Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: Rami on July 03, 2014, 07:28:17 am
-
Occupied East Jerusalem - Dozens of people have been injured in the largest clashes in occupied East Jerusalem in years, as Palestinians fought with police after the mutilated body of a boy was found dumped in a forest outside the city.
The body may belong to Mohammed Abu Khdair, a 17-year-old from the Shuafat neighbourhood, who was abducted on Wednesday morning.
Police say they are investigating whether the murder was a revenge attack, carried out after three kidnapped Israeli settlers were found dead earlier this week in the occupied West Bank.
A police spokesman said Abu Khdair was reported missing early on Wednesday. Witnesses said that he was abducted around 3.45am and thrown into a car by two or three men as he was walking to the mosque.
"I heard screaming outside: 'Mohammed has been kidnapped'," said Abu Moussa Abu Khdair, a cousin who was in the mosque at the time.
"When I ran outside he was gone, and the youth [outside the mosque] said he was taken in a car."
By nightfall, though, the body was still unidentified. DNA samples have been taken as the body was too badly burned to be recognised.
Relatives said his father spent most of the day in a police station.
Stun grenades
The discovery led to more than 12 hours of clashes in Shuafat on Wednesday.
Local Palestinian youths blocked the light railway and threw stones at Israeli border police, who fired stun grenades and rubber-coated steel bullets.
Clashes dragged on throughout the day, despite the summer heat and the Ramadan holiday.
Read more of our coverage on Palestine
The heaviest fighting was outside the Abu Khdair family home, and the mosque where he was abducted.
The Palestinian Red Crescent said that more than 50 residents were injured throughout the day; there were no injuries among the police. Among the injured were at least four journalists, including two from Palestine TV, one of whom was seriously injured.
"From 7am the army tried to block off this neighbourhood," said Akram al-Salameh, the owner of a nearby bakery who was wounded.
"They forced me and my employees to leave ... . I think they are taking revenge for what happened," he said, referring to the kidnapping.
The kidnapping happened just hours after a funeral for the three settlers, who were abducted on June 12 while hitchhiking home from their religious seminary in the occupied West Bank.
Their bodies were found on Monday near Hebron, prompting fear of retaliatory attacks against Palestinian citizens of Israel, who make up 20 percent of the population.
Micky Rosenfeld, a spokesman for the Israeli police, said the department was investigating whether the abduction and possible murder were "criminal or nationalistic".
Additional officers have been sent to Jerusalem, where several Palestinian neighbourhoods were closed to traffic, and in northern Israel.
Facebook campaign
In a statement, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, called the incident "a heinous murder".
"I call on all sides not to take the law into their own hands. Israel is a nation of laws for all, and all are compelled to follow the law," he said,
Mahmoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinian Authority, demanded that Israel did more to stop future attacks.
Gaza residents testify about the effects Israel and Egypt's blockade of their land has had on their lives.
"We call for providing international protection for the Palestinian people against settlers' attacks that, under the protection of Israeli occupation forces, have continued unabated," he said in a statement.
The mood in Jerusalem, in particular, has been extremely tense since Monday.
Dozens of people were arrested at a right-wing rally on Tuesday night, where protesters chanted "Death to the Arabs".
One man was jailed overnight for attacking a Palestinian worker in a fast-food restaurant in the city, and two other assaults were reported on Tuesday.
"Palestinian blood is no less valuable than the blood of settlers," Ahmed Tibi, a Palestinian member of the Knesset, said during a visit to Shuafat on Wednesday.
Israeli aircraft carried out several strikes in the Gaza Strip early on Thursday, an official and witnesses said, after Palestinians fired rockets into southern Israel.
At least 10 civilians were injured in the northern Gaza Strip, including a woman who was described as being in critical condition by the Gazan emergency chief Ashraf al-Qedra.
The Israeli government has blamed Hamas for the abduction of the three settlers, and it has carried out dozens of air raids this week in Gaza.
In a statement, Hamas said Israel would "pay the price" for Abu Khdair's abduction: "Our people will not let this crime pass, nor all the killings and destruction by your settlers."
source: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/palestinian-youth-body-found-amid-tension-2014727956766566.html
-
This topic has been re-opened for discussion, and by discussion I mean the actual discussion. Keep this straight, next one provoking and talking non-sense will be directly awarded with a forum mute and warning, with no verbal warning.
-
As by reading through the old topic, I've been getting information from both sides, and I can agree that both sides are not acting perfect. But thats how the world is.
Constructive critisism on each others posts is fine, provoking is not.
-
I respect your decisions, but none of this anger would have happened if not for my jealousy over my continuously terrorized people by Israel.
-
I respect your decisions, but none of this anger would have happened if not for my jealousy over my continuously terrorized people by Israel.
In the real world, your people are not the only ones who feel aggrieved by another party, and neither are the Israelis.
The countries of most users on this forum have one reason or another to feel aggrieved by another country / people as well, but you don't see everyone ranting about it as well in the same way you do. An example would be how China is bullying my country for territory, but you don't see me posting things such as "fuck the chinese" "all chinese are imperialists" etc.
Adding that to the fact that this is a board where discussion is supposed to center around objective facts and healthy criticism thereof, please keep your emotions in check.
-
In the real world, your people are not the only ones who feel aggrieved by another party, and neither are the Israelis.
The countries of most users on this forum have one reason or another to feel aggrieved by another country / people as well, but you don't see everyone ranting about it as well in the same way you do. An example would be how China is bullying my country for territory, but you don't see me posting things such as "f**k the chinese" "all chinese are imperialists" etc.
Adding that to the fact that this is a board where discussion is supposed to center around objective facts and healthy criticism thereof, please keep your emotions in check.
The situation here is way more that a territory dispute.
You don't see China rocking your territory with the heaviest bombs, destroying its people's houses, burning them to death with White Phosphor thrown from aircraft over overcrowded cities, do you?
-
The situation here is way more that a territory dispute.
