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A question about "scamming"

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on: August 10, 2013, 04:14:59 pm
Yo,

Recently (some min ago), my friend recevied 30k ARD from another player, he got a PM that said; "Please send it back, sent it wrongly".

Then I told my friend to keep the cash as it is the other players responsibility to check the correct ID of the player he will send money too.
After a while an admin PMd my friend to give back the money, otherwise you will be banned for scamming.

And I wonder, how exactlyy can it be scamming if another player fails to send money to the correct ID and I receive it and I want to keep it.
I mean, it's not my fault that he misspelled the ID? And why shouldn't I be able to decide if I will give it back or keep it?



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Reply #1 on: August 10, 2013, 04:22:42 pm
How would you react if you sent, let's say, 500k to the wrong player and he decides to keep it?



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Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 04:23:43 pm
It is not scamming, no attempt was made to deceive or coerce, it was just an accident and you should not be banned for it. However, we will still insist you pay it back, and if you refuse we will take it from your inventory and return it to the player.

If a player keeps sending money to the wrong players, this happens sometimes with gamblers, we will likely run out of sympathy eventually.




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Reply #3 on: August 10, 2013, 06:15:13 pm
I think this could be multiaccountung and first of all what u had to do, that's pm admin for this accident!
i Guess he could go near him and send money if he really needed it, and if i'm regular player and i wire to wrong guy that 30k  i'm sure admins won't do anything..., because it's my responsibility, so why should he give that money back? A?
he can't ask someone random player to send money to other guy.!



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Reply #4 on: August 10, 2013, 06:33:29 pm
I think this could be multiaccountung and first of all what u had to do, that's pm admin for this accident!
i Guess he could go near him and send money if he really needed it, and if i'm regular player and i wire to wrong guy that 30k  i'm sure admins won't do anything..., because it's my responsibility, so why should he give that money back? A?
he can't ask someone random player to send money to other guy.!

Did you even read Kojak's post?



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Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 06:37:18 pm
But he writed that if he will not send back money, they will take from his inventory and return money back!



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Reply #6 on: August 10, 2013, 08:40:26 pm
If a player sends you money by accident, it is your duty to send it back to him.
When you do not have the courtesy to send it back if someone makes a mistake, find another server.

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Reply #7 on: August 10, 2013, 09:07:08 pm
Just to add to my answer, I said that we would remove the money from your inventory and return it to the player; however sometimes that might not be possible if a manager+ is not available, in which case you may be ordered to return it. If you are ordered to return it and refuse you may be banned so the matter can be resolved. Admins do have the authority to ban you in such a case.




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Reply #8 on: August 10, 2013, 09:08:09 pm
Ye i can decide if i want to send it back or no.If admins ask you and reject you don't need to be banned cause thats not even scamming.
Manager+ Can transfer your moneys to the person who send the money by mistake.

I have another question.
What if i get like 100k and what if i spend those moneys what is going to happen to me?

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Reply #9 on: August 10, 2013, 09:09:37 pm
I have another question.
What if i get like 100k and what if i spend those moneys what is going to happen to me?

100k will still be removed from you.




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Reply #10 on: August 10, 2013, 11:42:34 pm
Simple,
Player accidentally sends you money:
Choice 1 - Return the money
Choice 2 - Don't return the money, face getting banned and the money will still be removed from your account even if that means we put you into the negative values of money.



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Reply #11 on: August 10, 2013, 11:52:37 pm
These answers were very helpful, since I've been told otherwise before. Good to confirm!

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Reply #12 on: August 11, 2013, 12:30:45 am
What if I am sent a big amount of cash but I am currently in debt(fined due to scamming in casinos, troll lottos, etc)? I won't be able to send it back as the cash is automatically used to fill my debt.



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Reply #13 on: August 11, 2013, 12:32:03 am
What if I am sent a big amount of cash but I am currently in debt(fined due to scamming in casinos, troll lottos, etc)? I won't be able to send it back as the cash is automatically used to fill my debt.

We will still remove that amount from you.




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Reply #14 on: August 11, 2013, 12:51:16 am
How would you react if you sent, let's say, 500k to the wrong player and he decides to keep it?
I'd suck it up because it's my fault.

How would you react if you accidentally sent even $300 via bank transfer to a wrong account when a bank has "no return policy" and the person decided to keep it?


Choice 2 - Don't return the money, face getting banned

Everybody, including owner and a community leader, said nothing about banning from the game. Do not spread false information.

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