Anti-Islam film causes multiple diplomatic mission attacks

[Alan.Wake]

Interesting philosophy. So Islam has to convert people by telling them things they are not allowed to verify, as for that they would need to be converted first

Well, if you read what i wrote before this edit, forgive me, i just like to "test" some people out of curiosity. Once again, sorry.

 "No one can touch it except those who are pure." (56:79)  "Indeed the polytheists are impure." (9:28)

Some Muslims believe that just because of this verse, non-believers (including other Abraham religions) are impure and therefore not allowed to touch it.

The first verse is a response to the disbelievers if read right. The disbelievers said that the book was revealed by Demons instead of Angels of God. It has nothing to do about touching by pure or impure physically, means. The verse is a response to the disbelievers because Demons, are who unpure, could not touch the Quran.

The second verse is about the disbelievers. The people in the Arabian penisula were given the message of Islam, they refused. So they were declared as criminals in the eyes of God and then he ordained them. Believers, these polytheists are impure, therefore, they should not come close to Sacred Mosque after this year." (9:28) So basically, they were spiritually impure, therefore they weren't allowed to enter the house of God anymore.

Thanks for reading, once again sorry, the curiosity questions are in my nature and i strive to shun it.

[SugarD]

If a muslim would make an anti Christian movie, we would tolerate it, but if we make an anti Muslim video Muslims start rioting... Yea, those people react better!

I bet if you made a movie where Jesus was constantly sinning and demeaned as a false prophet with no significance other than leading a group of "misfit religionists", then those who strongly believe in Christianity would become angry too.

[Nathan]

I bet if you made a movie where Jesus was constantly sinning and demeaned as a false prophet with no significance other than leading a group of "misfit religionists", then those who strongly believe in Christianity would become angry too.

South Park, Family Guy, and many other medias already do this and you don't see us rioting... We move on with our lives knowing that the people who do these things are only making it worse for themselves.

[SugarD]

South Park, Family Guy, and many other medias already do this and you don't see us rioting... We move on with our lives knowing that the people who do these things are only making it worse for themselves.

Actually, protests from large Christian groups have happened as a result of this. The only difference is that we have many more laws and law enforcers in the countries where these groups are prominent that prevent things such as the rioting we are seeing caused by the Muslim groups. As for the countries that have stricter laws and more law enforcers where Muslims are also prominent, you can tell that they are not rioting there.

[S7ab_Tns]

If a muslim would make an anti Christian movie, we would tolerate it, but if we make an anti Muslim video Muslims start rioting... Yea, those people react better!

Maybe we didnt do it ?

[Arslan]

That's the biggest obstacle I'm having with Islam, which is the fact that you guys seem so focussed on protecting Muhammed's name and his words and not worship your God (Allah). I guess to me it just seems that the focus has long shifted from Allah to Muhammed.


And this is why I'm having the biggest concern with Islam, the fact that they are willing to kill for Muhammed's name, but doing nothing for those who insult Allah.

No, I am a Christian, but in order to educate myself better and to know the beliefs' of others, I'd like to know the key points and focuses Islam is currently having, versus what it is supposed to have.


And I don't know guys, but it truly does seems to me that it's mostly the fact that you are protecting Muhammed's good name and story and not actually educating others on Islam and what you truly believe in. For example, take Christianity: It clearly states that those who insult or persecute are only making a bigger hole for themselves to fall in because, "God blesses you when people mock you and persecute you and lie about you and say all sorts of evil things against you because you are my followers" - Matthew 5:11. Christianity responds with love and passive agressive methods versus Islam's radical protests and murders. Unlike Islam, when someone insults Christianity, we don't rage nor cause riots and stuff, we just turn the other cheek and keep moving, and getting on with our lives.

I guess a good tip is for you guys just to look at it in a different view and let Allah decide the fate of the person who insulted. I'm not too sure on how the Islamic afterlife works, but as far as I guess, there is some type of judgement and the good would go to the where the good people good, and the bad to the bad. 

Its very hard for me to explain to you if you are not muslim because you will not understand most of the things i tell you. However Muslims do not regard as the prophet muhammed pbuh more than allah swt. In Islam this is call shirk, and Shirk is the only sin that allah swt says will not be forgiven not matter who he is.
Shirk is associating someone with Allah swt (God).