You don't see China rocking your territory with the heaviest bombs, destroying its people's houses, burning them to death with White Phosphor thrown from aircraft over overcrowded cities, do you?
I'm not talking about the scale or intensity of the various situations, something which I am aware of as well.
The point I'm discussing is that in wars and conflict, people on all sides would feel aggrieved, as well as the fact that this board is a platform for objective facts and healthy debate, not propaganda wars.
Discuss your grievances in a proper manner rather than posting propaganda that labels all Israelis as murderers.
-
The entire topic will be tossed in the trash if this turns into a political or racial argument. Keep that in mind.
-
The entire topic will be tossed in the trash if this turns into a political or racial argument. Keep that in mind.
unfortunately that will not happen beacuse rami keeps posting bullshit posts with "israel bombing gaza with the heavist weapons" while gaza is bombing israel 24/7 for the last 72 hours.
-
The entire topic will be tossed in the trash if this turns into a political or racial argument. Keep that in mind.
This exactly what pretty much happens with any political discussion topic, don't expect me to be "too cool" while my people are dying. "Whose hands in water, are not as whose hands in fire".
I'm not talking about the scale or intensity of the various situations, something which I am aware of as well.
The point I'm discussing is that in wars and conflict, people on all sides would feel aggrieved, as well as the fact that this board is a platform for objective facts and healthy debate, not propaganda wars.
Discuss your grievances in a proper manner rather than posting propaganda that labels all Israelis as murderers.
I never claimed all Israelis are murderers, please get your facts right.
I referred to the IOF and illegal settlers that keep constantly attacking the Palestinians of the West Bank and Jerusalem. This is no 'bullshit' I'm saying here, all the assaulting cases are all documented and archived.
unfortunately that will not happen beacuse rami keeps posting bullshit posts with "israel bombing gaza with the heavist weapons" while gaza is bombing israel 24/7 for the last 72 hours.
Yes, Hamas in Gaza has launched rockets against Israel during the last 72 hours, but how many were injured/wounded? Zero.
On the other hand, Israel has been attacking Gaza with continuous airstrikes since the last week, how many were killed? 43 Palestinians, and more than 320 wounded. Along the 43 killed Palestinians 13 children, 9 women who never made it to the hospital but as carnage and totally burnt in some cases. Also, three entire families were targeted the last 72 hours with different Israeli Zionist airkstrikes, all these three families were completely killed, mostly children, women, and old men/women.
They had no any relation with any militants, rockets launching or anything.
As for westerns its an annoying picture to see the reality of the burnt Palestinians here due to the Israeli Zionist airstrikes. It's already too painful for you to see it, how if you were a part of what's going on? That's exactly our situation here.
But I don't think its too painful for you to see a rocket from Gaza hitting an empty open space (Which is mostly it's maximum damage to cause), is it?
So please, don't expect me to be cold and act normal over the unbelievable massacres and the genocides that are being committed against the Palestinians.
P.S.: For those who gonna claim "Israel was attacking the militants who were hiding between the houses, and the killed citizens were only side effects of that strike and not meant to happen on purpose", I've got only one reply to you: If Hamas militants said that when they blow up a bus in Tel Aviv and claim that they only wanted to destroy the bus itself and not the passengers, wouldn't you laugh for that?
Exactly what you claim.
-
This exactly what pretty much happens with any political discussion topic, don't expect me to be "too cool" while my people are dying. "Whose hands in water, are not as whose hands in fire".
I never claimed all Israelis are murderers, please get your facts right.
I referred to the IOF and illegal settlers that keep constantly attacking the Palestinians of the West Bank and Jerusalem. This is no 'bullshit' I'm saying here, all the assaulting cases are all documented and archived.
Yes, Hamas in Gaza has launched rockets against Israel during the last 72 hours, but how many were injured/wounded? Zero.
On the other hand, Israel has been attacking Gaza with continuous airstrikes since the last week, how many were killed? 43 Palestinians, and more than 320 wounded. Along the 43 killed Palestinians 13 children, 9 women who never made it to the hospital but as carnage and totally burnt in some cases. Also, three entire families were targeted the last 72 hours with different Israeli Zionist airkstrikes, all these three families were completely killed, mostly children, women, and old men/women.
They had no any relation with any militants, rockets launching or anything.
As for westerns its an annoying picture to see the reality of the burnt Palestinians here due to the Israeli Zionist airstrikes. It's already too painful for you to see it, how if you were a part of what's going on? That's exactly our situation here.
But I don't think its too painful for you to see a rocket from Gaza hitting an empty open space (Which is mostly it's maximum damage to cause), is it?
So please, don't expect me to be cold and act normal over the unbelievable massacres and the genocides that are being committed against the Palestinians.
P.S.: For those who gonna claim "Israel was attacking the militants who were hiding between the houses, and the killed citizens were only side effects of that strike and not meant to happen on purpose", I've got only one reply to you: If Hamas militants said that when they blow up a bus in Tel Aviv and claim that they only wanted to destroy the bus itself and not the passengers, wouldn't you laugh for that?
Exactly what you claim.
as i already said we have got the dome working and rockets coming from gaza are intercepted in the air. you know how much each cash intercepting a rocket costs? x5 more than your house.
so please, rockets from gaza needs to stop and that is why israel is attacking back, we are trying to focus on the hamas armouries and such but when your pro hamas go and hide behind innocent citizens this is not our problem. you want to blame someone for innocent palestines dieing? blame hamas. you know where the head of hamas sits? in the middle of a hospital in Gaza, and that's a place idf will never attack beacuse of the people there.
and rami, please stop bullshitting with the shit pictures you give, they are from syria war where assad kills innocent palestines aswell and you dont even dare saying anything about him, he's throwing chimical rockets at them and you give me pictures from there, gg
-
The entire topic will be tossed in the trash if this turns into a political or racial argument. Keep that in mind.
I see one post was not enough for people in this topic to get the point.
