U.S. Soldier Survives Taliban Machine Gun Fire During Firefight

[Mikal]

Mikal is right here.
America invests an immense amount of money in training of US Marines / army etc.
People calling this failure a hero are either too patriotic or blinded.

Finally! Someone who doesn't just go 'Oh hey a soldier, he's doing a great thing for his country and deserves to be called a hero' - Not all soldiers are great, theres been claims of US soldiers shooting random civilians dead, raping/attacking women, and this soldier was just being idiotic, thank you Crook.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

Not all soldiers are great, theres been claims of US soldiers shooting random civilians dead, raping/attacking women

Yeah true.
Also soldiers throwing animals of cliffs and sick shit like that.

[Wolfe]

Finally! Someone who doesn't just go 'Oh hey a soldier, he's doing a great thing for his country and deserves to be called a hero' - Not all soldiers are great, theres been claims of US soldiers shooting random civilians dead, raping/attacking women, and this soldier was just being idiotic, thank you Crook.

Sorry but I don't see that soldier shooting civilians or killing animals.
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I'm not calling him a hero, what I don't agree is with you saying he was acting idiotic in a shitty ass moment, why ? Because I dare any of you could do anything better than he did, and as a matter of fact, his actions may have saved the live of others, by moving forward and shooting back at the enemy, he drew fire from the rest of his squad, which managed to provide suppresing fire back and have a moment to think a next action, he managed to get his squad from getting suppresed by an MG that was shooting from 300 meters way, his actions may have not been the best, but a shitty situations require desperate actions, not all soldiers are great, no, but this one didn't do shit that would made you call him that, infact, his only actions we're of bravery from getting shot, managing to keep moving and helping his squad as he saw fit, Noone called him a hero, but calling him a douche is just being a unrespectfull asshole.


again, it's very easy to judge someone actions when you're behind your little computer acting all tough guy on the internet, but I doubt any of us could of done better, This generation is too used with their little CoD minds, that getting shot in the face repeatedly has no emotional effect on you, some people really need to get off their computers a little bit more and remember how is life outside, and how none of you can walk 5 kilometers with a shit ton of equipment in the back, get shot and manage to return fire.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

^ Saving lifes by invading a country.
Ok.

[Y2JFaN]

^ Saving lifes by invading a country.
Ok.

Thats besides the point. Regardless of whether or not USA should be there (Which I'm sure you are an expert of knowledge in, or so you act like), he (himself) and his soldier mates (them) are saved or given an easier route of exit by causing a distraction. His method is not the best but in his situation it was enough to work (despite a few close calls, those of which he was sure he was risking the moment he signed up) and do as he planned, act as a distraction. So don't bring up the 'US Should not be there' bullshit because it is not a real argument in this situation.

Yeah true.
Also soldiers throwing animals of cliffs and sick shit like that.

Few sad sacks of people, and thats not just by US, there are so many corrupt people who are misfit soldiers, to blame the US as a whole (or the whole Army) for a few sick incidents is silly.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

not a real argument in this situation.

his actions may have saved the live of others

[Y2JFaN]

Thats besides the point. Regardless of whether or not USA should be there (Which I'm sure you are an expert of knowledge in, or so you act like), he (himself) and his soldier mates (them) are saved or given an easier route of exit by causing a distraction. His method is not the best but in his situation it was enough to work (despite a few close calls, those of which he was sure he was risking the moment he signed up) and do as he planned, act as a distraction. So don't bring up the 'US Should not be there' bullshit because it is not a real argument in this situation.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

What?

[Wolfe]

Saved the lives of others, aka, his fellow squad members.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

Saved the lives of others, aka, his fellow squad members.

You really think he has done that?

[John_Goldman]

^ Saving lifes by invading a country.
Ok.

Yes, Al Qaeda is much weaker now, therefore, innocent lives are saved.


And Mikal, why are you taking all your anger out on this U.S soldier when soldiers from the U.K are doing the exact same thing, do you hate your own soldiers too ??? You just magically assume it's only the U.S over there? Countries you'd never think are over there ensuring that no more terrorist attacks happen again. You'd be very surprised on how many countries are really involved in the middle east.


    NATO: A contingent of around 150 advisers under the separate command NATO Training Mission - Iraq-(withdrawn 12/11)
     United States: 150,000 invasion 165,000 peak-(withdrawn 12/11)
     United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion (withdrawn 5/11)
     Australia: 2,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
     Romania: 730 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/09)
     El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
     Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
     Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
     Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
     Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     Singapore: 175 offshore (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
     Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
     Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
     Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
     Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
     Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
     Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
     Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
     Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Hell, there are some countries I haven't even heard of fighting over there.

And that's not even it.
So, I'm not exactly sure why you're only ranting on the U.S, why aren't you ranting on Latvia ??

[Y2JFaN]

You really think he has done that?

Yes. IF not saved, then made easier or safer. He was obviously in a group with others and he risked himself, sending himself out there to distract the gun fire to himself, allowing the others to get an easier escape or route.

[Kirgiz]

And Who the f**k said that Mikal? Quote someone who said he is a hero because he is a soldier?

Objection.
He didn't claim he was called a hero because he is a soldier. You are showing off your reading skills there with a pint.

And about people who called him hero:

Go to this page and press CTRL + F, type in hero, look especially on the earliest pages.

[Wolfe]

Please tell me more about your past experiences in warfare, because I'm too CoD kid to understand you.

basically your view on everyone who rightfully bashed that soldier. you are right that people are not right calling him an idiot but you are not right with saying that they are not right, because how right can you be if you haven't experienced anything yourself OR you outrightfully show you base opinions about people OVER THE INTERNET.


Post Merge: October 05, 2012, 12:46:03 pmObjection.
He didn't claim he was called a hero because he is a soldier. You are showing off your reading skills there with a pint.

And about people who called him hero:

Go to this page and press CTRL + F, type in hero, look especially on the earliest pages.

Yes you are right, I have not experienced anything like this, that is why I said "I doubt any of US could of done better", I did not experience World War 2 to know I should respect any soldier that fought in it;

Pretty much Innocent untill prove guilty applies here, I respect any soldier, be it Taliban, be it American, that is fighting for their cause, untill they do something that is fucked up and cruel, and as long as I can tell, that soldier only risked his own life, which in my book is ok.

[Huntsman]

Atleast the guy was ready to sacrifice for something, to safe his friends, while you are doing nothing, wasting your life, sitting in front of your monitor, playing very sinister and clever, criticizing him of his absurd act.

If you wouldnt die for something, then you're not capable of living.