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Reply #90 on: April 26, 2013, 04:49:13 pm
JDC, James is trying to help the community improve, if he was here to only shit on the community, he would not do all this effort and write down that damn essay.

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Reply #91 on: April 26, 2013, 04:54:00 pm
Bring in a new feature : Guest admins.

Where randomly chosen players get to admin/moderate the server for a week (ofcourse, you must be qualified enough, like a veteran on the server, no long punishment history, and if you are caught abusing your rights, community ban ). Everyone gets to know what actually happens behind the scene.

Zero moaning from both player and admin sides.

 Problem solved.


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Reply #92 on: April 26, 2013, 05:19:57 pm
Getting unbanned is not a right but a priviledge.
That you might have to wait for your unban request to be handled is something you may try to think of before breaking the rules and getting banned.
Any ban on the temp server will be transferred to the main server. If you think that just because it is a temp server it is ok to get banned you are wRONg.

Yeah i know very well all who got banned on temp server will be transfer to permanent server but i didn't advertise anything in the server then why i got banned  ??? 

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Reply #93 on: April 26, 2013, 05:48:43 pm
Everyone gets to know what actually happens behind the scene.

Ever thought it might have been made this way for a reason?  :poke:



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Reply #94 on: April 26, 2013, 05:50:36 pm
Bring in a new feature : Guest admins.

Where randomly chosen players get to admin/moderate the server for a week (ofcourse, you must be qualified enough, like a veteran on the server, no long punishment history, and if you are caught abusing your rights, community ban ). Everyone gets to know what actually happens behind the scene.

Zero moaning from both player and admin sides.

 Problem solved.

Managers won't play with administrative rights. They won't give rights to people for 1 week or so. If you want to get admin rights, work for it.




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Reply #95 on: April 26, 2013, 06:08:11 pm
Bring in a new feature : Guest admins.

Where randomly chosen players get to admin/moderate the server for a week (ofcourse, you must be qualified enough, like a veteran on the server, no long punishment history, and if you are caught abusing your rights, community ban ). Everyone gets to know what actually happens behind the scene.

Zero moaning from both player and admin sides.

 Problem solved.

No.



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Reply #96 on: April 26, 2013, 06:08:49 pm
Bring in a new feature : Guest admins.

Where randomly chosen players get to admin/moderate the server for a week (ofcourse, you must be qualified enough, like a veteran on the server, no long punishment history, and if you are caught abusing your rights, community ban ). Everyone gets to know what actually happens behind the scene.

Zero moaning from both player and admin sides.

 Problem solved.

All or none, we are not giving out "temp rights".


All PMs saying "Look at my unban request!!11" will be ignored.

In need of assistance? Please send me a forum PM instead of contacting me ingame. Whenever i am ingame, i'm most likely busy with something else which means i wont be able to help you there and then.


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Reply #97 on: April 26, 2013, 06:09:36 pm
Yeah i know very well all who got banned on temp server will be transfer to permanent server but i didn't advertise anything in the server then why i got banned  ???
This is not your unban request. Do not expect answers on your situation here.

Do not roleplay a veteran on discord, be a veteran in game.


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Reply #98 on: April 26, 2013, 06:14:21 pm
This is not your unban request. Do not expect answers on your situation here.

I Just only want to ask 1 question

Another person advertise the server at Facebook and Zaila banned me Because he seen my name in the advertise it is in-justice or not  ??? And what is the relationship of facebook advertise with Argonath RPG ??

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Reply #99 on: April 26, 2013, 06:17:14 pm
Players are treated differently by admins than others, for example, admins run round punching eachother for fun, but when players do it they get punished.
Certain players are punished differently depending on what groups they are in, for example someone in Rstar who drives round ramming people doesn't get punished where as someone who isnt in Rstar does, of course I just used Rstar as an example as it is a group for 'popular' players.
Theres many different scenario's for what I said above, and I've experienced it many times myself, and seen others experiencing it, however everytime I mention it, I get banned or muted, like I currently am, as some forum moderators seem to enjoy using the punishment system on very very minor things.

As a moderator has said this topic is for constructive criticism, I doubt there'd be any problem with what I've said above, as someone keeps removing alot of my posts for no real reason, or not submitting them for the sake of annoying me.
For admins, managers and scripters the same rules apply as to players.
In fact we require them to be even more strict on the rules, as they have an example function for players.
As for certain groups being punished more or less than others, the rules apply to all. However due to their reputation and the way they manage their members, some groups will be given the opportunity to explain their actions more than others. A group known for being on the edge of the rules will be handled more strict.

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Reply #100 on: April 26, 2013, 06:18:57 pm
Bring in a new feature : Guest admins.

Where randomly chosen players get to admin/moderate the server for a week (ofcourse, you must be qualified enough, like a veteran on the server, no long punishment history, and if you are caught abusing your rights, community ban ). Everyone gets to know what actually happens behind the scene.

Zero moaning from both player and admin sides.

 Problem solved.
In general it takes more than one week to properly train a moderator. There for it is not possible.

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Reply #101 on: April 26, 2013, 06:20:34 pm
I Just only want to ask 1 question

Another person advertise the server at Facebook and Zaila banned me Because he seen my name in the advertise it is in-justice or not  ??? And what is the relationship of facebook advertise with Argonath RPG ??
This is not the place to discuss your unban. Any further questions in this topic will increase your ban time by 1 week per post.

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Reply #102 on: April 26, 2013, 06:26:51 pm
This is not the place to discuss your unban. Any further questions in this topic will increase your ban time by 1 week per post.


Okay i stoped here i won't discuss anything ....Sorry if i said anything wrong

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Reply #103 on: April 26, 2013, 06:38:22 pm
Okay i stoped here i won't discuss anything ....Sorry if i said anything wrong

Took you long enough to realize. A wise man requires only one instruction.



JDC, James is trying to help the community improve, if he was here to only shit on the community, he would not do all this effort and write down that damn essay.

I could just as easily start a campaign of character assassination against the administration under the start of "constructive criticism". You seem to be under the presumption that shitting on the community and/or administration is exclusive to a certain variety of forms.

If you truly want to help this community, you will devote your effort to help solving the problems. The way to do that is to report those admins who are in the wrong to their superiors, so that we in the Management can see to it that they continue to abide by the same rules that they enforce. Waving around and calling attention to their mistakes in public is NOT the solution, and is still a form of public complaining.

It's not that hard to understand, you can also WORK to make this community better, instead of sitting on ass and making topics about whoever.



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Everyone gets to know what actually happens behind the scene.

Zero moaning from both player and admin sides.

Your ideas are terrible and full of presumptions. I recommend you research on how the admin team actually works (or at least, the non-secure information abuot it) before proposing reforms.

Admin posts are classified for security reasons. Revealing them all will make it impossible for us to launch any proper investigation.

The most important part is interacting with others and meeting people from around the world.

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Reply #104 on: April 26, 2013, 08:20:10 pm
Ever thought it might have been made this way for a reason?  :poke:
Just don't give them forum rights and stuff?  :poke:

This can actually be a good way to know who is suitable for working as an administrator too, instead of the applications system.

One or two + year old veterans might actually be smart enough to set into the moderator roles quite quick, no?

I'm not talking of giving everyone a chance to become an admin, but only elite people.

I'm not going to name anyone out of the player base but admins and ex admins, just for example.

Lets say, Jcstodds, Shejken and Frank Hawk have been playing since 3 years, they always help players on the server, and never broke a rule. What might be wrong in giving them guest admin rights for a week or so?



 


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