Custom Build Gaming PC help.

[Xavier12]

Well the i7 still costs $100 more, and the tests you see are done using the integrated graphics processors... So I suggest getting the i5 and using the money to get a 7770.

You mean I5 4670k with 4.5 GHz?.Hey if you know a lot about computers then we will discuss it over pm?

[Xavier12]

I have reached a total of 545$ for I5 4670k 3.5ghz+1tb hdd+motherboard+ram.

I don't know what kind of casing I need and powe supply and yea sound card too and cooling fans too! I mean liquid coolers.

[Ragdoll]

You mean I5 4670k with 4.5 GHz?.Hey if you know a lot about computers then we will discuss it over pm?

It's only 4.5GHz because they overclocked it majorly.. and I'm usually against overclocking since it could void your warranty should you go overboard.

But yeah, I'm talking about the 4670. Read about the 7770 here if you wish.

I have reached a total of 545$ for I5 4670k 3.5ghz+1tb hdd+motherboard+ram.

I don't know what kind of casing I need and powe supply and yea sound card too and cooling fans too! I mean liquid coolers.

For the PSU, anything that's not generic (as in unknown company) and above 500W should be decent (since Intel's processors don't usually have the high TDPs). If you can go up to 600W you might as well.

[Xavier12]

Ragdoll if you want to give some of your time that would be great.

 http://www.shophive.com/shophive/Computer-Parts-c-218.pakistan.html

Please select casing+power supply+cooler+motherboard for me.Please choose. Cheaper where possible.If the price is 10000rs divide it with 100 and you will get that in $

[Ragdoll]

Ragdoll if you want to give some of your time that would be great.

 http://www.shophive.com/shophive/Computer-Parts-c-218.pakistan.html

Please select casing+power supply+cooler+motherboard for me.Please choose. Cheaper where possible.If the price is 10000rs divide it with 100 and you will get that in $

Can't help you with that since you're going with an LGA 1150 board and mine's an ASUS AM3+ board. If I'd known more of the 1150 boards I'd have helped but I do not want to be the one to give you any false info, though I'm sure someone else here should be better at picking those out. For the PSU, anything from Corsair or CoolerMaster that's above 550-600W is fine unless you're going with an SLI/CrossfireX build, which you're not.

I kinda like this case though: http://www.shophive.com/shophive/Cooler-Master-Silencio-550-p-10877.pakistan.html ...

... but yet again, that's my opinion on it, you're going to have to do some thinking of your own with these items.

For the coolers, there are only 3 on the website you gave me, none of which I'm familiar with, though the TX3 EVO does strike me as the best of the 3.

[Xavier12]

The case you liked is cool but it looks small as when I have more Monet again I will surely upgrade my pc.

[Xavier12]

Ok with CPU+case+ram+gpu+HDD+air cooler I have reached a value fo 840$.I want liquid coolers but they are quite complicated.Don't know how do I install every part.

[TheLegitHabibi]

Ok with CPU+case+ram+gpu+HDD+air cooler I have reached a value fo 840$.I want liquid coolers but they are quite complicated.Don't know how do I install every part.

U don't need a liquid cooling system if you aren't over clocking. Just buy a good CPU cooler and some fans for the casing.

[SugarD]

U don't need a liquid cooling system if you aren't over clocking. Just buy a good CPU cooler and some fans for the casing.

Although it is true that you don't "need" them, I still highly recommend anyone out there getting a high-end computer to get liquid cooling regardless. Fans just cannot keep systems cool enough these days, and the heat lessens their life span greatly. Most manufacturers are still too cheap and lazy to include liquid cooling in pre-built systems unless they can use it as a marketing scheme, (such as what Alienware does).

As for the topic itself, did those who replied answer all of your questions satisfactorily?

[TheRock]

Although it is true that you don't "need" them, I still highly recommend anyone out there getting a high-end computer to get liquid cooling regardless. Fans just cannot keep systems cool enough these days, and the heat lessens their life span greatly. Most manufacturers are still too cheap and lazy to include liquid cooling in pre-built systems unless they can use it as a marketing scheme, (such as what Alienware does).

As for the topic itself, did those who replied answer all of your questions satisfactorily?

Actually wrong, the smaller the architecture the less heat there is... My last i5 4430, was going max 45C under full use if I recall correct, all that with 0DB, around 2k RPM with stock cooler.

[Kessu]

Arguing over what gives out more heat and what not is pretty much useless. The difference can be up to 10c even with same CPU and cooling system.