People die everyday, that is the reality of war. If Hamas hides in the mist of innocent people, it's on them, not you. If the Israeli government ends up blowing some innocent people as a result of Hamas hiding in the midst of those innocent people, it's on them, not you.
A much better trail for this topic would be to discuss why the war is happening in the first place, and what can be done to resolve the conflict. Not like our words here will affect the outside world, this being a gaming forum, but there's nothing wrong with healthy, albeit theoretical discussion. No need to go at each other's thraots and get all personal.
-
Yes, Hamas in Gaza has launched rockets against Israel during the last 72 hours, but how many were injured/wounded? Zero.
On the other hand, Israel has been attacking Gaza with continuous airstrikes since the last week, how many were killed? 43 Palestinians, and more than 320 wounded. Along the 43 killed Palestinians 13 children, 9 women who never made it to the hospital but as carnage and totally burnt in some cases. Also, three entire families were targeted the last 72 hours with different Israeli Zionist airkstrikes, all these three families were completely killed, mostly children, women, and old men/women.
They had no any relation with any militants, rockets launching or anything.
If Israel wanted to blow the Palestinians to pieces, they could have so many times over. If they do however open fire, it is directly targeted towards the Hamas terrorists. Hamas is a terrorist organization that oppresses their own people and blames the Israeli. Israel has bent over backwards throughout the years to help the Palestinians with medical, food, etc. It is the Hamas that is keeping their own in dire straights. Those palestinians killed by Israel were militants who were firing rockets into Israel. Not innocent civilians.
When the innocent 15 year old Palestinian got murdered and burned alive, Israel authorities caught the six extremists and charged them.
Quote from the Israeli Prime Minister: "We acted immediately to apprehend the murderes. We will bring them to trail and they will be dealt to the fullest extent of the law" (Associate Press). You see that is the differance between the Israeli and Palestine authorities. On the other hand, the Palestinian authorites didn't do anything to track down who killed the three Jews. In fact, Palestinians celebrated (http://elitedaily.com/news/world/palestinians-celebrating-praising-kidnapping-three-israeli-teens-photos/640534/) it. This is not just some random occurrence, this is the mindset of many Palestinians.
-
If Israel wanted to blow the Palestinians to pieces, they could have so many times over.
If they'd do that, they would stop receiving US support, which would be a suicide act for Israel as it would undoubtedly provoke a war with its neighboors.
If they do however open fire, it is directly targeted towards the Hamas terrorists. Hamas is a terrorist organization that oppresses their own people and blames the Israeli.
So all Palestinians are terrorists now? :|
Israel has bent over backwards throughout the years to help the Palestinians with medical, food, etc. It is the Hamas that is keeping their own in dire straights.
So if you send a million, and then do damage up to billions, it's okay because you were trying to help anyway?
Those palestinians killed by Israel were militants who were firing rockets into Israel. Not innocent civilians.
Funny thing is that if I read the BBC or CNN, I see the words 'fighting' and 'defence by Israel', whereas if I read Belgian news, I see Palestinian civilian victims mentioned in every article about Israel. I see Belgium as a pretty neutral refering point for this conflict, and thus am gonna need a source on your statement that claims 'only militants' were killled recently.
When the innocent 15 year old Palestinian got murdered and burned alive, Israel authorities caught the six extremists and charged them.
Quote from the Israeli Prime Minister: "We acted immediately to apprehend the murderes. We will bring them to trail and they will be dealt to the fullest extent of the law" (Associate Press). You see that is the differance between the Israeli and Palestine authorities.
There certainly is a difference. Just not this one, as it's pretty much bullshit. You see, there is actually a difference between people, authority and a terrorist cell. :O
On the other hand, the Palestinian authorites didn't do anything to track down who killed the three Jews. In fact, Palestinians celebrated (http://elitedaily.com/news/world/palestinians-celebrating-praising-kidnapping-three-israeli-teens-photos/640534/) it.
So when Israel suffers a loss, it's the Palestinians. But when there's a rocket send from Gaza that has been shot down mid-air with no Israeli victims, it's the terrorists. Damn, that's a pretty easy way of thinking to not be forced facing facts.
This is not just some random occurrence, this is the mindset of many Palestinians.
But the mindset of 'Palestinians are all terrorists' is exactly why Israel is bombing innocents right now, right? It seems to me that when it's convenient, all Palestinians are suddenly terrorists to you and Israel. :lol:
-
If they'd do that, they would stop receiving US support, which would be a suicide act for Israel as it would undoubtedly provoke a war with its neighboors.
So all Palestinians are terrorists now? :|
So if you send a million, and then do damage up to billions, it's okay because you were trying to help anyway?
Funny thing is that if I read the BBC or CNN, I see the words 'fighting' and 'defence by Israel', whereas if I read Belgian news, I see Palestinian civilian victims mentioned in every article about Israel. I see Belgium as a pretty neutral refering point for this conflict, and thus am gonna need a source on your statement that claims 'only militants' were killled recently.
There certainly is a difference. Just not this one, as it's pretty much bullshit. You see, there is actually a difference between people, authority and a terrorist cell. :O
So when Israel suffers a loss, it's the Palestinians. But when there's a rocket send from Gaza that has been shot down mid-air with no Israeli victims, it's the terrorists. Damn, that's a pretty easy way of thinking to not be forced facing facts.
But the mindset of 'Palestinians are all terrorists' is exactly why Israel is bombing innocents right now, right? It seems to me that when it's convenient, all Palestinians are suddenly terrorists to you and Israel. :lol:
where did he say that all the palestines are terrorists? damn no.
even if the rocket was intercepted in the air it costs us money you know, and it's far from being cheap. why do hamas hide behind innocent civilian? they are the ones to make the innocent people get killed, not us.
i want to see if that would be putin, do you think he'd even think twice? we are actually trying to destroy as less as possible but when you keep sending more than 100 rockets to us we are not gonna sit quiet waiting for something to actually blow up.
and for your information iron dome is 80 percent success, so there is a chance the rocket will pass by it and blow up, and that already happened couple of times.
