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Reply #15 on: September 09, 2013, 11:32:34 am
I believe 'old' players are too selfish to ask questions from ACA, and that's why i am saying it. I don't know,in SA:MP Things were different. When i'm asking questions in IV:MP only one answers or none, just like in SA:MP. I don't know IV:MP Very well. I'm in CMB,and we are only giving exams,not helping players. IV:MP Division might be different,how am i supposed to know? And as i said you think you don't need it because you will never need our help, if you need help you will just ask it in /pm someone or in /p
My point is that "old" players are more than happy to help others, but not afraid to ask for help. However when i have a question, i tend to ask it in general as opposed to turning to ACA. Doing stuff like "events" and /ads isn't at all needed if all you do is help. Get my point?




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Reply #16 on: September 09, 2013, 01:08:39 pm
I see a lot of fight against our Organisation but infact you do not say an actual reason why you are against us . You believe that our help is not needed? Well nobody forced you to do otherway. Someone spoke about CMB , and that their work is to help . Well it's true that they do help , but when it comes to IG maters they are also pretty much like the Regulars . The thing is that we are not working against CMB . We are working near it but the same time we are not doing the same tasks . Our Organisation is not at it's final phase yet as a lot of work is still needed .
About IV:MP . First of all we did not say that it is going to open today or tomorrow , It will take time , and we first have to get experienced on the server . What we will do there? Well we will try to do something more than the Regular Players . All I want to say is that even so far we are not like the regulars , and yes it's true that everyplayer is willing to help , but usually he is not willing to help enough . Everyone has lived the New Comers life and has got pissed off because he didn't get the right Info . I my self almost left the server because I was told lies about the Loaning System ... To get to the point , We want to try to get the new players more experienced and to try to provide them with the most info we can.
You say that we are not needed but still have many people in Argonath that do not know many things . Well in my eyes something is wrong here and that's what ACA is trying to correct . We are trying to do the things better and I believe that it is very wrong that we have people even talking against us , as in fact we never spoke against anyone.


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Reply #17 on: September 09, 2013, 01:38:13 pm
As an administrator of IVMP argo I'd welcome you here. We had a couple of days where the server is filled with newcomers and administration couldn't help them all, since administration is busy with everything. Regulars don't all help the newcomers since it takes time and patience to learn them new things like roleplay. I think ACA would fit in perfectly. The sooner the better!



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Reply #19 on: September 09, 2013, 02:35:41 pm
As an administrator of IVMP argo I'd welcome you here. We had a couple of days where the server is filled with newcomers and administration couldn't help them all, since administration is busy with everything. Regulars don't all help the newcomers since it takes time and patience to learn them new things like roleplay. I think ACA would fit in perfectly. The sooner the better!

Thank you, you are at least honest than rejecting the need of our group. Thank you so much.



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Reply #20 on: September 09, 2013, 06:45:41 pm
I dotn see the harm in creating a group like this. Is it absolutely necessary? No. But if there is an alternative group that new players can turn to for help, it would benefit us.
 
But don't forget that now with new assignments for moderators, that is exactly what their job is to do, to help new players.

I believe 'old' players are too selfish to ask questions from ACA, and that's why i am saying it.

Actually the thing is, we are not too selfish to ask questions from ACA, because in all honesty, old players dont need the help that new players do.

This group is targeted to help new players, not old players. So disrespecting old players for not asking for help just doesn't make sense.

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Reply #21 on: September 09, 2013, 06:57:09 pm
This group is targeted to help new players, not old players. So disrespecting old players for not asking for help just doesn't make sense.

That's what i was saying till they couldn't understand that i said old players won't understand because they won't ask for help.



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Reply #22 on: September 09, 2013, 09:38:21 pm
With over 1000 new accounts registered in IVMP already I can tell you that any help is greatly appreciated, weather its by regulars or an organized group dedicated to helping new players.

Welcome and good luck.



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Reply #23 on: September 09, 2013, 09:42:39 pm
Good luck



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Reply #24 on: September 09, 2013, 10:57:53 pm
thank you guys.



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Reply #25 on: September 09, 2013, 11:08:45 pm
Thank you, you are at least honest than rejecting the need of our group. Thank you so much.
Don't get me wrong here, i questioned the need for the group, i did not reject it. You are trying to do something for the community which is something i applaud you for. All i do is question the need for a "brand" to do it under. That however, is your sole decision. Good luck.




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Reply #26 on: September 09, 2013, 11:27:45 pm
Don't get me wrong here, i questioned the need for the group, i did not reject it. You are trying to do something for the community which is something i applaud you for. All i do is question the need for a "brand" to do it under. That however, is your sole decision. Good luck.

Actually,you said,there is no need for this. Anyway, thank you.



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Reply #27 on: September 10, 2013, 12:37:23 am
Don't get me wrong here, i questioned the need for the group, i did not reject it. You are trying to do something for the community which is something i applaud you for. All i do is question the need for a "brand" to do it under. That however, is your sole decision. Good luck.

This is what I meant as well.

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Reply #28 on: September 10, 2013, 08:17:16 am
This whole discussion about "needed" things has me puzzled. There are a million things in this world which we do not need but are nice to have. I will not make any examples because I'm sure you can think of at least 100 on your own. These guys make a topic about helping new players in this community and people chime in with "well that's not really needed is it?". Those opinions are not really "needed" either are they?



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Reply #29 on: September 10, 2013, 11:35:27 am
This whole discussion about "needed" things has me puzzled. There are a million things in this world which we do not need but are nice to have. I will not make any examples because I'm sure you can think of at least 100 on your own. These guys make a topic about helping new players in this community and people chime in with "well that's not really needed is it?". Those opinions are not really "needed" either are they?

Well said, thank you.



 


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