Is this right?

[zater112]

He is.
I know how much servers cost, and I know how we would improve things if we received USD 8000 in donations per year.
If you want to know: for $750 per month we can run 3 Xeon servers with 32Gb RAM and 4TB space in Raid1, and add a hardware Cisco firewall it dynamic IP routing to stop any DDOS attacks. or use 5 to 6 smaller servers.
This way we could add about 10 extra games, expand the site and forums and still have capacity extra.
So whatever he TELLS you he is paying, I would like to see him put up an honest financial report like we do.

Go ahead ask him yourself.
And atleast he has a anticheat program on the server

[Servius]

Go ahead ask him yourself.
And atleast he has a anticheat program on the server

Well here admins are capable to recognize hacks and players whom do so, they don't need some programs to tell them, they're not that stupid as admins on that "server". Also if you don't like it here, why don't you leave?

[midget]

Well here admins are capable to recognize hacks and players whom do so, they don't need some programs to tell them, they're not that stupid as admins on that "server". Also if you don't like it here, why don't you leave?

Let him be, that particular statement just confirmed his stupidity..

[Gandalf]

Go ahead ask him yourself.
And atleast he has a anticheat program on the server

We are one of the first to write anticheats, and we have one of the most advanced systems on it. However there is one difference with others: we are aware that any anticheat can create false positives, and refuse to let people be banned without reason just because of some idiots who can not play fair.

Oh and when I was talking about Eur 10.000 that is the money we paid from our pockets, the total cost is a lot higher. What we receive in donations and ads does not count in that amount.

[Gandalf]

Please can i have answere of this Quote ...... ???

Getting unbanned is not a right but a priviledge.
That you might have to wait for your unban request to be handled is something you may try to think of before breaking the rules and getting banned.
Any ban on the temp server will be transferred to the main server. If you think that just because it is a temp server it is ok to get banned you are wRONg.

[Vincent_Corleone]

make me a community leader - problem solved

[Gandalf]

make me a community leader - problem solved

Yep, losing all players solves the problem too. 

[Stiven]

And Managers are coming online at forums but not looking in our unban requests why ?? ?

First of all we waited 2 weeks and now i am banned for a non-sense reason for advertising another server lol and i got banned on Argonath temp server and they are including temp server ban in real server help me ... And let me clear one thing here i didn't gave any kind of advertise in-game it was on Facebook it means out of game ....

Manager is not a robot, I'm convinced they're checking unban request everyday. This is not a place to gripe, admin is not dumb to ban people for no apparent reasons. Just because it was temp server doesn't mean you can do everything arbitrarily. Now, just get back on the topic. It's not unban appeal.

[Devin]

The temporary server bears the communities name which means it is a part of the community, just because it was a "temporary" server does not mean you may misbehave.

[Shejken]

Can't agree more,plus that admins take actions on players before they hear the whole story,i mean if he sees someone attacking someone then he punishes him/her for deathmatching,but in fact they were rping a street fight.
Argonath needs more topics like this because most of new players think that admins are always right,but we all know that it's not true.

I can give you an answer as former admin.

There are around 23 178 players registered on this forum, I think you can imagine how many players there are daily on ten different gaming servers. Lets plus all those visitors, who don't register on forums nor actually join the community.

About administration team, Argonath got around 70-80 members, which contains at least one-third inactive, 50 members remain. If you look the ratio of players and administrators, you may notice its almost comical.

If one percent of those daily players breaks a rule, its over 231. (1%, not 40% which is the real amount)

231 f**king stories heard, logchecks, background and investigations done, time spent 20-30 minutes per case. 5775 minutes daily.

At this point you may notice, moaning is the last thing you may do.

[Matt Murdock]

The ones that are agreeing with the above points have rather colourful punishment history in-game.  :gun:

No, Mine is clean.

But I agree with it. :p

[Mikal]

Instead of just posting "I agree", elaborate.

Players are treated differently by admins than others, for example, admins run round punching eachother for fun, but when players do it they get punished.
Certain players are punished differently depending on what groups they are in, for example someone in Rstar who drives round ramming people doesn't get punished where as someone who isnt in Rstar does, of course I just used Rstar as an example as it is a group for 'popular' players.
Theres many different scenario's for what I said above, and I've experienced it many times myself, and seen others experiencing it, however everytime I mention it, I get banned or muted, like I currently am, as some forum moderators seem to enjoy using the punishment system on very very minor things.

As a moderator has said this topic is for constructive criticism, I doubt there'd be any problem with what I've said above, as someone keeps removing alot of my posts for no real reason, or not submitting them for the sake of annoying me.

[JDC]

All those clowns who have nothing to do but post stupid shit against the community and advertise other servers should get lost.


This topic was made with the intention of directing fire at admins. The first post itself is an attempt to highlight negative incidents in the admin team, and the topic itself has attracted other cockroaches who take the opportunity to post against the administration. If anything deserves to be highlighted, it is how the admins have worked to keep the community in order, with some providing helpful updates on Facebook for our players in the absence of the Argonath network of sites.

If you really want to help solve the problems, you would have talked to the proper authorities and submitted a proper complaint instead of waving around admins' mistakes in public. Reporting admins who break rules solves the problem, making a topic complaining about them only creates more negativity.

The disguise of "constructive criticism" may have fooled others, but it isn't fooling me.

[Devin]

ok

[Nathan]

*long post here*

This. Best post. Some just don't realize what goes on in the background.
The fact that some admins use the commands to their advantage shouldn't be allowed. Case closed. Those who do, report them via the correct form, not via threads. Though you may view some admins simply sitting on their asses not doing anything, most actually do a lot of the work behind the scenes.

Remember, playing on Argonath is not a right, it is a privilege. That privilege can easily be taken away.