-
where did he say that all the palestines are terrorists? damn no.
Pretty much everywhere, like every Israeli likes to imply it seems.
even if the rocket was intercepted in the air it costs us money you know, and it's far from being cheap. why do hamas hide behind innocent civilian? they are the ones to make the innocent people get killed, not us.
So all the casualties by Israeli hands were terrorists? Absolutely not, which again proves my points that you consider all Palestinians terrorists.
i want to see if that would be putin, do you think he'd even think twice?
Putin actually fought a war on terrorism, which had casualties on both sides. Totally unrelated to this topic.
we are actually trying to destroy as less as possible but when you keep sending more than 100 rockets to us we are not gonna sit quiet waiting for something to actually blow up.
and for your information iron dome is 80 percent success, so there is a chance the rocket will pass by it and blow up, and that already happened couple of times.
From what I've read, 2 (two) unsuccesful rockets were launched by Hamas, while Israel has killed over a dozen innocents in Gaza 'only' today, claiming they're militants. You don't fight terrorism by dropping rockets on cities. You do though if you think the citizens are somehow all related to terrorism, which seems to be the case in the eyes of Israel.
-
Pretty much everywhere, like every Israeli likes to imply it seems.
So all the casualties by Israeli hands were terrorists? Absolutely not, which again proves my points that you consider all Palestinians terrorists.
Putin actually fought a war on terrorism, which had casualties on both sides. Totally unrelated to this topic.
From what I've read, 2 (two) unsuccesful rockets were launched by Hamas, while Israel has killed over a dozen innocents in Gaza 'only' today, claiming they're militants. You don't fight terrorism by dropping rockets on cities. You do though if you think the citizens are somehow all related to terrorism, which seems to be the case in the eyes of Israel.
what are you even talking about? stop saying bs i never said, where did i say all the palestines are terrorists?
and no, not all the casualties by israeli hands were terrorists, but as i said, hamas is HIDING behind innocent palestines in gaza, shooting rockets from thier houses, hiding in an hospital, hiding in thier houses, putting thier rockets and armouries inside citizen houses, how is that possible for us to fight the terrorism without assaulting them then? do you want us to ask them nicely to stop shooting rockets? if you are looking to blame someone for the innocent people dieing, blame your hamas "heroes" for hiding like pussies.
-
I don't know what are you talking about? Who are Palestinians?
JUST NOW: Huge wave of missiles above the Ben Gurion International Airport
Enjoying our reality in Israel!!
-
what are you even talking about? stop saying bs i never said, where did i say all the palestines are terrorists?
and no, not all the casualties by israeli hands were terrorists, but as i said, hamas is HIDING behind innocent palestines in gaza, shooting rockets from thier houses, hiding in an hospital, hiding in thier houses, putting thier rockets and armouries inside citizen houses, how is that possible for us to fight the terrorism without assaulting them then? do you want us to ask them nicely to stop shooting rockets? if you are looking to blame someone for the innocent people dieing, blame your hamas "heroes" for hiding like pussies.
Hamas' official status could be described as a political resistance movement, which makes sense considering what has been done to their land. Nevertheless, my point being is that it's funny how America and Israel portray Hamas as terrorists, but the Syrian rebels usually as 'freedom fighters' during the Syrian war. The US and Israel supported the rebels fighting Assad, because it would benefit their personal cause. Obviously, they don't support Hamas, because it brings their position into an obvious disadvantage if they would do so. With this simple example, it is very clear of how deep your propagated mentality really lies.
I have a few Jewish acquaintances who visit Tel Aviv every summer holiday, who are against the zionist vision and Israel's actions. This alone says enough about what Israel is doing. Most people I speak to, who I concider to be neutral sources as well (who do not support any cause) agree with me as well that Israel is commiting horrible acts against humanity every day.
To top it off, the last considerable 'terrorist' assault by Hamas is dated from 2010, invalidating the argumentation of 'self-defence'. Gonna wonder what you'll come up with in your next post. :lol:
-
what are you even talking about? stop saying bs i never said, where did i say all the palestines are terrorists?
do you want us to ask them nicely to stop shooting rockets? if you are looking to blame someone for the innocent people dieing, blame your hamas "heroes" for hiding like pussies.
eat kurkure (http://i.imgur.com/xfbwQ1y.jpg?)
-
eat kurkure (http://i.imgur.com/xfbwQ1y.jpg?)
and what do u want
Hamas' official status could be described as a political resistance movement, which makes sense considering what has been done to their land. Nevertheless, my point being is that it's funny how America and Israel portray Hamas as terrorists, but the Syrian rebels usually as 'freedom fighters' during the Syrian war. The US and Israel supported the rebels fighting Assad, because it would benefit their personal cause. Obviously, they don't support Hamas, because it brings their position into an obvious disadvantage if they would do so. With this simple example, it is very clear of how deep your propagated mentality really lies.
I have a few Jewish acquaintances who visit Tel Aviv every summer holiday, who are against the zionist vision and Israel's actions. This alone says enough about what Israel is doing. Most people I speak to, who I concider to be neutral sources as well (who do not support any cause) agree with me as well that Israel is commiting horrible acts against humanity every day.
To top it off, the last considerable 'terrorist' assault by Hamas is dated from 2010, invalidating the argumentation of 'self-defence'. Gonna wonder what you'll come up with in your next post. :lol:
i dont get what do you want, hamas is a terrorist organisation and if you say thier actions are good then i dont see any wrong doings of us.
i also have arab friends who live in israel and are against hamas, so?
-
and what do u want
I want you to stop acting smart, you don't even know what is the real story behind it.
and how Israeli's army kill kids....very shamefull;
Edit: Enable to post evidence because death/blood pictures or videos are not allowed here.
