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Piers Morgan: No regrets over calling US gun lobby stupid

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Reply #165 on: August 09, 2013, 11:57:14 am
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Confirmed for not knowing anything about the Zimmerman case, keep gobbling up whatever the media throws at you.



Anyone who thinks Zimmerman was guilty should take the time to watch the video I just linked, it really does put things into perspective.

2. If anyone wants to kill themselves, they don't need a gun to do it. Where there is a will, there is a way.

I won't let my principles be swayed by such poor arguments.
Good find, Cero.



If they say they want to pass gun control laws & saying that we shouldn't have guns, maybe they should disarm their bodyguards too. Think about it.

If they can protect themselves, why can't we?

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Reply #166 on: August 09, 2013, 09:49:47 pm
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Confirmed for not knowing anything about the Zimmerman case, keep gobbling up whatever the media throws at you.



Anyone who thinks Zimmerman was guilty should take the time to watch the video I just linked, it really does put things into perspective.

2. If anyone wants to kill themselves, they don't need a gun to do it. Where there is a will, there is a way.

I won't let my principles be swayed by such poor arguments.
I stand corrected on the first point.

I completely support the second amendment and believe "banning" guns would not help one bit.
Let me give you an example - Australia!


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Reply #167 on: August 11, 2013, 03:53:17 am
Yes, Australia, an island where smuggling weapons in is nearly impossible.



Mexican drug cartels can smuggle weapons into the US very easily, therefore gangs can gain access to weapons very easily.



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Reply #168 on: August 11, 2013, 05:46:31 am
Yes, Australia, an island where smuggling weapons in is nearly impossible.



Mexican drug cartels can smuggle weapons into the US very easily, therefore gangs can gain access to weapons very easily.

Yes, thanks to the United States Government.

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Reply #169 on: August 11, 2013, 09:44:51 am



Any idiot can do an interview, cherry pick the bad parts about what someone said and add a quirky comment and have some fake laughs in the background.

The only thing this video shows is what level gun grabbers argue on.



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Reply #170 on: August 11, 2013, 12:29:37 pm
Any idiot can do an interview, cherry pick the bad parts about what someone said and add a quirky comment and have some fake laughs in the background.

The only thing this video shows is what level gun grabbers argue on.
Also any idiot can completely miss the point and intentionally ignore the facts and check them themselves if have to.

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Reply #171 on: August 11, 2013, 07:30:43 pm
Also any idiot can completely miss the point and intentionally ignore the facts and check them themselves if have to.

Are you seriously saying that because it worked in Australia it'll work in the United States?

Please tell me how you plan to confiscate 258 million guns from gun owners that do not want to give them away.
Oh, and how about the MILLIONS of unregistered guns? You're going to force people, who you don't know have them to register them, so you can take them away?
What about the criminals who have guns? I guess they'll give them up aswell, after all, they follow the law.




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Reply #172 on: August 15, 2013, 09:50:47 am
Are you seriously saying that because it worked in Australia it'll work in the United States?
I am not saying it would work, but not because of the people, but because how your government operates.

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Please tell me how you plan to confiscate 258 million guns from gun owners that do not want to give them away.
Oh, and how about the MILLIONS of unregistered guns? You're going to force people, who you don't know have them to register them, so you can take them away?
What about the criminals who have guns? I guess they'll give them up aswell, after all, they follow the law.

Calm down now there, although yes we started talking about "gun ban" I am actually for gun regulation rather than complete ban. I understand that Farmers may need guns to protect their cattle, Hunters need guns, Sportsmen need guns. If people want guns for self-protection, fine, let them have it, but they have to go trough safety training for the society's sake and their gun should be registered. So if you are law abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about government won't take away your guns. Tell me, is that too much to ask?

And we do not try to be real life, as why would you ever play real life if you have one ? We play the GTA universe, and our players should try to live in the GTA world, not the real one.



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Reply #173 on: August 15, 2013, 04:14:46 pm
I am not saying it would work, but not because of the people, but because how your government operates.

Calm down now there, although yes we started talking about "gun ban" I am actually for gun regulation rather than complete ban. I understand that Farmers may need guns to protect their cattle, Hunters need guns, Sportsmen need guns. If people want guns for self-protection, fine, let them have it, but they have to go trough safety training for the society's sake and their gun should be registered. So if you are law abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about government won't take away your guns. Tell me, is that too much to ask?

If you're a law abiding citizen you wouldn't protest to having cameras installed all around your house, having an RFID chip inserted in you, letting the government view your mails, etc. After all, you've got nothing to hide, right?

There is a thing called having a private life, without the government saying what you can own, what you can browse, what you can do that doesn't affect others.
Registering guns will have everyone in a national registry, which will make it easier to confiscate and ban guns later, because now you know who owns them. Letting you literally walk door to door and confiscate them.

I'm all for sensible gun ownership and healthy values when it comes to gun safety, but I don't think the government should be enforcing tighter gun control, instead they should give gun safety courses and make videos to show people how to be safe around firearms, not try to take them away.
Murder is against the law, doesn't stop people from committing it all the time. Criminals will always have a way of getting guns, even if they were banned completely.

Yes, you ARE asking for too much.



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Reply #174 on: August 15, 2013, 07:08:32 pm
If you're a law abiding citizen you wouldn't protest to having cameras installed all around your house, having an RFID chip inserted in you, letting the government view your mails, etc. After all, you've got nothing to hide, right?

There is a thing called having a private life, without the government saying what you can own, what you can browse, what you can do that doesn't affect others.
Registering guns will have everyone in a national registry, which will make it easier to confiscate and ban guns later, because now you know who owns them. Letting you literally walk door to door and confiscate them.

I'm all for sensible gun ownership and healthy values when it comes to gun safety, but I don't think the government should be enforcing tighter gun control, instead they should give gun safety courses and make videos to show people how to be safe around firearms, not try to take them away.
Murder is against the law, doesn't stop people from committing it all the time. Criminals will always have a way of getting guns, even if they were banned completely.

Yes, you ARE asking for too much.
In order for a person to drive a car, he/she has to first obtain driving license as well the car he/she is driving is in the national(state?) registry. Do you oppose that? Do you think it makes government easier to come and confiscate the population's cars?

And we do not try to be real life, as why would you ever play real life if you have one ? We play the GTA universe, and our players should try to live in the GTA world, not the real one.



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Reply #175 on: August 15, 2013, 09:53:51 pm
In order for a person to drive a car, he/she has to first obtain driving license as well the car he/she is driving is in the national(state?) registry. Do you oppose that? Do you think it makes government easier to come and confiscate the population's cars?

Driving on public roads where a high level of cooperation is required to simply get around is necessary is obviously the same as privately owning and keeping firearms.

Please tell me about the movement against cars in private ownership, you've genuinely peaked my interest.

Are you going to continue arguing like this?



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Reply #176 on: August 15, 2013, 11:44:31 pm
Driving on public roads where a high level of cooperation is required to simply get around is necessary is obviously the same as privately owning and keeping firearms.

Please tell me about the movement against cars in private ownership, you've genuinely peaked my interest.

Are you going to continue arguing like this?
If you can't drive you put people around you in danger, if you don't know how to handle a freaking gun you put people around you in danger. So tell me, why you think that one is ok to own without any safety training and other one is not.

And we do not try to be real life, as why would you ever play real life if you have one ? We play the GTA universe, and our players should try to live in the GTA world, not the real one.



 


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