9/11 Wasn't Real?

[Cofiliano]

Wait some people think it was real?

[KelviNC]

It is Real.

[Dillon]

I suppose 9/11 was a great CGI trick as well yes? And everyone on the streets and all over the New York Metropolitan area and Washington DC were just actors.

[Nikiola]

I suppose 9/11 was a great CGI trick as well yes? And everyone on the streets and all over the New York Metropolitan area and Washington DC were just actors.

Not likely there was people who died there,In the tower's Some did jump to end there fate faster.

But the plane's never hit It was Explosives implanted in the building for all i know but If you think so sure. An the building fell straight down when used in demolition crews' If a plane hit it should fell sideways

[Jingle]

this whole bush family is fucked up.

[TheRock]

Another point I forgot to mention earlier, the way the building came down is clearly another proof there were explosive material being used.. Controlled demolition with fake planes CGI/Hologram whatever* to cover it up..

[jannik852]

I think the 9/11 was real as I remember it on live TV, though why would they be streaming the twintowers for this long, exactly when there was live tv from there, 2 planes flew into the building? It makes you wonder about things :p

[Leon.]

I find it hilarious and sad that you people are all only addressing the issue from the side of conspiracy theorists. You fail to prove a point if you fail to (successfully) refute claims made from the other side - all you people are doing is bringing up claims, attempting to back them up, and shutting your eyes and ears out to anything and anyone else that says otherwise. You might as well be an atheist who tries to speak out against Christianity without knowing a single thing about Christianity, the bible, or anything that would justify atheism. It's also funny how the very people who are doing this are those who accuse Americans of doing the very same.

Mind you, the same people who think 9/11 was conducted by the government are the very same people who think the moon landing was fake (ITT: jealous ex-Soviet veterans jealous they didn't win lol only kidding pls don't get butthurt), who think the Boston bombings were premeditated by the bomb squads, and who think Colonel Sanders' secret "special herbs and spice" in KFC's food cause impotence in black people. We call this species... the conspiracy theorists. Name me ONE reasonable conspiracy theory with sufficient evidence behind it to even suggest that it is true, aside from 9/11.

No one is willing to approach 9/11 with a neutral standpoint; as far as I see, those who THINK they know 9/11 to be a hoax are foreigners who know little about the United States (despite their claims) and show feelings of animosity towards the United States despite their ignorance, just as those who THINK they know 9/11 is what everyone said happened (not exactly to EVERY LETTER like conspirators like to think people believe... there's grey areas in every public event/disaster that's broadcasted, that's a fact) are your typical Americans living a privileged, innocent life, aware of but not knowledgeable about the events occurring around them. Let's be honest, an American individual has better things to do than worry about the world all the damn time. The world sucks, and bad shit goes down every hour the clock ticks by, and if they spent all their time worrying, they'd get nothing done. There's nothing American individuals can do about, say, Syria. Nothing. It's in the individual's best interest to just not care, so that they can focus on the priorities in THEIR lives. Long paragraph short: Americans care more about what goes on inside their borders than outside... I can't say the same for the government, unfortunately.

America bashers trying to make a scene by saying "z0mg conspiracy" to every little thing are nothing but disgusting nuisances... people who ACTUALLY dedicate a few minutes from their day for the sole purpose of tarnishing someone else's view on a legitimate country without even presenting a fair argument from BOTH sides... I'm sure all you people did was Google search "september 11 hoax" or something along those lines, find a few "reputable" sites who just make GIGANTIC and otherworldly claims based on small pieces of evidence, read them, and not even bother to research if any of that was bullshit? It's like trying to find ghosts in a video recording. "OH LOOK, A SPECK OF LIGHT MOVING, TOTES A GHOST." People like that who serve no purpose other than to shit on America with unfounded claims should just back out of discussion before they make a fool of themselves.

Now, instead of posting links to z0mg9/11isfake sites (FYI - the news isn't the only thing capable of brainwashing through propaganda), try something a little more neutral. It sickens me that all of these sites claiming to demand the "truth" about 9/11 are just more people wasting their time prying around for the TINIEST scrap of evidence that the government orchestrated the attacks. Those demanding the truth should be demanding more than just tidbits of evidence to try and accuse everyone of conspiring - they should be actually trying to make progress towards the TRUTH. Leaders of the deceptive "truth" movement like Alex Jones draw their stories around the truth like a child drawing around their hand. Psychologists will tell you that even perfectly sane people have the ability to accept wild conspiracy theories. The more powerless or alone we feel, the more likely we are to develop such theories.