-
I want you to stop acting smart, you don't even know what is the real story behind it.
and how Israeli's army kill....very shamefull;
No blood or death on this forum
lol yes i know how israel army kills the terrorists they're very pro doing that.
u r the one acting smart about stuff you know nothing about, read anthrax post pls
-
I'm sorry but I have red a comment like: "Yeah, Palestina shot some missiles towards Israel, but how many died? Zero". So wait, it's normal that you shoot missiles towards another country, because it does not kill anyone? That's extremely retarded and if that's really your vision, I'm a bit shocked. You don't shoot missiles at ANYONE, that's an act of war and should be punished. Honestly I understand it when Israel is returning fire on Palestina, just to make a point and try to stop these disgusting extremists.
I am not against Muslims but stop hiding the fact they sometimes breach the peace with disgusting terrorism acts. I am obviously not judging any of the good ones, but as long as bombings, murders and these disgusting actions are done in 'name of Allah', sorry ... but that totally fucks up the whole image of your religion. It would be good if higher Muslim-people, with a big reputation, would step up against these idiots and say: "NOW IT'S OVER". But no-one does that and they can continue doing in name of Allah and shouting: "Allahu akbar" whenever they blow up something, once against this is not meant racist but as long as I hear that I link it with the religion and I honestly think it's a pretty aggressive religion, I'm sorry. But that's also based on the opinions against homosexuality, woman and all these things - come on, we live in 2014!
-
lol yes i know how israel army kills the terrorists they're very pro doing that.
u r the one acting smart about stuff you know nothing about, read anthrax post pls
HAHA! you want to say that kids are terriost..pls don't make me laugh now.
-
It would be good if higher Muslim-people, with a big reputation, would step up against these idiots and say: "NOW IT'S OVER". But no-one does that and they can continue doing in name of Allah and shouting: "Allahu akbar" whenever they blow up something, once against this is not meant racist but as long as I hear that I link it with the religion and I honestly think it's a pretty aggressive religion, I'm sorry.
not how the world works, sorry to ruin your dream :cry:
-
HAHA! you want to say that kids are terriost..pls don't make me laugh now.
if its too hard for you to read what i said before ill bold it for you
hamad hides behind innocent citizens, they shoot thier rockets from citizens house, they hide in citizens house, they hide in hospitals - infact the leadership of hamas is hiding there(in a state hospital), they use innocent people as cover, so how is it our fault when those innocent citizens die? it is obviously hamas fault.
-
if its too hard for you to read what i said before ill bold it for you
hamad hides behind innocent citizens, they shoot thier rockets from citizens house, they hide in citizens house, they hide in hospitals - infact the leadership of hamas is hiding there(in a state hospital), they use innocent people as cover, so how is it our fault when those innocent citizens die? it is obviously hamas fault.
How does hamas blend in with 4 kids who are less than 10 years old that were heavily injured after finishing their prayers? Oh right, hamas hides somewhere near them, so it's okay for you guys to shoot them instead.
-
I'm sorry but I have red a comment like: "Yeah, Palestina shot some missiles towards Israel, but how many died? Zero". So wait, it's normal that you shoot missiles towards another country, because it does not kill anyone? That's extremely retarded and if that's really your vision, I'm a bit shocked. You don't shoot missiles at ANYONE, that's an act of war and should be punished. Honestly I understand it when Israel is returning fire on Palestina, just to make a point and try to stop these disgusting extremists.
Extremism and rebellion usually evolves around certain areas where people are unequally treated, unless outside forces are in the game. Obviously, Hamas isn't supported by anyone eoutside of the problem area, so why is it that Israel has the sudden 'right' to colonize Palestina in 1946, but the Palestinians, who got deported and segregated out of their homes (or killed if they refused), have no right to fight back?
I am not against Muslims but stop hiding the fact they sometimes breach the peace with disgusting terrorism acts. I am obviously not judging any of the good ones, but as long as bombings, murders and these disgusting actions are done in 'name of Allah', sorry ... but that totally f**ks up the whole image of your religion. It would be good if higher Muslim-people, with a big reputation, would step up against these idiots and say: "NOW IT'S OVER". But no-one does that and they can continue doing in name of Allah and shouting: "Allahu akbar" whenever they blow up something, once against this is not meant racist but as long as I hear that I link it with the religion and I honestly think it's a pretty aggressive religion, I'm sorry. But that's also based on the opinions against homosexuality, woman and all these things - come on, we live in 2014!
This part is entirely unrelated to the whole topic. I can also rant about certain people expressing their sexuality disproportionally as well but I won't, so I hope you'll respect for people's sake to do the same on this topic. If you want to rant about the bad and agressive Islam, start another topic about it and I'll gladly reply. :)
and what do u want
i dont get what do you want, hamas is a terrorist organisation and if you say thier actions are good then i dont see any wrong doings of us.
i also have arab friends who live in israel and are against hamas, so?
if its too hard for you to read what i said before ill bold it for you
hamad hides behind innocent citizens, they shoot thier rockets from citizens house, they hide in citizens house, they hide in hospitals
Ass pulled statements.
- infact the leadership of hamas is hiding there(in a state hospital),
Yeah because they are constantly bombed. Hell, I'd hide in a hospital if there would be a daily dozen of rockets around the area where I live as well.
they use innocent people as cover,
Another thing coming out of your ass.
so how is it our fault when those innocent citizens die? it is obviously hamas fault.[/size][/size]
Because even with all the US supplied drone technology, you 'accidently' have over 100 civilian deaths the past week. Come on now son, I'm not that naive to believe this silly statement. :lol:
-
Extremism and rebellion usually evolves around certain areas where people are unequally treated, unless outside forces are in the game. Obviously, Hamas isn't supported by anyone eoutside of the problem area, so why is it that Israel has the sudden 'right' to colonize Palestina in 1946, but the Palestinians, who got deported and segregated out of their homes (or killed if they refused), have no right to fight back?
