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GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: Ninda on February 22, 2014, 03:51:27 pm

Title: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Ninda on February 22, 2014, 03:51:27 pm: Hi Argonath, :) :D
I would like to share my ideas about "Restricted words and filtered words"
Im just wondering there is automatically filtered words in main chat (not in local chat, PM, call, etc ), like when someone wants to say bad words, it will be automatically replaced by "stars" like ******
or something more the text will be denied by server with any feedback to players.

And the second idea is that it will be good when someone try to use invalid /report and /su commands it will be automatically rejected
for example:
/report 12 car stealing
/su 12 cop baiting
etc
those of these command will be denied automatically by server by any feedback.

Basically, This idea is just to make the server more good for us as we know there a lot of newbies who registered in server and they dont know what they are doing is wrong or right whenever there are no adminis or managers online
and make it easier for adminis and managers, because i really respect their job.

This idea would be good for our game improvement.

Regards

Michelle (Miaow)
(http://s3.postimg.org/86fn8gjir/294431_252723951435354_1382900765_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Talya_taya on February 22, 2014, 04:31:08 pm: Ah, how cute you are(photo) :eek:

1st Idea: One who wants to say something bad will say it in anyway so that effort, wont worth in my opinion. Also about what I hate is, if there will be a sentence with harass, the way it gets censored cos of the part which you probably get(har***), disturbs a lot... Therefore I ll not support this idea. ^^"

2nd Idea: This would be good though there can be lots of variations on writing reasons therefore it cant be prevented %100, however if he luckily write it totally right, a warning for lets say /su id ramming could be good like:

Player 1 types /su 3 ramming.

For Player 1's screen:

(ERROR:) The reason you used is not a reason that can be /sued for. (Please Check /rules and know that they re prioritized over laws.)

(blabla) is additional parts in this case.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: JDC on February 22, 2014, 05:29:10 pm: As for the first idea, is this GTA or Club Penguin?

I may not play on this server on Argonath, but across all its servers there are admins and complaint emails for the purpose of helping and protecting you from rulebreakers. Helping the team do their job by sending complaints on those who have no respect for others can help make sure that they will not do the same to anyone else in the future.

Players do not need a script to spoon-feed them everything. They need to learn from experience, then they will do better off wherever they go, script or no script.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Bundy on February 22, 2014, 05:33:31 pm: Quote from: JDC on February 22, 2014, 05:29:10 pm
As for the first idea, is this GTA or Club Penguin?
This is ArgonathRPG, vulgar language is not tolerated here. And no, I haven't met Aragorn.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: AK47 on February 22, 2014, 05:35:21 pm: Quote from: Bundy on February 22, 2014, 05:33:31 pm
This is ArgonathRPG, vulgar language is not tolerated here. And no, I haven't met Aragorn.

HAHAHAH
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: BarelyVisible on February 22, 2014, 05:56:10 pm: Say no more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-akqjKzII
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Haythem on February 22, 2014, 06:02:33 pm: Stick to the topic please , such posts are not needed..
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: JDC on February 22, 2014, 06:09:07 pm: Quote from: Bundy on February 22, 2014, 05:33:31 pm
And no, I haven't met Aragorn.

Not surprised.

Although unless that is the image you hold in mind, you should know that our players are not fragile princesses who need to be protected from every fly or shit in the air. That is, unless you assume that every player does not know how to use "stronger" words properly and will only use them if they intend to flame someone else. Do you?

This is a community with a diverse age range (we have older and mature players too, not just the 12-year-olds who frequent Call of Duty and love to narrate about how they slept with your mother), and players should be given the freedom to exercise their expression as long as it isn't aimed at breaking the rules or useless shitting.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: BarelyVisible on February 22, 2014, 06:16:54 pm: Quote from: JDC on February 22, 2014, 06:09:07 pm
*Snip*
This is a community with a diverse age range (we have older and mature players too, not just the 12-year-olds who frequent Call of Duty and love to narrate about how they slept with your mother), and players should be given the freedom to exercise their expression as long as it isn't aimed at breaking the rules or useless shitting.

You'll notice that a lot of the banter between Cops and Criminals is very profanity laced, but this isn't flaming, rather its characters expressing themselves in RP.

You can hardly expect a violent mobster or a veteran police detective to never drop an f-bomb in the heat of the moment. It would hardly be considered "Realistic", and really more of a restriction if anything.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Mihail Junkovich on February 22, 2014, 10:10:04 pm: For the first one there is no need

As for the second idea, I really really like it ^^
It's probably a good idea to make a "warning" after typing in /su ID ram/ramming/carjack/speed/kill and other common invalid crimes

I would really like to see that one
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Ninda on February 22, 2014, 11:31:11 pm: Quote from: Mihail Junkovich on February 22, 2014, 10:10:04 pm
For the first one there is no need

As for the second idea, I really really like it ^^
It's probably a good idea to make a "warning" after typing in /su ID ram/ramming/carjack/speed/kill and other common invalid crimes

I would really like to see that one
Quote from: Talya_taya on February 22, 2014, 04:31:08 pm
Ah, how cute you are(photo) :eek:

1st Idea: One who wants to say something bad will say it in anyway so that effort, wont worth in my opinion. Also about what I hate is, if there will be a sentence with harass, the way it gets censored cos of the part which you probably get(har***), disturbs a lot... Therefore I ll not support this idea. ^^"

2nd Idea: This would be good though there can be lots of variations on writing reasons therefore it cant be prevented %100, however if he luckily write it totally right, a warning for lets say /su id ramming could be good like:

Player 1 types /su 3 ramming.

