So if you copy something and then work it out on paper you are the inventor?
Wel I guess as that is how Islam was created it was common practice....

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Reply #219 on: September 20, 2012, 03:51:08 pm
Full Proof to stop this Argument , Muhammed ibn Musa Al-Khwaresmi The inventor of Algebra he was professional in Latin translations of his work on the Indian numerals introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world.[5] His Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing presented the first systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations in Arabic. In Renaissance Europe, he was considered the original inventor of algebra, although we now know that his work is based on older Indian or Greek sources.[6] He revised Ptolemy's Geography and wrote on astronomy and astrology.

Some words reflect the importance of al-Khwarizmi's contributions to mathematics. "Algebra" is derived from al-jabr, one of the two operations he used to solve quadratic equations. Algorism and algorithm stem from Algoritmi, the Latin form of his name.[7] His name is also the origin of (Spanish) guarismo[8] and of (Portuguese) algarismo, both meaning digit.

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Reply #220 on: September 20, 2012, 03:52:06 pm
It wasn't the Arabs, if you are bring nationalism to this then i would say that it would be the Persians as they were the first one to adopt it and pass it down to the Arabs. A simple word can be used, "Muslims". :)
Persians in Babylon certainly were not Muslims when they created this.
As there were not any Muslims before Mohammed.

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Reply #221 on: September 20, 2012, 03:54:10 pm
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Id rather have it in the open for everyone else to see also. Just explain to me why Muslim feel Muhammed is above God and why practically that's what Muslims worship/adore/etc.

Allah (SWT) is above everyone else, tell me where it tell us that our Prophet (PBUH) is above Allah? (SWT)

Allah (SWT) gave us clear message that we should obey the Prophet (PBUH) as we would obey him. Whatever the Prophet (PBUH) did was:-

1- Ordered by Allah (SWT)
2- Pleased Allah (SWT)



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Reply #222 on: September 20, 2012, 03:59:08 pm
Persians in Babylon certainly were not Muslims when they created this.
As there were not any Muslims before Mohammed.
Wait Gandalf Algebra was invented after Muhammed -Peace upon him- Muslims took the lead in this time of history Europians was travelling to Arab countires nad learning Arabic to take usefull information then the history changed now the Europian people is in devolopment and we are learning,We were and still the people who god gave them all knowledge to learn them to people Thats How is life going, We are the original who made up all these thing,and we believe that the history will change all of that and at the end i want to say the Clock is still ticking didn't stop :D



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Reply #223 on: September 20, 2012, 04:00:30 pm
Alan, he is not worth your time. While we 'adore' 'worshipping' Mohammed he adores to spread false information.

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Reply #224 on: September 20, 2012, 04:01:10 pm
Allah (SWT) is above everyone else, tell me where it tell us that our Prophet (PBUH) is above Allah? (SWT)

Allah (SWT) gave us clear message that we should obey the Prophet (PBUH) as we would obey him. Whatever the Prophet (PBUH) did was:-

1- Ordered by Allah (SWT)
2- Pleased Allah (SWT)
No Doubt in that Alan.



 


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