This part is entirely unrelated to the whole topic. I can also rant about certain people expressing their sexuality disproportionally as well but I won't, so I hope you'll respect for people's sake to do the same on this topic. If you want to rant about the bad and agressive Islam, start another topic about it and I'll gladly reply. :)
Ass pulled statements.
Yeah because they are constantly bombed. Hell, I'd hide in a hospital if there would be a daily dozen of rockets around the area where I live as well.
Another thing coming out of your ass.
Because even with all the US supplied drone technology, you 'accidently' have over 100 civilian deaths the past week. Come on now son, I'm not that naive to believe this silly statement. :lol:
im not ur son babe, and if your excuse to the truth is 'coming out of your ass' then you're dumb and there isn't anyone to talk with.
-
im not ur son babe, and if your excuse to the truth is 'coming out of your ass' then you're dumb and there isn't anyone to talk with.
>can't back up his blatant lies
>is unable to respond, therefore calls someone dumb for not believing lies
Didn't expect anything better from you really. :hah:
-
>can't back up his blatant lies
>is unable to respond, therefore calls someone dumb for not believing lies
Didn't expect anything better from you really. :hah:
say what son
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnvPk3opHo
after we give them warnings to laeve the scene so they dont get hurt thats what hamas do
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-orders-civilians-to-die-in-israeli-airstrikes/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/10/hamas-is-using-civilians-as-human-shields-but-its-latest-directive-is-the-most-shocking/
so plesssssss its not that i dont have evidence i just dont like spending time on haters <3
-
say what son
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnvPk3opHo
after we give them warnings to laeve the scene so they dont get hurt thats what hamas do
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-orders-civilians-to-die-in-israeli-airstrikes/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/10/hamas-is-using-civilians-as-human-shields-but-its-latest-directive-is-the-most-shocking/
so plesssssss its not that i dont have evidence i just dont like spending time on haters <3
Funny you keep clinching on the same argumentation while it has been confirmed that 90 civilians have died with at least 20 children these few weeks only by Israeli rockets, while the onslaught continues (with the emphasis on civilians, and not militants). This only means that Israel is truly careless about Palestinians, and do not believe they deserve the right to live as every normal human being. Hamas wouldn't exist if Israel ceased military operations against the Palestinian civilian populace. Hamas gets support every time Israel launches one of these "offensives" THAT JUST SO HAPPEN to result in loss of life and LOSS OF LAND and Israel JUST SO HAPPENS to expand their settlements during these "defensive operations". If Israel really wanted to fight against a terrorist group, it would have taken care of it years ago with all their technology. They're just waiting for them to strike so they'll have a reason to kill another hundred civilians and slowly but steady claim more land.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaoQ6_rW6fU
-
Funny you keep clinching on the same argumentation while it has been confirmed that 90 civilians have died with at least 20 children these few weeks only by Israeli rockets, while the onslaught continues (with the emphasis on civilians, and not militants).
funny you keep saying that israel is killing innocent civilians while im trying to explain you that it's hamas fault.
This only means that Israel is truly careless about Palestinians, and do not believe they deserve the right to live as every normal human being.
i can say the same about hamas, they don't belive we deserve the right to live as every normal human being.
if israel didn't care about palestinias they wouldn't arrest the group of people who killed that kid
Hamas wouldn't exist if Israel ceased military operations against the Palestinian civilian populace.
hhhhhhhhhhhhh nice one
If Israel really wanted to fight against a terrorist group, it would have taken care of it years ago with all their technology. They're just waiting for them to strike so they'll have a reason to kill another hundred civilians and slowly but steady claim more land.
oh really smart ass tell me how'd u take care of a terrorist group hiding behind innocent citizens shooting more then 100 rockets a day 24/7
-
funny you keep saying that israel is killing innocent civilians while im trying to explain you that it's hamas fault.i can say the same about hamas, they don't belive we deserve the right to live as every normal human being.
if israel didn't care about palestinias they wouldn't arrest the group of people who killed that kidhhhhhhhhhhhhh nice oneoh really smart ass tell me how'd u take care of a terrorist group hiding behind innocent citizens shooting more then 100 rockets a day 24/7
Thanks for proving my point that you're unable to answer with a plausible argument. :lol:
-
(http://i59.tinypic.com/5ebiuf.jpg)
-
. Obviously, Hamas isn't supported by anyone eoutside of the problem area, so why is it that Israel has the sudden 'right' to colonize Palestina in 1946, but the Palestinians, who got deported and segregated out of their homes (or killed if they refused), have no right to fight back?
In 1946 Palestine was ruled by the British. So they said who could get into the country and who couldn't. Also taking from the 1967 decisions of no recognition of Israel, no peace with Israel and no negotiation with it from the surrounding countries I am sure Hamas is well supported by those countries.
-
Gimme a break , theres no holy people in the war. Both sides does stuff like this , and you dont need to make yourself think , just because if palestinians killed 999 people for example , are way more better than israelians who did 1000 ,or just because Israel has very advanced military.
The thing is: If both sides we`re enough smart , they`d start dealing it in diplomatic way. Now - all they wants to do is just murdering each others which is kinda stupid.
I wish them luck and some light to come over to them and they starts peaceful dealing. Good luck both to Israel and Palestine.
-
(http://i59.tinypic.com/5ebiuf.jpg)
Dem this is so accurate :app: All arabs want is not free Palestine actually , but getting rid of Israel.
-
In 1946 Palestine was ruled by the British. So they said who could get into the country and who couldn't. Also taking from the 1967 decisions of no recognition of Israel, no peace with Israel and no negotiation with it from the surrounding countries I am sure Hamas is well supported by those countries.
"In 1946, Transjordan gained independence from the British Mandate for Palestine."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine
Proof that Hamas is supported please.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/5ebiuf.jpg)
He forgot to add after the "no more war" part, that there would be no more Palestinians either. :lol:
Here's how kind hearted he is:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/report-netanyahu-says-9-11-terror-attacks-good-for-israel-1.244044
-
Gimme a break , theres no holy people in the war. Both sides does stuff like this , and you dont need to make yourself think , just because if palestinians killed 999 people for example , are way more better than israelians who did 1000 ,or just because Israel has very advanced military.