In Islam Jesus pbuh known as Hazart Essa (in Islam term) and Moses pbuh are all prophets in Islam. However the Prophet Muhammed is The final prophet of Allah swt. There is no one more beloved to Allah swt than the prophet Muhammed pbuh, Islam is the Final and complete religion which teaches all mankind to live there life and to obey Allah swt.

Also Islam is very much about sacrifice, This world is just a quick life which ends very soon however the after life is eternal where you will be judged and will go to heaven or hell according to your actions in this life.

Allah swt sent the Prophet Muhammed Pbuh to the world as a mercy to Mankind so when we repent to Allah swt we always use the name of the Prophet Muhammed pbuh. This is why we are so fortunate to be from the ummah(people) of the Prophet Muhammed Pbuh, In Islam it is said that all prophets could have 1 wish and the wish of Prophet Moses was to be in Ummah of the Prophet Muhammed Pbuh, this is the status we are given already just because of the Prophet Muahmmed Pbuh, that a prophet wants to be from the Umammah of the Prophet Muahmmed pbuh. However this wish was denied as The prophet Moses pbuh already made a wish of destroying his people and the ferro at the time because they ignored Allah's message.

Also Every thursday you good deeds and sin are presented to the Prophet Muhammed Pbuh and the Prophet Muhammed Pbuh him says when I see your good deeds I smile and when I see you sins I ask forgiveness for you, This tells how much the Prophet Muhammed Cares about his ummah and Also The prophet Muahammed Pbuh said on the Day on judgement I will not rest until every single person from my ummah is out of hell.

When they say anything to us we will not really bother, when they mock us we will not really bother but when they say something about our Prophet Muhammed Pbuh or Allah swt then we will reply.

I hope that tells you that muslims do not regard the Prophet muhammed pbuh more than allah swt.

[FastSh00T]

If a muslim would make an anti Christian movie, we would tolerate it, but if we make an anti Muslim video Muslims start rioting... Yea, those people react better!

I bet if you made a movie where Jesus was constantly sinning and demeaned as a false prophet with no significance other than leading a group of "misfit religionists", then those who strongly believe in Christianity would become angry too.

Not religious Christians only. We, as Muslims believe that Essa (AKA "Jesus) is another prophet just like Mohamed. If you make fun of him then It's equal to making fun of Mohamed. Once again, we believe in ALL prophets and messengers that also includes Moussa (Moses) and the rest of them ever since the creation of earth. And don't think western Christians are the only out there on the entire planet. The Egyptian church was on our side during these events and apologized for Muslims.

[Ragdoll]

Just leaving this here, for those who still feel it is a must to sh*t on Islam.

"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher."

Read these if you please.

[Sweeper]

PESHAWAR: A Pakistani federal minister has announced a bounty of $100,000 on the maker of the American film “Innocence of Muslims” disrespecting the Holy Prophet (PBUH), DawnNews reported.

Speaking here at a press conference on Saturday, the Federal Minister for Railways Ghulam Ahmed Bilour said that he was aware that it was a crime to instigate the people for murder, but he was ready to commit the crime. He added that there was no way to instill fear among blasphemers other than taking this step.

The minister also called on members of the Taliban and al Qaeda for their support, saying that if members of the banned militant organisations kill the maker of the blasphemous movie, they will also be rewarded.


Isn't this fucking insane?

[Dave]

verily god is the greatest and he is one,  no one create him he did not create himself he do not have son or family he is allah he is most fair and wise and merciful
peace be upon mohammed the messenger of allah

So...where did he come from?

[Alan.Wake]

So...where did he come from?

Obviously, God - the real God, must be eternal and not have to be created.

[Dave]

Obviously, God - the real God, must be eternal and not have to be created.

Something cannot just...exist and be there.

[Alan.Wake]

Certainly we can't comprehend the nature of the one who created the universe.

" Everything in the universe belongs to Him. Who then, could intercede between Him and his creatures without His Permission? He Knows everything about them and they have no knowledge except as He wills"

[SugarD]

Guys and girls...a religious discussion isn't what this topic is about. We all have our own beliefs and opinions, and we should respect one another's...but we also shouldn't push it upon others when we express and explain them. Some may feel offended, and others may just try to argue it back.

Let's not fight, but instead work together. This may be a topic of touchy subjects, but we can still discuss them peacefully without arguing, should we choose...

What resolutions to the incidents do you think we should seek and obtain? How can the issues be resolved without further violence? Is there a way to mend the broken peace?

[duffman]

Now Pakistani minister announces $100,000 on head of anti-Islam film producer....