Hunter/Hydra usage

[CBFasi]

In this case, the suspect was spotted on a boat, that gives clearance to engage as ARPD has no armed watercraft.  The fact that the individuals concerned got off the boat is irrelevant, they had been on the boat seconds before.

I had also been tracking down this group of suspects from Emerald Isle Car Park LV, they had gone across a large part of the map before I even found them, in fact some of the others had managed to escape in this time.  I had already had to return to change Hunter for Hydra as the Hunter did not have the speed to catch them.
I had intention just to track down but as there was no other police presence in the area there was no other option, especially as prior experience hinted I would of been shot out of the sky... (like happened about an hour earlier)

You was actually in the water when I fired first, having just got off the boat to climb up the ladder onto the ship.
There was no other options at the time of finding the suspects, they where clearly trying to run even with the obvious presence of a ARPD Air Unit

Giving up would of protected you, it freezes suspects so they cannot be hurt, I personally scripted that feature in...

Anyone who thinks getting out of a boat or plane will stop a Hydra or Hunter engaging are wrong.... you have already forfeited that, your ONLY LAWFUL option is to surrender, of course you can engage, some do win...

[Acika]

Since everyone who can use hydra/hunter have different opinions about their usage, it would be nice from all of you to have and to state same opinions about usage. That's why there should be rules not guidelines which everyone understands on their own way.
Then in wont come to missunderstandings where one says i wouldnt shoot him and another says i would.

You could have landed, you saw im alone, low on HP, nowhere to run or hide. Also there is PD boat 100 meters away from the ship.

Hydra/Hunter should be last option in killing suspect(s).

Example: Player is flying with heli, plane or jetpack.
How to stop them?: Get a dodo/beagle, partner, M4 and shoot them down. If player is driving shamal or some faster plane than dodo/beagle then it's the time to call hydra.
Water and ground units should follow player too.

 :ps: When im on duty, last i want is hydra/hunter to come, to kill everyone and to stop all the fun of the game. I would take that as humiliation towards myself because im uncapable to catch someone without overpowered vehicles.

[Khm]

There are NO RULES to Hydra and Hunter usage on the server. There are GUIDELINES, that do not HAVE to be followed.

If CBF wants to use Hunter Minigun on someone for smoking weed in public, he can.

he can get minigun for smoking weed in public place  :trust: ?

[CBFasi]

Since everyone who can use hydra/hunter have different opinions about their usage, it would be nice from all of you to have and to state same opinions about usage. That's why there should be rules not guidelines which everyone understands on their own way.
Then in wont come to missunderstandings where one says i wouldnt shoot him and another says i would.

I knew you would not read what I wrote, and also knew that no matter what I said to you in game that you would carry on...

I will say yet again ...

There will no NO RULES on Hydra/Hunter usage, especially to be made public... there are guidelines which I set up when they got introduced, these actually got RELAXED due to circumstances that criminals introduced and thsi relaxation was not me, in fact I was not even with the server at the time.

The number of times criminals complain about SAPD work and quote rules proves exactly why there should NOT be rules.
ARPD and SAPD cannot operate if they are restricted by rules that criminals know well enough to know exactly how to abuse that knowledge, such as jumping off a boat cos they think as since they are on foot they cannot be engaged by a hunter/hydra..  Such as saying they surrender, yet then run off who then say 'they lied'.  This happens often enough to even get admins involved now ..

Sorry but I am fed up with this sad attitude, if there was less abuse of knowledge then maybe criminals could be dealt with by normal means instead of us having to resort to heavier equipment.

EACH pilot has their own interpretations of these guidelines and that is pilot choice..

I assess each situation, and most the time I try for disablement, or to encourage a change of route, maybe towards ground units that are still catching up.  If there are NO other units near and I believe that there is a risk of failing in the role of law enforcement then I will take ANY means available.

We can be fair with you, if your fair with us, but all too often there is a win win attitude for all sides. 

[Acika]

I very well red what you and other who got access wrote.

What i heard from you is totally different thing than i heard from others.
Your rule is there are no rules. You can shoot everyone, every time, everywhere, immediately without any warnings, no matter is someone on foot, swimming, driving, if hes alone with 1HP or with 10 armed people.

Now i understand some things much better.

Acika Luciano

[Boromir]

I very well red what you and other who got access wrote.

What i heard from you is totally different thing than i heard from others.
Your rule is there are no rules. You can shoot everyone, every time, everywhere, immediately without any warnings, no matter is someone on foot, swimming, driving, if hes alone with 1HP or with 10 armed people.

Now i understand some things much better.

Acika Luciano

Learn to read carefully first?

[Acika]

If you ask me, topic can be locked.

I hope others learned something from this too.

Sincerely,

Acika Luciano

[Dexter]

I hope others learned something from this too.

Your hidden sarcasm is almost good if it was not inspired by revenge.