The thing is: If both sides we`re enough smart , they`d start dealing it in diplomatic way. Now - all they wants to do is just murdering each others which is kinda stupid.
I wish them luck and some light to come over to them and they starts peaceful dealing. Good luck both to Israel and Palestine.
Diplomatic? HAMAS? What?
-
Dem this is so accurate :app: All arabs want is not free Palestine actually , but getting rid of Israel.
Yes, yes goy, Israel is peaceful country we just want to live in peace, help us remove terrorists!
-
"Palestine" is already free. They can always lay down their weapons and live in Israel.
-
This part is entirely unrelated to the whole topic. I can also rant about certain people expressing their sexuality disproportionally as well but I won't, so I hope you'll respect for people's sake to do the same on this topic. If you want to rant about the bad and agressive Islam, start another topic about it and I'll gladly reply. :)
This is related towards the topic, as I was replying on this 'Muslim-discussion'. But apparently you're just reading it on your way, which is totally fine but don't come up with this chitchat then, thanks.
All arabs want is not free Palestine actually , but getting rid of Israel.
What a stereotype for your people, having so much trouble with people disrespecting Arabs and not trusting them anymore. Instead of trying to improve that image, you just said something a lot of people accuse Arabs for. You're not changing anything. Well done, son!
-
I am not against Muslims but stop hiding the fact they sometimes breach the peace with disgusting terrorism acts. I am obviously not judging any of the good ones, but as long as bombings, murders and these disgusting actions are done in 'name of Allah', sorry ... but that totally f**ks up the whole image of your religion. It would be good if higher Muslim-people, with a big reputation, would step up against these idiots and say: "NOW IT'S OVER". But no-one does that and they can continue doing in name of Allah and shouting: "Allahu akbar" whenever they blow up something, once against this is not meant racist but as long as I hear that I link it with the religion and I honestly think it's a pretty aggressive religion, I'm sorry. But that's also based on the opinions against homosexuality, woman and all these things - come on, we live in 2014!
You think Muslims find it fun to bomb stuff? You think it's a hobby or something?
Acts like these are done out of self-defence, honor and common sense. Wouldn't you stand up for yourself if someone knocked on your door right now and gave you the choice to either leave your house - where your family and ancestors have lived for ages - or get killed? Of course you would defend yourself, no matter what.
The Israelian acts have gone way too far, this isn't even worth being called a war - considering the Palestinians don't even have an army - this is a genocide. What (probably) happened to the Jews in 1935 is happening to the Muslims in 2014, and the world doesn't give two flying f**ks about it.
Come on, we live in 2014!
Right?
What a stereotype for your people, having so much trouble with people disrespecting Arabs and not trusting them anymore. Instead of trying to improve that image, you just said something a lot of people accuse Arabs for. You're not changing anything. Well done, son!
Keep in mind you're probably talking to a 12/13 year-old. Do you really consider kids a threat?
Perfect zionist material, in that case.
EDIT: Seen a lot of people saying stuff like ''but hamas hides behind innocent civilians omg'', let me tell you a little secret; the people are Hamas. The ones who go under the name are family and acquaintances of eachother, and they all have the same goal; being free of all the wrongdoings done to them.
Funny how so many people blindly believe the media and let their opinion be influenced by it.
-
"In 1946, Transjordan gained independence from the British Mandate for Palestine."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine
Now (Trans)Jordan ain't what we're talking about in here now is it.
-
I really do not care whether I am talking to a 12 year old kid, 20 year old guy or a 64 year old man. Age should not matter when you want to share these comments, seriously it's even more of a shock when a kid says that. You bring up the fact that the media is changing up stories and bringing it different, I'm sorry but what about this kid who said this then? He's probably been raised by his parents teaching him Israeli's are bad.
And I frequently come to the conclusion there is a lot of hatred against Jews from the Muslim-side and looking at the fact the biggest part of Israel is Jewish and the biggest part of Palestina is Muslim - we have found the biggest issue here: religion causes war. Even if Israel stops replying on the assaults and give Palestina 'their land', they will continue being assaulted because the hatred against Jews is pretty high. For the Israeli-side, with the World War 2 in their mind, they are not gonna let something like that happen again and therefor I can understand their aggressive attitude. But I do NOT agree with it, because war is bad on itself.
In general, so not only this war, we would be better off if people would accept eachothers religions. For example, look at places in the Middle-East where riots started. The only goal is to push through another culture, religion and leadership - if we all started to accept our own places and culture, it would be better. You can't just come in somewhere, attempt to push your own culture through and cause a huge fight. No, you adapt to the country's standards, culture and laws - and the most important thing: you have respect for eachother.
If the world would understand that, there might be a chance some wars will end. But until that, we won't change anything and will only f**k up eachother.
-
You think Muslims find it fun to bomb stuff? You think it's a hobby or something?
Acts like these are done out of self-defence, honor and common sense.
Muslims bombing buses and malls are done out of self-defence, honor and common sense?
That is so wrong on so many levels. Disgusting.
No wonder the world sympathizes with Israel.
-
No wonder the world sympathizes with Israel.
Are you serious?
-
Are you serious?
he is, and by the world he doesn't mean 14 year old players on argonath sitting behind a PC blaming israel.
-
Thanks for proving my point that you're unable to answer with a plausible argument. :lol:
you've already proved that on yourself, getting stuck to the argument 'israel is killing innocent people' when i already proved you its not our fault.
-
No wonder the world sympathizes with Israel.
LOL - Lots of laughter - hahaha - laugh my ass off - rolling on floor laughing - hue hue hue- jaja .
Wait wait wait, were you being serious? Damn....... Well... Bad news son. The world... Doesn't :/. Sorry to burst that bubble of yours!
