Baltic states honor the victims of Soviet and Nazi regimes

[JayL]

pretending to know everything

but in the end you're just someone from Argentina who was born after the Soviet Union ceased to exist.

*rest of post*

[Jubin]

. So if the Lithuanians and neighbors kept their cool for four decades, it obviously means something was making them happy

Or you know...fear after what happened in Prague spring and Hungarian revolution also knowing that Warsaw pact was still being enforced.

[Salmonella]

On a serious note, great comeback. :>

[Gandalf]

A more logical explanation would be to blame the Soviet way of handling 'problems'. In any Soviet occupied country there was no such thing as freedom of speech. If you didn't support shit you'd be sent off to a working camp the minute they found out. They didn't 'keep their cool for four decades', they just wanted to try and live a normal life in a crazy world full of soviet propaganda and censorship. It's easy not to lose your cool when you know it means prison, death or workcamps if you lose it.

I see Western propaganda has worked very well on you.
Most people living in Soviet times do not know if they should find such things hilarious or be offended at the blatant lies people were fed.

[Salmonella]

It surprises me to see that coming from you. I however have heard the stories first hand from an artist who lived in the Georgia when it was still part of the Soviet Union, until he moved to the Netherlands a year or two before the civil war there which freed them from the USSR.

Although I have seen things you'd clasify as ''western propaganda'', that is not where my views are based on. I'm fortunate enough to have actually met victims of the USSR repression.

[Mikal]

I see Western propaganda has worked very well on you.

I'm sure the west could say the same about Russia.

[Gandalf]

It surprises me to see that coming from you. I however have heard the stories first hand from an artist who lived in the Georgia when it was still part of the Soviet Union, until he moved to the Netherlands a year or two before the civil war there which freed them from the USSR.

Although I have seen things you'd clasify as ''western propaganda'', that is not where my views are based on. I'm fortunate enough to have actually met victims of the USSR repression.

People running from their counrty will rarely give a positive or true example.  Georgia was not free after a civil war there was a referendum like in the Baltics, and like any other Soviet republic had the right to hold.

[Gandalf]

I'm sure the west could say the same about Russia.

Western propaganda never worked in Russia.

[Kirgiz]

ITT: People knowing jackshit about Baltic history pretend they are completely right on the subject.

Unfortunately the independence of the Baltic was short-lived.

truth be told.

Education Soviets bought? Really? What education?

During Cold War Soviet education was at the top of the world. Nuff said.

Judging by your later postings, you are clearly an unbiased person towards this topic.

Thing is your government chose to be part of the Soviet Union, and as you learned nothing from history, your government chose to be part of the EU. When the choice was made people were happy, things can change over time.

Another bullshit call.

If you name "You either join us or we'll invade you and annex anyway" a "choice", then go dig up a dictionary.

While your system works like this:

1st grade: 7–8 years
2nd grade: 8–9 years
3rd grade: 9-10 years
4th grade: 10–11 years
5th grade: 11–12 years
6th grade: 12–13 years
7th grade: 13–14 years
8th grade: 14–15 years
9th grade: 15–16 years

Ours works like this:

Nursery: 4 years
Reception: 5 years
Year 1: 6 years
Year 2: 7 years
Year 3: 8 years
Year 4: 9 years
Year 5: 10 years
Year 6: 11 years
Year 7: 12 years
Year 8: 13 years
Year 9: 14 years
Year 10: 15 years
Year 11: 16 years

Now you see why your friend was in a higher year compared to your graded system. His level of knowledge was no higher.

Biggest ice-burn of the month. Exceptionally great, KhornateMonkey!

[Salmonella]

People running from their counrty will rarely give a positive or true example.  Georgia was not free after a civil war there was a referendum like in the Baltics, and like any other Soviet republic had the right to hold.

I don't think this person would lie about this or 'run' so far for no reason. I believe him and view him as a valuable source, but you're right in that it isn't an independent source.

[Mikal]

Western propaganda never worked in Russia.

I meant Russians are brainwashed by Russian propaganda.

You say us people in the West are brainwashed by western propaganda, you're brainwashed by Russian propaganda.

[Borus]

I meant Russians are brainwashed by Russian propaganda.

You say us people in the West are brainwashed by western propaganda, you're brainwashed by Russian propaganda.

What 'Russian' propaganda are you talking about exactly? The only large-scale propaganda there is is the US (NATO) justifying its "war on oil terrorism" and the communistic propaganda (China/North Korea). If you, on the other, hand would call Putin's presidential campaign (for example) propaganda, then I strongly suggest you to check out the American one too and afterwards form a more suitable opinion. Easy to point fingers when you ignore your own country's (or nation's) flaws (in this case, I'm generalizing the West).

[Mikal]

What 'Russian' propaganda are you talking about exactly? The only large-scale propaganda there is is the US (NATO) justifying its "war on oil terrorism" and the communistic propaganda (China/North Korea). If you, on the other, hand would call Putin's presidential campaign (for example) propaganda, then I strongly suggest you to check out the American one too and afterwards form a more suitable opinion. Easy to point fingers when you ignore your own country's (or nation's) flaws (in this case, I'm generalizing the West).

Oh look, a Russian talking about how Russia doesn't have any propaganda.

I wonder how much propaganda you were fed by Russia until you believe there actually was no propaganda, these days everything you see/hear on TV, especially on the news is propaganda designed to keep you in check, I don't support the US, or NATO in any current wars, apart from the ones against the dirty scum Taliban as they actually are terrorists and nothing can change that, infact I'de rather love to see NATO fall apart so that the UK could be free of all it's oil related wars which it's dragged into by the USA.

[Jubin]

truth be told. During Cold War Soviet education was at the top of the world. Nuff said.

Please, can you give me a reason for your statement? Source maybe?

[Borus]

Oh look, a Russian talking about how Russia doesn't have any propaganda.

What gave you the impression that I'm Russian? My opinion? For your information, I'm living in Europe and have 3 nationalities. What's your point?

I wonder how much propaganda you were fed by Russia until you believe there actually was no propaganda, these days everything you see/hear on TV, especially on the news is propaganda designed to keep you in check, I don't support the US, or NATO in any current wars, apart from the ones against the dirty scum Taliban as they actually are terrorists and nothing can change that, infact I'de rather love to see NATO fall apart so that the UK could be free of all it's oil related wars which it's dragged into by the USA.

Oh so your only source to form such a firm opinion is the general Western media which sprays you with danger messages about the big bad terrorists and the good NATO heroes? Again, I suggest you to revise your matter and sources. The UK chose to be in the NATO, it wasn't even forced, which means that your beloved country gives its full support to the US and its foreign policy which doesn't make it any better than the US itself.