What to do when RHL expires

[Salmonella]

The 'used to have' is still present. and enforcing one rule is not going to change that. The reason we become stricter on enforcement lies in the current day behaviour on server, not in memories of long ago.

If these regulations about (un)suspection will actually start to take effect in reality, then of course, there will still be a lot of freedom in Argonath, but it's just not total freedom like it was when they didn't get enforced. I mean, if I would try to escape the cops on my Freeway motorcycle with another Angel of Death sitting on the back with a submachinegun for obvious reasons, we would stick to that roleplay scenario until we have both succesfully escaped or faced another fate. This would mean that we would at one point have one 'suspect' and someone who isn't wanted. From that point it can go either way. If a cop shows up, the guy with the white name would get resuspected, and we would have to start escaping all over again. If a cop doesn't show up, we will eventually escape.

I'm telling this, just to show you that not everyone has the mind of a copbaiter, and that even although these regulations might take care of copbaiting to an extent, they will also affect people like the Angels of Death in the above scenario. People that don't copbait and try to avoid getting wanted in the first place, but do enjoy a good gunfight or chase when it comes down to it (like everyone should, if you ask me). How in reality it will affect us is something I can't tell for sure, but once again, I predict unwanted interruptions of the roleplaying fun. I think I gave enough scenarios in previous posts about that, anyways, so I won't bore you with more.

What I also don't quite understand is why copbaiting + administration doesn't seem to be a good enough solution. In the end, starting to make it stricter will just mean the same admin work, but more of it. I won't pretend to know anything about the current day behaviour on the server (I might even get in trouble if I do ), but is there really that much copbaiting going on?

If Panda and Maxy display the behaviour for which they were often punished in the past today, they might win a RP award...

Really, is it that bad?

[TonySforza]

Really, is it that bad?

Not wanting to go off course, but it reached a state where "gang wars" are considered RP's and are done daily, multiple times a day even.

[Salmonella]

Would have to see how they'd do that. Nothing wrong with a gang war itself as far as I'm concerned. As long as it's done properly...

[TonySforza]

As long as it's done properly...

Hehe

[Def Perry]

If these regulations about (un)suspection will actually start to take effect in reality, then of course, there will still be a lot of freedom in Argonath, but it's just not total freedom like it was when they didn't get enforced. I mean, if I would try to escape the cops on my Freeway motorcycle with another Angel of Death sitting on the back with a submachinegun for obvious reasons, we would stick to that roleplay scenario until we have both succesfully escaped or faced another fate. This would mean that we would at one point have one 'suspect' and someone who isn't wanted. From that point it can go either way. If a cop shows up, the guy with the white name would get resuspected, and we would have to start escaping all over again. If a cop doesn't show up, we will eventually escape.

I'm telling this, just to show you that not everyone has the mind of a copbaiter, and that even although these regulations might take care of copbaiting to an extent, they will also affect people like the Angels of Death in the above scenario. People that don't copbait and try to avoid getting wanted in the first place, but do enjoy a good gunfight or chase when it comes down to it (like everyone should, if you ask me). How in reality it will affect us is something I can't tell for sure, but once again, I predict unwanted interruptions of the roleplaying fun. I think I gave enough scenarios in previous posts about that, anyways, so I won't bore you with more.

What I also don't quite understand is why copbaiting + administration doesn't seem to be a good enough solution. In the end, starting to make it stricter will just mean the same admin work, but more of it. I won't pretend to know anything about the current day behaviour on the server (I might even get in trouble if I do ), but is there really that much copbaiting going on?

Really, is it that bad?

I seem to agree with you totally here and yes, it is very bad at the moment. Someone who moaned in the main chat for re-suspection after he got spawn killed, unbelievable. And the worst part is that it succeeds too.
One of the main reasons for resigning from the police force and went to the other side is because I wanted to change this mentality here.

[Salmonella]

One of the main reasons for resigning from the police force and went to the other side is because I wanted to change this mentality here.

Now that's something worth admiration.

[TonySforza]

One of the main reasons for resigning from the police force and went to the other side is because I wanted to change this mentality here.

Thankfully, we need more groups like this http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=96492.0 on this side of the law

[Frank_Hawk]

The message seems to be lost in translation in this topic.

What is the problem statement?

[Salmonella]

What is the problem statement?

There's multiple of them on page 14 alone.

[Frank_Hawk]

There's multiple of them on page 14 alone.

I'd rather /gu instead of reading 14 pages 

[Salmonella]

I'd rather /gu instead of reading 14 pages 

It's an interesting read if you know how to filter properly. :razz:

But I meant page 14 alone, not everything that came before.

[Pandalink]

Not wanting to go off course, but it reached a state where "gang wars" are considered RP's and are done daily, multiple times a day even.

[Vincent_Corleone]

Everything here ends with shooting cops.

[Kirgiz]

Speaking about RHL expiration, I remember the times where everyone were moaning like mad because they had no choice but to either surrender or die, long before RHL script existed in RS 3.0. Look what happened now, you children bastards.

How about removing RHL script?

[Cyril]

Removing RHL will just make things worst as it'll encourage shoot out.