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American Soldier's AMAZING Response To Anti-Muslim Comments

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Reply #15 on: September 13, 2013, 10:44:59 am
True, but only to some degree. Islam as a concept is scary to me, I am afraid of its influence and our willingness to (for want of a better analogy)  bend over and take it. I still believe that it's something worth fighting against, for exactly the reasons that Mikal posted.
You might not understand as the problem probably isn't as prevalent in the US, but we're losing our country and the more we allow Islam to do the more we lose.
Muslims can preach Islam just as hard as any other religion can. There are plenty of "Bible thumpers" out there which preach various forms of Christianity too. I'm sure we all know what Jehovah's Witnesses do. Blaming people for believing in something they think is the truth to many great mysteries in life is like saying they can't have their own opinion. So what if more people believe in one thing over another? That is their own choice as long as it isn't forced upon them, from which they can still choose their own path in life regardless. I'm Atheist, born into a non-practicing Catholic family. I was sent to Catholic school. Many Police Officers I work with on a daily basis at work are hardcore Christians. Many of the convenience store properties I've worked at are run by Buddhists and Muslims. One place I also work at is owned by a Jewish family. I treat them the same as anyone else, and they do the same for me. Although they may sometimes talk to people about their religion and try to "recruit" them because they feel they want to help save someone, they don't force it upon people...just like I don't force my opinions of not believing in religion upon those who are religious.

Long story short, give respect and get respect. If you are tolerant of others, even if you don't agree with them, you can still co-exist just fine.

One of my favorite quotes can actually be applied to this situation:
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
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Reply #16 on: September 13, 2013, 06:51:34 pm
Although they may sometimes talk to people about their religion and try to "recruit" them because they feel they want to help save someone, they don't force it upon people...just like I don't force my opinions of not believing in religion upon those who are religious.

You Just Said what i forget to say..

One of my favorite quotes can actually be applied to this situation:
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
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Reply #17 on: September 13, 2013, 09:13:50 pm
True, but only to some degree. Islam as a concept is scary to me, I am afraid of its influence and our willingness to (for want of a better analogy)  bend over and take it. I still believe that it's something worth fighting against, for exactly the reasons that Mikal posted.
You might not understand as the problem probably isn't as prevalent in the US, but we're losing our country and the more we allow Islam to do the more we lose.

Anyway, as for the video, I wouldn't expect any different from those people. The actor being the racist wasn't really being "racist" any more than he was just downright being a prick, and if someone is being a prick I'd expect people to step in and set him straight.
Doesn't London already have the biggest mosque outside of any Islamic country? I agree that we are all humans, but Islam is not something a large majority of British people want in our country, it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth, the simple fact that one of the guys I work with said he would kill his wife if she left the house is evidence enough, and yes I've heard alot worse, but I hear it on a daily basis working with them that I just ignore it, most of the time they are blabbing in their own language with the 100's of Islamic people that come in weekly, I honestly hate my job and can't wait to get the f**k out of there so I can finally be away from these people, I would happily welcome them into the UK, aslong as they left their religion behind, as an Atheist I don't support religion as a whole, and so it should be known that I am only targetting Islam so much because of my own experience with Muslims I work with, see and meet on a daily basis.

I can't wait for UKIP to get into power, maybe the UK will end up like Australia and we won't have to lose our countries personality, or whats left of it.

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Reply #18 on: September 13, 2013, 10:02:36 pm
...it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth...
That actually isn't true. Most religions in general have spawned much greater violence over time. Take the Christian Crusades as an example.

Remember, it is people who are violent, not their beliefs. They are the ones who choose to act upon something with violence or peace.



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Reply #19 on: September 14, 2013, 01:50:48 pm
Doesn't London already have the biggest mosque outside of any Islamic country? I agree that we are all humans, but Islam is not something a large majority of British people want in our country, it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth, the simple fact that one of the guys I work with said he would kill his wife if she left the house is evidence enough, and yes I've heard alot worse, but I hear it on a daily basis working with them that I just ignore it, most of the time they are blabbing in their own language with the 100's of Islamic people that come in weekly, I honestly hate my job and can't wait to get the f**k out of there so I can finally be away from these people, I would happily welcome them into the UK, aslong as they left their religion behind, as an Atheist I don't support religion as a whole, and so it should be known that I am only targetting Islam so much because of my own experience with Muslims I work with, see and meet on a daily basis.

I can't wait for UKIP to get into power, maybe the UK will end up like Australia and we won't have to lose our countries personality, or whats left of it.

So as usual, you're being that guy that doesn't like anyone who's not similar to him.

Oh by the way, just so you don't take it as a compliment: it sucks.



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Reply #20 on: September 14, 2013, 03:31:32 pm
This is bullshit, we all know 'Murica is the most racist country ever...

It's dead, whether you like it or not.

We need some REALLY BIG CHANGES.


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Reply #21 on: September 14, 2013, 03:36:16 pm
one of the guys I work with said he would kill his wife if she left the house is evidence enough
And Islam says it is allowed where exactly?



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Reply #22 on: September 14, 2013, 03:37:56 pm
but Islam is not something a large majority of British people want in our country, it is the most violent and inhuman religion on Earth
Excuse me?
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Islam Is fastest growing religion in the world, analysis says that Islam is growing faster than the world population. Among every four humans in the world, one of them is Muslim. Muslims have increased by over 235 percent in the last fifty years up to nearly 1.6 billion. There are 87% Sunni and 12% Shia and 1% others are completing the figure of the Muslim world.
1.6 billion people on earth are muslims. And spread all over the world if the british people didn't want Muslim people to step in their country...they could have not allowed the Immigration of "Muslim" people.
And for the violence, Please dont give me this bullshit not every Muslim is violent. Islam does not accept violence and the those who do violent stuff being a muslim are surely doing it for themselves.


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Reply #23 on: September 14, 2013, 03:43:31 pm
And for the violence, Please dont give me this bullshit not every Muslim is violent.

He didn't say every muslim is violent.

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Reply #24 on: September 14, 2013, 03:45:43 pm
He didn't say every muslim is violent.
He said Islam is the most violent religion. Doesnt that mean that all muslims are violent?


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Reply #25 on: September 14, 2013, 03:47:15 pm
He said Islam is the most violent religion. Doesnt that mean that all muslims are violent?

No. The religion itself is violent, but not all muslims.

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Reply #26 on: September 14, 2013, 03:49:07 pm
No. The religion itself is violent, but not all muslims.

Please explain how is islam violent.


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Reply #27 on: September 14, 2013, 03:50:23 pm
Please explain how is islam violent.

I don't give a shit about religion really, was just referring to what Mikal said.

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Reply #28 on: September 14, 2013, 03:57:58 pm
Well then, cant we just lock this topic as it is going NO where?


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Reply #29 on: September 14, 2013, 04:04:42 pm
Well then, cant we just lock this topic as it is going NO where?
Seeing this may change people's views on American soldiers as I know not everyone supports what they do. But maybe the religious discussion should be left out as it always causes problems and conflicting views. ;)



 


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