As for liquid cooling? Antec Kühler 920 does it's job more than good enough. My i5 3570K is overclocked up to 5 GHz and heat never goes up to 70 even with over-night prime95 test.

I've built ~500-800$/€/£ PCs for fellow furie members and family members and all seem to be happy with pretty much the same setup, difference being in what they use the PC for.

So here's the advice I can give you;

For CPU, if you're hardcore Intel fan / want a really good gaming experience, you can go something like i5 3570K and ~100€ motherboard to go with it. RAM I suggest Corsair Vengeance (cheap and very high reliability), let it be 4 GB or 8 GB, it's your call.

If you use your PC with all kinds of neat stuff (video/photo editing (I don't mean random memes, but the real deal), streaming, making let's play vids etc etc..) and not just gaming I'd go with AMD FX-8320 (8-cores) It's on-par with i5 in gaming yet wins when it comes to multitasking. Same RAM and price of mobo is highly recommended.

GPU? depends on if you want to use nVidia or AMD.

GTX 660 and above will run the newer games quite well. From AMD side I'd say 7770 and above does the same job.

As for PSU I'd say only consider Corsair. Nothing else has ever provided me with such quality. GTX 660 and 430W version is enough. With GTX 670 or higher go 500-600W. I got i5 3570K and GTX 680 running with 600W.

Case always get ATX size and motherboard the same. Read; NOT mATX.

HDD doesn't really make that big of a difference when it comes to gaming so that's your call, I would recommend going for Samsung tho' for reliability.

If I forgot something poke me in PM.

Note: This post has been in the mindset of gaming PC within the budget mentioned above.

[SugarD]

Actually wrong, the smaller the architecture the less heat there is... My last i5 4430, was going max 45C under full use if I recall correct, all that with 0DB, around 2k RPM with stock cooler.

That is not always true. It depends entirely on the design and usage. Some CPU's run hotter than others. Also, 45 degrees Celsius is by no means cool. Most may say that is a good temperature for a computer to run at...but remember: Computers in the mid-90's ran "hot" at 40 degrees Celsius. They often required fans right over their heatsinks just to keep the systems from damaging themselves. They were loud "space-heater" systems. Computers today run even hotter, and do many more calculations per second. They are being pushed even farther by high-end games too. Relying on the same technology from the mid 90's to cool something in the mid 2010's is just silly.

[Kessu]

That is not always true. It depends entirely on the design and usage. Some CPU's run hotter than others. Also, 45 degrees Celsius is by no means cool. Most may say that is a good temperature for a computer to run at...but remember: Computers in the mid-90's ran "hot" at 40 degrees Celsius. They often required fans right over their heatsinks just to keep the systems from damaging themselves. They were loud "space-heater" systems. Computers today run even hotter, and do many more calculations per second. They are being pushed even farther by high-end games too. Relying on the same technology from the mid 90's to cool something in the mid 2010's is just silly.

The new GPUs AND CPUs are made to last ~100 celcius degrees so your argument in this case is invalid.

As long as the celcius stays below 75 then you're good to go with little to no changes to it's lifespan.

And PCs that were in mid 90s mean nothing these days. Air cooling is more than sufficient enough to keep the CPU/GPU within it's "recommended" temperature limits.

[TheLegitHabibi]

exactly. Getting liquid cooling isn't required unless you're OCing and shi.
Without OC air cooling and a good CPU cooler is good enough. 

Anyways my queries are resolved ty

[SugarD]

The new GPUs AND CPUs are made to last ~100 celcius degrees so your argument in this case is invalid.

As long as the celcius stays below 75 then you're good to go with little to no changes to it's lifespan.

And PCs that were in mid 90s mean nothing these days. Air cooling is more than sufficient enough to keep the CPU/GPU within it's "recommended" temperature limits.

Recommended doesn't mean it is a real-world answer. Recommended means just that...recommended. Everything wears out eventually in this world, no matter what it is. The more you abuse it, the faster it wears out.

As for air cooling, not at heavy operating temperatures. I dare someone here to run GTA IV, Crysis 3, or some other super graphically-intense game on their system with only fans cooling it and tell me it doesn't get hot.

It is a known fact that heat kills computers faster. It is also a known fact that when they get hot, they tend to slow down. The reason being is that electrons cannot pass through the metal circuits as quickly because they are expanding under the heat, and taking up more room in the metal as they move through it, essentially causing a "traffic jam". If you keep the computer very cool while under heavy load, your system will not only perform better, but will last longer. Long story short, heat causes wear and tear on any electronics, computers included. The more there is, the worse it gets.