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War with Iran is imminent, says the media.

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Reply #105 on: November 12, 2012, 09:52:48 pm
Don't get me started about USA having more carriers than Russia tenfold.... and ultimately superior aircraft in general.
Aircraft Carriers:
Giant floating citys that allow the enemy to wipe out 3,000 of their enemy in one go with a single missile/submarine. :poke:

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Reply #106 on: November 12, 2012, 10:44:15 pm
Aircraft Carriers:
Giant floating citys that allow the enemy to wipe out 3,000 of their enemy in one go with a single missile/submarine. :poke:
>single missile

I say again, air superiority, not saying about AA systems

>submarine

You seriously think they never considered this when crafting it?

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Reply #107 on: November 12, 2012, 10:58:28 pm
>single missile

I say again, air superiority, not saying about AA systems

>submarine

You seriously think they never considered this when crafting it?
Of course they consider them, but theres not anything I've heard of that can detect or stop a submarine, and maybe not 1 missile, but a ship can't deal with multipul missiles, all I'm saying is America's aircraft carriers would be the biggest target, and they'd end up losing some if not all of them in a modern world war.

I'll be honest, I'm sick of hearing people talk about how 'elite' and 'advanced' America is, truth is they just trying to have more ships/jets then everyone else because they like to think of themselves as the worlds best country when it comes to military power, and I only ever see Americans saying how good their country is, kind of like they are all big headed or something.. If aircraft carriers were really that essential, don't you think China, with the worlds biggest economy would have some?

You only need aircraft carriers if you plan on invading someone, and invading modern countries is just as difficult as defending your own no matter how many submarines, ships or troops you have, you go within 100miles of Russia with a battle ship chances are they'd blow the whole convoy to pieces, I've seen how strict they are with the light aircraft up in Alaska, a Cessna once flew into their airspace and within seconds they had a gunship helicopter flying round one of Russia's most northern islands.

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Reply #108 on: November 12, 2012, 11:00:24 pm
Let just say that the Iranian government is clever and know what it doing, unless fools like Saddam or Mubarak.



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Reply #109 on: November 12, 2012, 11:48:23 pm
Let just say that the Iranian government is clever and know what it doing, unless fools like Saddam or Mubarak.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not really a good leader. He tends to let his own, personal opinions (that usually are hostile towards USA and the west) lead him to do bad decissions. I am sure he knows what he is doing now, and got this all planned. Lets just hope the Safety Council in UN comes to a peaceful conclution.



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Reply #110 on: November 13, 2012, 03:21:17 am
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not really a good leader. He tends to let his own, personal opinions (that usually are hostile towards USA and the west) lead him to do bad decissions. I am sure he knows what he is doing now, and got this all planned. Lets just hope the Safety Council in UN comes to a peaceful conclution.

Many think the same as him, also the president is not the one with full power. Iran is already in war with the west, but not directly.



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Reply #111 on: November 13, 2012, 08:35:23 am
Many think the same as him, also the president is not the one with full power. Iran is already in war with the west, but not directly.

Of course, because the US spit a lot of $mill into Israeli economy and military every day for no particular reason except getting influence in the middle east. Israel uses the money to send rockets over to Syria and to run their apartheid system towards the Palestinians, which obviously pisses the other Arabic/Persian countries.



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Reply #112 on: November 13, 2012, 04:38:42 pm
Of course, because the US spit a lot of $mill into Israeli economy and military every day for no particular reason except getting influence in the middle east
No... America is oil hungry and will only go to war for oil..

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Reply #113 on: November 13, 2012, 07:24:56 pm
No... America is oil hungry and will only go to war for oil..

Perhaps they should invade Russia then, they'll find plenty of oil.



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Reply #114 on: November 13, 2012, 07:28:13 pm
Perhaps they should invade Russia then, they'll find plenty of oil.
Yeh, but Russia would kick them right back to where they came from.. :poke:

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Reply #115 on: November 13, 2012, 09:06:08 pm
No... America is oil hungry and will only go to war for oil..

The UK is actively deployed and helping the US in Afghanistan, what would that make em ?



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Reply #116 on: November 13, 2012, 09:13:29 pm

I'll be honest, I'm sick of hearing people talk about how 'elite' and 'advanced' America is, truth is they just trying to have more ships/jets then everyone else because they like to think of themselves as the worlds best country when it comes to military power, and I only ever see Americans saying how good their country is, kind of like they are all big headed or something.. If aircraft carriers were really that essential, don't you think China, with the worlds biggest economy would have some?


I was never pro-American, I was just telling you that they indeed have air superiority, deployment wise and, I can add, tech-wise too. Although, if you might take the fact that Russians barely show off their tech stuff, maybe they have something even more advanced just hidden underneath.

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Reply #117 on: November 13, 2012, 10:03:53 pm
The UK is actively deployed and helping the US in Afghanistan, what would that make em ?

Good allies.



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Reply #118 on: November 13, 2012, 10:15:04 pm
The UK is actively deployed and helping the US in Afghanistan, what would that make em ?
Good allies.
Yes, without the UK, America has no powerful allies, thats why America's worried about Scotland possibly leaving the UK.

I was never pro-American, I was just telling you that they indeed have air superiority, deployment wise and, I can add, tech-wise too. Although, if you might take the fact that Russians barely show off their tech stuff, maybe they have something even more advanced just hidden underneath.
Thats the way I see it, countrys like Russia, China, North Korea and so on are never seen blabbing about how good they are, instead they develop their military machines and keep them secret, or just on the down low... Where as if America makes a new jet, they try to make it known world wide, have you ever heard the saying 'Its the quiet ones you should be scared of' - Not the ones who show off and run their mouths.. ;)

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Reply #119 on: December 02, 2012, 09:53:50 am
Thats the way I see it, countrys like Russia, China, North Korea and so on are never seen blabbing about how good they are, instead they develop their military machines and keep them secret, or just on the down low... Where as if America makes a new jet, they try to make it known world wide, have you ever heard the saying 'Its the quiet ones you should be scared of' - Not the ones who show off and run their mouths.. ;)

Yes, that is compleatly true!

By the way, a perfect example is the following:

I am a GREAT fan of guns, weapons, airplanes, WEAPONRY at all.  I dont think there was a weapon that i didnt hear about. Anyway, my fathers friend was atasche in Russia, for Russian military. All military requests, actions, ANYTHING related to that went trough him.

That guy brought up a secret Russian project that was unknown to the world for more than 40 YEARS!

It was a rocket powered torpedo. The way it works is that it uses compressed air to create an air pocket around the torpedo, and the propultion is like in an ordinary rocket. So therefore that torpedo is moving MUCH MUCH faster since it is flying in air, while still under water!

How brilliant is that?! MY POINT IS anyway that Russians are as you said MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better at holding the military secrets! Who knows what kind of hellish weapon they got...

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