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Reply #15 on: September 17, 2013, 10:39:35 pm
If you get a better board (not really much expensive) grab a 4570k of i5. Man 4th gen brings EPIC power saving :D The chips eat very very less electricity, and you'll be gaining it back in no time by saving on electricity bills.  :rolleyes:

Also 3rd gen intels heat the most.

other then that there's no major difference between 2 and 3rd gen either.


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Reply #16 on: September 20, 2013, 04:24:09 pm
Dude I am inspired from you and now I am planning to get 4th gen I7 8gb reg/corsair ram 1tb HDD w/SSD w/o SSD drives but with no  gpu right now.

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Reply #17 on: September 20, 2013, 05:04:27 pm
Dude I am inspired from you and now I am planning to get 4th gen I7 8gb reg/corsair ram 1tb HDD w/SSD w/o SSD drives but with no  gpu right now.

Grab a 4th gen i5. You'll save $100. Plus, when it comes to games i7 and i5 hardly show a difference. Both are mostly quad core.
The difference is if you render videos or multitask.

But if you're buying a 6 core i7. Then its good. But 6 physical cores are rare and only in some models. Mostly its quad core with hyperthreaded virtual cores. Which don't help at all in gaming.

You go and ask anywhere professional online, they're gonna recommend a i5 over i7. :)

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Reply #18 on: September 20, 2013, 05:08:55 pm
budget wise i5 is better but performance wise no way

if the guy has cash to blow why not just get the best



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Reply #19 on: September 20, 2013, 05:21:53 pm
I will be using your topic for my own help.I7 4770k is only 350$.Tomorrow I will be more specific as I will post pics of products.I7 is better than I5 even in gaming and yes I love multitasking.

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Reply #20 on: September 20, 2013, 05:25:03 pm
Unless he plans on doing some very CPU intensive tasks, he has no need for an i7 over i5. But even games are now heading to more and more core usage, therefore an i7 might be an advantage in the coming years.

As for a GPU, if he has a small budget he can grab an HD7770 (cheap card with great performance, runs BF3 on ultra at 1680x1050 with smooth fps). I'd recommend a GTX 560 Ti if it were $100 cheaper but that thing is a power hog, and the 7770 comes with ZeroPower technology, which saves you quite a bit on the electric bill.



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Reply #21 on: September 20, 2013, 05:31:58 pm
I an kind of broke.Even with CPU+ram+PSU+casing+fans I reach price uptop 860$  :( Maybe if you guys help me I think I can save few $$$.Please wait till tomorrow as I will be more I mean a lot specific

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Reply #22 on: September 20, 2013, 06:18:27 pm
People who buy i7 just think its better over i5.
No that's not the case. i5 3570K and i7 3770K are almost equivalent in games. Maybe i7 is 2 fps better at most.

Google is your friend buddy, that's the truth. True gamers buy i5. Go to toms hardware, they helped me a lot on chosig a CPU and GPU.

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Reply #23 on: September 20, 2013, 06:27:49 pm
People who buy i7 just think its better over i5.
No that's not the case. i5 3570K and i7 3770K are almost equivalent in games. Maybe i7 is 2 fps better at most.

Google is your friend buddy, that's the truth. True gamers buy i5. Go to toms hardware, they helped me a lot on chosig a CPU and GPU.
New games basically us hyper threading technology therefore I7 provide more threading power.I am not saying that you are wrong but what I am trying to say is that I7 will br much faster and it only makes a difference of 10 to 15 fps.For example if I transfer file,with I7 it will take few seconds hut with I5 it will also take less secs but not like I7

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Reply #24 on: September 20, 2013, 06:31:14 pm
Google is your buddy if you know how to determine what is legitimate and what is not. Clearly, there are many factors to processors and how they preform. Not to mention logical factors, such as I can have a 4core i7 compared to a 12core i5, obviously the i5 is going to preform better. However, in performance tests I've seen, in person both equiv brands and cores i5 v i7 against each other the i7 did a lot better, by a suburb amount. Yet, again there are many factors such as other hardware in the system (in the tests, the other hardware remained unchanged). If you change the hardware both chips might preform differently. It really depends on your build.



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Reply #25 on: September 20, 2013, 06:53:08 pm
Unless he plans on doing some very CPU intensive tasks, he has no need for an i7 over i5. But even games are now heading to more and more core usage, therefore an i7 might be an advantage in the coming years.

As for a GPU, if he has a small budget he can grab an HD7770 (cheap card with great performance, runs BF3 on ultra at 1680x1050 with smooth fps). I'd recommend a GTX 560 Ti if it were $100 cheaper but that thing is a power hog, and the 7770 comes with ZeroPower technology, which saves you quite a bit on the electric bill.

gtx 560 ti is of 300$ and now that out of my budget.I know how that feels :( my I7 4770k comes with Intel hd 4600 graphics so that's mean that I can play crysis 3 on it at very high settings

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Reply #26 on: September 20, 2013, 08:07:47 pm
Google is your buddy if you know how to determine what is legitimate and what is not. Clearly, there are many factors to processors and how they preform. Not to mention logical factors, such as I can have a 4core i7 compared to a 12core i5, obviously the i5 is going to preform better. However, in performance tests I've seen, in person both equiv brands and cores i5 v i7 against each other the i7 did a lot better, by a suburb amount. Yet, again there are many factors such as other hardware in the system (in the tests, the other hardware remained unchanged). If you change the hardware both chips might preform differently. It really depends on your build.
Teddy's right.
Top of that, it depends on what you're using it for.
Hyper threading doesn't help at games. Not even GTA V yet. You can Google that.

So if its a gaming PC, strictly speaking, GAMING PC. A quad core i5 is equivalent to quad core i7. (4 physical cores, not the hyperthreded cores).
BECAUSE, i7 is definitely powerful, but you won't be using its potential. Nor in GTA V not in Watchdogs. :) maybe maybe in future. Dunno bout that.

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Reply #27 on: September 20, 2013, 08:14:57 pm
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Should you be looking for a gaming rig these days and ask yourself what CPU you should buy, then we can say, that the Core i5-4670K will be as sufficient as the i7-4770K. From a gaming performance point of view it really doesn't matter which of the two CPU's you buy. On the other hand, if you consider the price difference between these two CPU's, then the i5-4670K is almost 90 Euro cheaper and the i7-4770K. In case of a gaming PC the i5-4670K is definitely more value for money and the i7-4770K only makes sense, when you actually run applications, which benefit from eight virtual cores.

http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=14

Detailed comparison between similar i5 and i7. Benchmarks for sky rim, far cry battle field and all that.
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1061&page=14


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Reply #28 on: September 21, 2013, 02:33:44 pm
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_4670K_and_i7_4770K_Comparison/1.html

I7 is a lot faster man! The difference if of around 10-15 fps with I7.I can't decide what to buy  :pissed:

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Reply #29 on: September 21, 2013, 02:39:18 pm
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/Intel/Core_i5_4670K_and_i7_4770K_Comparison/1.html

I7 is a lot faster man! The difference if of around 10-15 fps with I7.I can't decide what to buy  :pissed:
Well the i7 still costs $100 more, and the tests you see are done using the integrated graphics processors... So I suggest getting the i5 and using the money to get a 7770.



 


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