Those of you that have the time to watch videos and read articles regarding the possibility of 9/11 being faked, then you have more than enough time to try and see it from the other side. Read up a little bit on the other side, THEN present an argument. And when I say read up on the other side, I don't mean just read up and say "bullshit, bullshit, bullshit" at every single line you read. Take it with an open mind. Try to see it from the other side.
http://debunking911.com/index.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842
Wikipedia is well-known for its standards for neutrality. Articles, especially popular ones, are frequently checked, and recent edits are HIGHLY scrutinized. If your teachers are stupid like mine and don't allow Wikipedia as a source of information citations based on the fact that it can be freely edited, I feel your pain.
Wikipedia approaches 9/11 NEUTRALLY.


Some of you are going to get auto-butthurt and start thinking I'm among the typical uninformed innocent American individuals who believes every word the news says. I will neither affirm nor reject these claims, for anyone who makes them is undeserving of a discussion with me.

I will close by repeating this statement again, because it is the part I want to stick in people most:
Psychologists will tell you that even perfectly sane people have the ability to accept wild conspiracy theories. The more powerless or alone we feel, the more likely we are to develop such theories.

[Dolfagr]

this whole bush family is f**ked up.

Yeah they funded Nazi Germany man. Plus it's one of the most powerful and rich families in US, even before involved in politics.

[Cofiliano]

9/11 as an event was real, when it comes to WTC, altough many experts claim that in order for building to collaps like that, it needs to be detonated on specific places around those buildings in order to collaps.

So lets say its irrelevant if the building collapsed just cause of plane hit, or some other things were used as well, the point is the story about 9/11 wasn't real at least the one served by the US Administration.

Also does any of you belive a plane hit Pentagon? Do your own reserach a bit you will find that the theory of a plane hitting it and making that damage is completly impossible.

[BKP]

Also does any of you belive a plane hit Pentagon? Do your own reserach a bit you will find that the theory of a plane hitting it and making that damage is completly impossible.

Some say it was a RQ4

[Dillon]

Not likely there was people who died there,In the tower's Some did jump to end there fate faster.

But the plane's never hit It was Explosives implanted in the building for all i know but If you think so sure. An the building fell straight down when used in demolition crews' If a plane hit it should fell sideways

I surely hope your career has nothing to do with physics, can you explain to me how in the hell a building would fall perfectly sideways? Especially when there was a core failure. And I've been around a thermite explosion before when I watched them demolish a bridge and the amount that it would take to blow JUST ONE of the towers would be audible in a massive radius all of Manhattan Brooklyn Jersey City what you have here is a shockwave, one that every video camera recording would be able to see in which you can not see or hear obviously you are wrong.

[Leon.]

the point is the story about 9/11 wasn't real

That is what I meant when I mention 9/11 hoaxes/fakes. It was written at about 1:30AM so some of the wording isn't precisely the point I wanted to get across. Mistake on my part


TL;DR of my above post - check both sides of the argument before drawing a conclusion.

Also, don't you find it strange that if you search the names of the so-called "experts" who give their "expert opinion" on 9/11 in those retarded conspiracy videos (which are equally as propaganda-filled, if not more, than the news), you'll only find their names being affiliated with 9/11 "truth" groups? It's a conspiracy within a conspiracy! O_o wow very strange wow edgy illuminati





"Being skeptical is good, but looking at this, and having your first thoughts be, 'This a hoax staged by the government'... well that takes a special kind of asshole."

[Pandalink]

Wait some people think it was real?

Wait, some people still think it was faked?

Anyway, as for the actual collapse of the buildings, I still like what Gandalf's theory that he posted a few years ago: that there were charges placed in the building to prevent sideways collapse (into Manhattan) after what happened in 1993, and that they were detonated to bring down the buildings vertically after the real terrorist attack on September 11th. Of course they couldn't say that there were charges and that they'd brought down their own buildings with people still incide, the outcry would be insane.
As a theory, it explains a lot of things quite neatly, but obviously there is no evidence for it either way.

[Leon.]

The spillage of thousands of gallons of fuel and the resulting fire (which set various office materials ablaze, such as wooden desks, computers, chairs, and hydrocarbon-based plastics which burn at very high temperatures) warped the support beams on the floors near the fire, to the point where it could no longer hold the weight of the upper floors, resulting in the combined weight of the floors above the immediate crash zone falling onto the lower floors. And thus, collapse.

To think that the government would commit such a heinous, cruel mass murder on its own people it is sworn to protect is absurd on its own, but to continue to say that not even a SINGLE government official would have been against the government's plan, and to say not a single one of them would have whistleblown? These are thousands of lives we're talking about, and families of those thousands who care for them. Government officials are equally as human as we are, capable of empathy, guilt, and compassion. Surely one of them would have done something about it?