Piers Morgan: No regrets over calling US gun lobby stupid

[Dutchy]

And if you try using only speech against a government that has these type of weapons that you cannot own? That's "genocide".

You know this isn't 1950, you don't live in communist russia, stalin's dead.. You do know that right? Really, if the US government wanted its people dead, ain't much you can do about it.

Not to go off topic here, but the simpsons and family guy made some solid points on guns, both they show examples of alienated communities, uncertain of their future.. After realising they don't really need any firearms, because nothing is threatning them they make the population throw theirs on a big fire and melt them to nothing. After this the simpsons make 'zombie apocalypse', causing everyone to feel like an idiot for throwing their guns away. Family guy sends 'evil stewie squid clones' onto the community, making the people feel stupid.

Now all this says is, a community doesn't need guns, until they REALLY need them... which is unlikely to ever happen in these times.

[Mikal]

You know this isn't 1950, you don't live in communist russia, stalin's dead.. You do know that right? Really, if the US government wanted its people dead, ain't much you can do about it.

Yeh because Obama just can't wait to start a civil war which would ruin the US, well actually it kind of already is ruined, major gun problems, massive debt, continuous mass wasting of money on the US military, constant borrowing. :roll:

[Reece]

Didn't Piers Morgan threatened to deport himself if gun control failed?

Keep him. We don't want him.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

Civilians cannot own a M4A1 legally without going through the proper channels (ATF) because it's fully automatic. That's why there's a civilian variation of the M4A1 called the AR-15.

Oh so now it's all cool? That state of mind you're displaying is why the situation in America is messed up.

[EliteTerm]

Oh so now it's all cool? That state of mind you're displaying is why the situation in America is messed up.

I didn't say it was all cool, I'm just stating facts in response to Jacob. What state of mind do you honestly think I have?

[Mr. Goobii]

I agree on Piers Morgan. The arguments are stupid.

[[WS]Jacob]

Keep him. We don't want him.

This guy speaks the truth. Him being in America keeps him off Britain's Got Talent. :hurray:

That doesn't stop those who want to miss-use them, from getting them, I think it was the Panorama TV programme in the UK that went to the US, bought an M4A1 and some ammo from a gun market (where different people all go sell their guns in 1 place), she didn't have to show ID or anything, just took the M4A1 in a case after paying and left the building. :roll:

I saw that. Very messed up and should be reviewed immediately. If anyone can just go to a gun show, purchase a M4 like they can a chocolate bar something is incredibly flawed. Obama says he will work to close down these "gun loopholes", I'm still waiting Barack so is the rest of America and please don't wait for another school massacre before you start thinking about doing something.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

I didn't say it was all cool, I'm just stating facts in response to Jacob. What state of mind do you honestly think I have?

You're saying, or atleast making it look like you're saying that an AR-15 resolved the gun situation.
What I want to say is that no firearm such as the AR-15 or anything that can kill should be allowed (that easily).

[Mikal]

This guy speaks the truth. Him being in America keeps him off Britain's Got Talent. :hurray:
I saw that. Very messed up and should be reviewed immediately. If anyone can just go to a gun show, purchase a M4 like they can a chocolate bar something is incredibly flawed. Obama says he will work to close down these "gun loopholes", I'm still waiting Barack so is the rest of America and please don't wait for another school massacre before you start thinking about doing something.

The loopholes will remain aslong as people can buy and sell guns. :roll:

[Dutchy]

You're saying, or atleast making it look like you're saying that an AR-15 resolved the gun situation.
What I want to say is that no firearm such as the AR-15 or anything that can kill should be allowed (that easily).

Only "logical" reason to own a civil assault rifle is for hunting large animals... Which is pretty much illegal in a crapton of places.. Also hunting is an outdated hobby which should be considered as a crime against nature.. But I ain't peta so shoot all you want.

[[WS]Jacob]

Only "logical" reason to own a civil assault rifle is for hunting large animals... Which is pretty much illegal in a crapton of places.. Also hunting is an outdated hobby which should be considered as a crime against nature.. But I ain't peta so shoot all you want.

They should be setting up game reserves and not allowing civilians to have these high capacity weapons outside of these places. It would make it safer.

[EliteTerm]

Only "logical" reason to own a civil assault rifle is for hunting large animals... Which is pretty much illegal in a crapton of places.. Also hunting is an outdated hobby which should be considered as a crime against nature.. But I ain't peta so shoot all you want.

2nd Amendment wasn't created just for hunting. As for hunting, they actually encourage hunting in order to prevent overpopulation as mentioned here and here.

[John_Goldman]

The gun control debate was ended in 1791.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

There is no debate over constitutional rights, you don't like it - you leave or quit complaining. It's not going away any time soon, in fact this whole thing as actually increased gun ownership. More people are becoming pro-gun, more states are saying federal gun laws are void. You can't infringe a constitutional right in which the people can fight back. We can't do anything to stop the federal government from spying on us, but we can stop them from taking our guns.

If you're anti-gun, that's cool. But, since you're not even from America(talking to non-americans obviously) you really can't speak on our Bill of Rights. Most countries do not have the problems we have. Britain doesn't quite have the street gangs and criminals we do. Gun control may work for you, but it can't work for us. We have actual crime - and it's common. Comparing the UK to America is just plain stupid, they are so different in so many different ways. Just to clarify, gun control may work for your country, but it can't work for ours.

[Dutchy]

2nd Amendment wasn't created just for hunting. As for hunting, they actually encourage hunting in order to prevent overpopulation as mentioned here and here.

Not JUST for hunting, but beside practise and actual usage for your own defense, hunting is the only alternative to continuously have a reason and place to shoot. Besides, overpopulation used to be a much bigger problem, but I think 200 years of US development have balanced it out pretty well..

Yes John is right, it is quite pretentious to speak about national laws and moral standards while you've nothing to do with it. I'm not judging the quality of life or the validity of law and order in the states, I'm just reviewing their contents from a realistic perspective..

Ofcourse it'll be a cold day in hell should any amendment get scrapped or overhauled, but holding on to 200 year old rationality can eventually have its toll..

[Mikal]

You can't infringe a constitutional right in which the people can fight back.

Yes because all of the armed citizens in the US are going to shoot at innocent cops who are just enforcing the law, that law possibly being to remove everyones guns.

If you're anti-gun, that's cool. But, since you're not even from America(talking to non-americans obviously) you really can't speak on our Bill of Rights.

Your gun violence effects the world, so we do have the right to speak about it, we constantly have to hear depressing stories of the latest mass shooting in the US, the last one being just last week.

Britain doesn't quite have the street gangs and criminals we do.

Difference between US and UK gangs:
US gangs = Ruthless criminals with guns.
UK gangs = Ruthless criminals with knives.
Both are criminals, both do the same shit, just knives are alot less lethal.

Gun control may work for you, but it can't work for us. We have actual crime - and it's common.

Are you trying to say the UK doesn't have 'actual crime'? And the reason gun control works for us, is because very citizen isn't armed to their teeth with guns and ammunition.

Just to clarify, gun control may work for your country, but it can't work for ours.

Yes, because you let it get out of hand.

but holding on to 200 year old rationality can eventually have its toll..

Kind of already is having it's toll. :roll: