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on: December 26, 2012, 06:09:21 pm
I mean this with politeness and not anger or rage. Please hear me out.

I know you're angry about the DDOS Woka is doing. But what you said was not right.
I'm not going to quote or mention what you said, just to spread hate around. But think about what you wrote over there. If anybody else wrote it anywhere, it would have been a straight ban, wouldn't it? You wrote that in anger, but it's something very bad. The least you could do was apologize for all the Muslims who are part of the Argonath Community. :)

Again, I do not mean to spread hate or anger. But I do write this with peace and love.
Some Muslims may be bad. But not all Muslims are bad. It's not their religion, it's their actions. :)


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Reply #1 on: December 26, 2012, 06:10:28 pm
Use PM function...




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Reply #2 on: December 26, 2012, 06:11:35 pm
Use PM function...

All right. I will. Please remove this if possible.

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Reply #3 on: December 26, 2012, 06:12:36 pm
Uhhh im muslim...



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Reply #4 on: December 26, 2012, 06:14:59 pm
PM Functions exists.



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Reply #5 on: December 26, 2012, 07:11:35 pm
Dear James,

Note that I did not say he is a Muslim, as someone with his habits can not be one.
I did say he has a Muslim name, which is a fact.
Also being Russian I am very familiar with the habits of groups of people from different areas, and unfortunately the habits this guy displays are very much part of a cultural group found in the Middle East and North of Africa.
Regardless of their faith, their background and upbringing makes them believe that unless they are punished strongly they can do whatever they feel like.

I am not racist in any way, as all people for me are equally capable of good and bad. I am however very aware of cultural background that make people behave in different ways. Expressing that is not racism, but realism.

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Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 07:20:00 pm
Dear Gandalf,

When I saw the comment you wrote about Woka... It wasn't directed just to him, but to all the muslims in Argonath..
That's how I felt when I read it. If the comment was meant for 1 person, it should be for that person alone and should not be directed to particular group.

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Reply #7 on: December 26, 2012, 07:22:32 pm
Dear James,

Note that I did not say he is a Muslim, as someone with his habits can not be one.
I did say he has a Muslim name, which is a fact.
Also being Russian I am very familiar with the habits of groups of people from different areas, and unfortunately the habits this guy displays are very much part of a cultural group found in the Middle East and North of Africa.
Regardless of their faith, their background and upbringing makes them believe that unless they are punished strongly they can do whatever they feel like.

I am not racist in any way, as all people for me are equally capable of good and bad. I am however very aware of cultural background that make people behave in different ways. Expressing that is not racism, but realism.
In fact gandalf is right, James, i am a Muslim too... i read what gandalf posted. At the First place i felt bad, but i read it more carefully and infact then it made sense to me, gandalf is not showing Racism towards Muslim but he was just Telling he has a Muslim name.(DELETED THIS PART DIDN'T MAKE SENSE)


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Reply #8 on: December 26, 2012, 07:23:48 pm
Dear Gandalf,

When I saw the comment you wrote about Woka... It wasn't directed just to him, but to all the muslims in Argonath..
That's how I felt when I read it. If the comment was meant for 1 person, it should be for that person alone and should not be directed to particular group.
How you read it is your business. I have explained my background, and I do not care if people are Muslim, Christian, Hindu or atheist. Christian and Jewish people from the Middle East act just the same, it does not depend on any religion.

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Reply #9 on: December 26, 2012, 07:26:33 pm
James you can use pm for it  :)

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Reply #10 on: December 26, 2012, 07:27:18 pm
How you read it is your business. I have explained my background, and I do not care if people are Muslim, Christian, Hindu or atheist. Christian and Jewish people from the Middle East act just the same, it does not depend on any religion.
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Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 07:27:46 pm
By the way, Muslims arnt a race.. :poke:

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Reply #12 on: December 26, 2012, 07:29:01 pm
It's funny you guys you don't even understand what he did really say and it's really funny to see Woka turn you guys against your own Community Leader. Everytime i come form work, or unversity i like to relax on playing Argonath been doing that for years, the moment this guy shows up and  starts DDOS'in and Ban-evading and ruins everyones fun and you expect us to behave in a civilized way, i would be form his country i would be ashamed of some of our people's mentality and no, i would never support him.
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Reply #13 on: December 26, 2012, 07:31:21 pm
In fact gandalf is right, James, i am a Muslim too... i read what gandalf posted. At the First place i felt bad, but i read it more carefully and infact then it made sense to me, gandalf is not showing Racism towards Muslim but he was just Telling he has a Muslim name, and Gandalf, you said "terrorism is in his blood" mind explaining me that, that sounded like all Muslim blood is dirty
As said it has not to do with being Muslim, but the cultural background.
The culture is to overlook any sins from children, and give them whatever they repeatedly nag for. It is also based on a strange sense of honour, as all women are hookers, except your mother and sisters who are holy.
Finally it is violent towaqrds anyone that may have insulted or offended anyone within the family or friends.
This is not limited to Muslims, as the Christian and Atheist groups from the areas in Russia have exactly the same habits.
It is probably linked to the (until recent) tribal and nomadic habits, where the family clan was at war with any other who came to their territory and were taught young that they must fight outsiders for their survival.

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Reply #14 on: December 26, 2012, 07:32:44 pm
As said it has not to do with being Muslim, but the cultural background.
The culture is to overlook any sins from children, and give them whatever they repeatedly nag for. It is also based on a strange sense of honour, as all women are hookers, except your mother and sisters who are holy.
Finally it is violent towaqrds anyone that may have insulted or offended anyone within the family or friends.
This is not limited to Muslims, as the Christian and Atheist groups from the areas in Russia have exactly the same habits.
It is probably linked to the (until recent) tribal and nomadic habits, where the family clan was at war with any other who came to their territory and were taught young that they must fight outsiders for their survival.
Thanks Gandalf, i got what you are trying to say...and Happy Birthday once again <3


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