For Player 1's screen:

(ERROR:) The reason you used is not a reason that can be /sued for. (Please Check /rules and know that they re prioritized over laws.)

(blabla) is additional parts in this case.

Thanks for positive responses from you guys, might Devs team will consider this idea / suggestion :)
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: hurricane on February 22, 2014, 11:54:33 pm: Michelle is right ;)
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: gabrielkiriac on February 23, 2014, 12:06:30 am: I agree only with the second idea
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Thomas_Nolan on February 23, 2014, 04:25:38 am: I totally agree on the second idea.

When there are no admins / ranked officers, the freecops that just dont understand the LCPD rules would just /su them for rulebreaks or completely senseless reason. And then all the "suspect-hungry" cops would attack (sometimes carkilll) the suspect, leaving him mad and start swearing at the cops, which will lead to other problems such as taking revenge on cops by ramming, cophunting.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: JDC on February 23, 2014, 06:43:01 am: Instead of automatically blocking freecop via script, why not just have the more experienced players teach them how to work properly as cop?
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Mihail Junkovich on February 23, 2014, 10:01:27 am: Quote from: JDC on February 23, 2014, 06:43:01 am
Instead of automatically blocking freecop via script, why not just have the more experienced players teach them how to work properly as cop?

You are not from GTA IV aren't you?
It seems that we have to place in every tittle [GTA IV MP] in order to point it out for you guys
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: JDC on February 23, 2014, 10:09:42 am: Quote from: Mihail Junkovich on February 23, 2014, 10:01:27 am
You are not from GTA IV aren't you?
It seems that we have to place in every tittle [GTA IV MP] in order to point it out for you guys

I know this is an idea for IV:MP. What I am wondering about is why it seems so hard to teach abuser/"abuser" cops how to work properly, especially as some of them are new players who do not know the rules properly yet.

The difference in servers does not affect the fact that players can be taught to follow rules, or punished if they refuse to comply.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: PulseEffect on February 23, 2014, 10:30:01 am: This caught my attention, just commenting on the first idea...

Quote from: Argonath Vision
Argonath recognizes that a part of the community is underage.

Therefore, the following is prohibited:
Swearing, flaming and insulting. Within roleplay this is allowed very limited and strictly bound to the situation. If there is any doubt about the slang/language used is for ropleplay only, administration has full right to take any measures they find necessary.

As for those "no admin"situations, they should be reported by the provided email or to a relevant administration member..
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Undertaker on February 23, 2014, 01:45:55 pm: For the second idea, I would like something like that to prevent that minority/majority of rulebreaks suspections but... It can be easily by-passed. Same goes for the first idea, easy to go around it.

A direct aproach is indeed more useful then using scripts but... doesn't always works :balance:
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: gabrielkiriac on February 23, 2014, 10:44:43 pm: JDC you are surprisingly wrong. I tried to teach some new guys what to do but do you think that they even listenned to me? They say sorry i do not know english and they start doing bad things. But some weeks ago i met some guys who were willing to learn something. We rarely see those kind of guys in IVMP
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: Talya_taya on February 23, 2014, 10:51:32 pm: Quote from: JDC on February 23, 2014, 10:09:42 am
I know this is an idea for IV:MP. What I am wondering about is why it seems so hard to teach abuser/"abuser" cops how to work properly, especially as some of them are new players who do not know the rules properly yet.

The difference in servers does not affect the fact that players can be taught to follow rules, or punished if they refuse to comply.

Sadly on this matter I ll be against on your comment, these times I am not trying to teach cops how to act properly but I just can see people's behavior when I warn them about a wrong and how to fix himself and do the right but instead of listening, they prefer to do the way they want.. Sadly someone cant explain or change someone's behavior unless they have some rights over others such as administative powers.

Most of the newcomers cant even bother theirself to read 1 sentence without freeze or something else. So I understand that nor LCPD neither anybody experienced can teach players how to act properly. Of course there are exclusions, its some other thing but Im talking for the bigger part of players. Even regulars do something wrong and refuse to listen, there is nothing to do till they get caught by administration.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: yoske on February 24, 2014, 09:11:40 pm: As for word filtering - no need for it as players would find the way to express themselves anyway with maybe separating the word into syllables and such. It wouldn't help much, so no reason for it.

As for second suggestion - I don't see need for it as well. New players that join police duty usually don't know the procedures and rules that officers should follow. No restriction, nor "error" won't stop them for suspecting someone for invalid reason. It might be "carjacking" but once it says "error", he ll most likely type "car stealing" instead. And none of them won't suspect for cop baiting, they just use "hit and run" etc.
I think better solution for this would be finding the way to teach them about job they are about to do. Regular players that RP as officers should do most of the job, by making patrols with new players and while doing so they might teach them the rules and regulations. And they are not doing it at all, or at least in very rare occasions. So guilt doesn't only goes to new players, it also goes to regular ones as well...

Point of this nonsense I wrote - not supporting, can be bypassed easily so not really needed.
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: gabrielkiriac on February 25, 2014, 06:44:46 am: I agree with you John but they won't listen
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: yoske on February 25, 2014, 01:32:52 pm: Quote from: gabrielkiriac on February 25, 2014, 06:44:46 am
I agree with you John but they won't listen

You 'll bump on someone who will and that is most important. Those who don't want to learn will sooner or later be punished for their wrong actions...
Title: Re: Restricted and filtered words
Post by: gabrielkiriac on February 27, 2014, 11:04:27 pm: I like guys who are asking help and listen but they are very rare.. Anyway i played so many mornings with no admin and had alot of reports but i didn't the guys from report punished or smth else. Maybe they are punished exactly when i am offline haha