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Should all American Citizens be allowed to carry guns? (US Elections)

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People should be able to carry a gun for self-protection, but it needs to be a civilized society ie. Switzerland.



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You shouldn't have made this topic.
Obviously some individuals here don't use their brains before posting.

If you want my say on it;
Hell no.
America has a shitload of citizens, and if everyone would have a gun it would be an uncontrollable chaos.
Don't give me that self protection bs either. Guns are only used for crime by civilians over there.

Gun Control.... when was the last time criminals followed laws? As Gandalf explained, attempting to control & confiscate firearms will NOT be pretty.

The only way to properly 'control' guns is by the person that legally owns a firearm and is trained for it. Those you hear all the times in the news, about shootings, is done by the criminals and those who is ignorant on safety.

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Honestly, no.



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Ah, those who do not understand American law.

Yes, many agree there should be much stricter regulations on gun laws in our country, I being one of them. However the 2nd amendment is part of the bill of rights meaning that no law or alteration can be made to it that removes or hinders the rights unless deemed necessary for an individual (I.E Terrorist, Convicted Criminals). It is not a matter of can we, we can't. A few years ago Washington DC tried to ban handguns from the D.C area and the United States Supreme Court overruled the law and shot it down as it was "A violation of the bill of rights".

While its true the bill of rights were drafted and written in a period of time where automatic and even semi-automatic weapons were not around, and mass-shooting sprees were not a problem. Over the years many visions and ideas never before presented became affected by the change of the world. The ideals and motives behind the constitution were not suitable anymore, amendments had to be made. But these first 10, the bill of rights, can not be. This is the unfortunate part of the powerful system we have and sure many may criticize it, but it is aimed to protect the american citizen.

My idea, on guns is that simple handguns and hunting rifles are fine to own as long as it is registered and is kept safely away from children and teens. Semi automatic (AK,AR-15, ETC) should not be permitted UNLESS it is a private, indoor and secure gun club and can only be used on training targets and these weapons should remain locked within the property. This is the only legitimate purpose for them, you aren't going to hunt deer with a AR-15. Tactical Weapons/Full Auto weapons should be banned  entirely other than for specialized law enforcement (I.E SWAT/F.B.I SWAT & HRT).



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I say no. If the citizens want more protection, then recruit more officers. No weapons. Because this will end up in shootouts again, and again, and again.



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Why does every American want/need a gun? Theres self defence and theres patheticness, I'de rather go ninja style with a 5inch blade. :lol:

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Why does every American want/need a gun? Theres self defence and theres patheticness, I'de rather go ninja style with a 5inch blade. :lol:

So you would use a 5 inch knife as self defence? That would be breaking the law if it was in public.  :roll:

http://www.bkcg.co.uk/guide/law.html



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So you would use a 5 inch knife as self defence? That would be breaking the law if it was in public.  :roll:

http://www.bkcg.co.uk/guide/law.html

We are talking about the US here, not UK  :D



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My idea, on guns is that simple handguns and hunting rifles are fine to own as long as it is registered and is kept safely away from children and teens.

That's how it is in the UK currently. Although most people with licenses for firearms are farmers or "outdoor industry" owners who use them for pest control/hunting. I know someone who owns a fishery who owns a rifle and a shotgun...he is also licensed to have a "higher" caliber of weapon due to him being an ex anti terror and firearms police officer.

I would expand on your idea and say that anyone wanting to own a firearm would have to be, as Elite suggested, trained and licensed to use the weapon, with a hefty fee to pay to obtain the license to restrict everyone and their grandma(literally) buying gun licensed. 



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Gun Control.... when was the last time criminals followed laws? As Gandalf explained, attempting to control & confiscate firearms will NOT be pretty.

The only way to properly 'control' guns is by the person that legally owns a firearm and is trained for it. Those you hear all the times in the news, about shootings, is done by the criminals and those who is ignorant on safety.
Yes, give guns to the people who can cause even more damage with them.



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Ah, those who do not understand American law.

Yes, many agree there should be much stricter regulations on gun laws in our country, I being one of them. However the 2nd amendment is part of the bill of rights meaning that no law or alteration can be made to it that removes or hinders the rights unless deemed necessary for an individual (I.E Terrorist, Convicted Criminals). It is not a matter of can we, we can't. A few years ago Washington DC tried to ban handguns from the D.C area and the United States Supreme Court overruled the law and shot it down as it was "A violation of the bill of rights".

While its true the bill of rights were drafted and written in a period of time where automatic and even semi-automatic weapons were not around, and mass-shooting sprees were not a problem. Over the years many visions and ideas never before presented became affected by the change of the world. The ideals and motives behind the constitution were not suitable anymore, amendments had to be made. But these first 10, the bill of rights, can not be. This is the unfortunate part of the powerful system we have and sure many may criticize it, but it is aimed to protect the american citizen.

My idea, on guns is that simple handguns and hunting rifles are fine to own as long as it is registered and is kept safely away from children and teens. Semi automatic (AK,AR-15, ETC) should not be permitted UNLESS it is a private, indoor and secure gun club and can only be used on training targets and these weapons should remain locked within the property. This is the only legitimate purpose for them, you aren't going to hunt deer with a AR-15. Tactical Weapons/Full Auto weapons should be banned  entirely other than for specialized law enforcement (I.E SWAT/F.B.I SWAT & HRT).

Yes, times has changed, but the basic ideals behind this shouldn't have to. The 2nd Amendment isn't just for the right to bear arms, as well as individual protection, but to protect themselves from an invasion or the event that the government becomes destructive toward their freedoms.

The only thing that matters about the regulations of firearms is that citizens should be taught about properly controlling these firearms, and thus teaching to next generation and so on.

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Number of Privately Owned Firearms:
The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in the United States is 270,000,0001

Rate of Civilian Firearm Possession per 100 Population:
The rate of private gun ownership in the United States is 88.82 firearms per 100 people

Number of Privately Owned Firearms - World Ranking:
In a comparison of the number of privately owned guns in 178 countries, the United States ranked at No. 1

Rate of Privately Owned Firearms per 100 Population - World Ranking:
In a comparison of the rate of private gun ownership in 179 countries, the United States ranked at No. 1

Number of Military Firearms:
The defence forces of the United States are reported to have 3,054,5533 firearms

Number of Law Enforcement Firearms:
Police in the United States are reported to have 897,4004 firearms
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http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states

Post Merge: September 25, 2012, 10:41:35 pm
Yes, give guns to the people who can cause even more damage with them.

Yes, give tools to the people who can cause even more damage with them. (vehicles, construction tools, baseball bats, golf clubs, kitchen knives, etc).

Where must we go... we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?


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Yes, give tools to the people who can cause even more damage with them. (vehicles, construction tools, baseball bats, golf clubs, kitchen knives, etc).
LOL, are you seriously comparing tools with firearms? :rofl:



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Yes, I like guns.



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LOL, are you seriously comparing tools with firearms? :rofl:

A firearm is a tool.

tool/toÍžol/
Noun:   
A device or implement, esp. one held in the hand, used to carry out a particular function.



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LOL, are you seriously comparing tools with firearms? :rofl:

Yes, I did. You're not getting the point.

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