London:
(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/main_image_article_page/public/main-images/london%205_0.jpg?itok=SwXhRcGi)
Indonesia:
(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_large/public/images/INDONESIA%20AA.jpg?itok=KaHyR8yf)
Greece:
(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_large/public/images/aa-%20protest%20for%20Gaza%20in%20ATHENS.jpg?itok=QKZybGsr)
Indonesia:
(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_large/public/images/AA%20-%20PROTEST%20IN%20jAKARTA%20FOR%20GAZA.jpg?itok=QnaU5StB)
Tunisia:
(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_large/public/images/tunisia%20aa.jpg?itok=9TA3l7jN)
South Africa:
(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_large/public/images/pretoria%20aa.jpg?itok=_qogu5DQ)
Belgium:
(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_large/public/images/beligium%20aa.jpg?itok=n69FAqSX)
France:
(http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_large/public/images/PARIS%20AFP.jpg?itok=DPxBHOOl)
Ireland:
(http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1864825.1405183445!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
Also... In the U.S:
New York:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsMEgEGIEAAXtld.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsMEgBsIYAAfNJl.jpg)
Chicago:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsMl53ICUAAlN2s.jpg:large)
Philadelphia:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsSlEnFCEAAi2zO.jpg)
And many moreee.....
Canada:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsTDltsIgAEc_c2.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsTE-QgCEAAiNjn.jpg:large)
There's a loooot more so I'll just slip this (http://revolution-news.com/global-protests-peace-palestine/) and you can check for yourself then :D. Buhbye.
-
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=939_1405115171
and thats what happens after-
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-orders-civilians-to-die-in-israeli-airstrikes/
-
Not sure who removed my post, sad to know people can't face the truth.
-
Not sure who removed my post, sad to know people can't face the truth.
Nothing in this topic has been edited or removed since the 11th of July.
-
Sad to see only one arabian country (Tunisia) rioting against that "country".
you've already proved that on yourself, getting stuck to the argument 'israel is killing innocent people' when i already proved you its not our fault.
Israël started to steal the land on 50s, Hamas founded on 80s
Ps. Iwill come to you tomorrow Nexxt I have to sleep. .
-
Sad to see only one arabian country (Tunisia) rioting against that "country".
No don't worry they protested in Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Jordan, Morocco, Amman....... etc
-
You think Muslims find it fun to bomb stuff? You think it's a hobby or something?
Acts like these are done out of self-defence, honor and common sense. Wouldn't you stand up for yourself if someone knocked
Do people here actully agree with this statement? This is how extremists think.
-
he is, and by the world he doesn't mean 14 year old players on argonath sitting behind a PC blaming israel.
Jews sympathize with themselves, in example Milano Rosso "im a muslim but i support glorious israel and its people!!!!1"... yeh right.
Europe is either neutral or doesn't like the Jews, many even hate them.
-
No don't worry they protested in Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Jordan, Morocco, Amman....... etc
Oh nice
And I frequently come to the conclusion there is a lot of hatred against Jews from the Muslim-side and looking at the fact the biggest part of Israel is Jewish and the biggest part of Palestina is Muslim - we have found the biggest issue here: religion causes war. Even if Israel stops replying on the assaults and give Palestina 'their land', they will continue being assaulted because the hatred against Jews is pretty high. For the Israeli-side, with the World War 2 in their mind, they are not gonna let something like that happen again and therefor I can understand their aggressive attitude. But I do NOT agree with it, because war is bad on itself.
Then, Jews wouldn't be able to enter Tunisia to do their "Haj" in Djerba as it's a Muslim country and Judaism and Islam are hating each-other, no.
Both religions are to respect ANY religion around the whole world but both religions too are to advise any human to their religion and explain to him WHY. So, the matter iss not a religion war or what-ever you're calling. It's "Israel" and "Palestine" the stolen land back in 50s that want they and the most of the world want their freedom. And the history has proved that even Israel attacked south Lebanon to take over their land, Egypt to take over Sinna, why? For their "protection" from the other countries around them... Oh wait sorry it's not their fault..
-
Bundy made my day. I lol'd ^. Exploading yourself on people out of self defence, honor and common sense, yeah, pretty logical.
Really, none of this would have happend if it wasn't for religion as Nexxt said.
Personally, from an atheist side who lives in Israel I hope they just stop rockets, and also hope that this time the IDF will go all the way to the end to make this stop. They (Palestineins) defenentily are pissing me off . 4th time an alarm goes off in 3 days here in my city.
-
This is related towards the topic, as I was replying on this 'Muslim-discussion'. But apparently you're just reading it on your way, which is totally fine but don't come up with this chitchat then, thanks.
The discussion is about Palestina, not Islam.
you've already proved that on yourself, getting stuck to the argument 'israel is killing innocent people' when i already proved you its not our fault.
No you didn't, you never backed anything up you said whereas I did, at which point you circlejerk your recycled argumentation again without any back up. I can't get 'stuck' on a subject if the subject is still on-going and central point of discussion, which is the death of hundred innocents.
"Palestine" is already free. They can always lay down their weapons and live in Israel.
Literally repressing and driving non-Jews out of their homes to this date in order to expand Israel. One of the lesser known cases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
Nice freedom. :lol:
-
I have only one thing to say about all of this: Israel is strong, Israel will continue to be strong, no one can stop us from completing what should've been already completed years ago. And not even the 900 rockets which were fired during the six days and will be fired.
-
I have only one thing to say about all of this: Israel is strong, Israel will continue to be strong, no one can stop us from completing what should've been already completed years ago. And not even the 900 rockets which were fired during the six days and will be fired.
+1
.
No you didn't, you never backed anything up you said whereas I did, at which point you circlejerk your recycled argumentation again without any back up. I can't get 'stuck' on a subject if the subject is still on-going and central point of discussion, which is the death of hundred innocents.
are you blind? check the video i posted and then the link. you see as i said you keep getting stuck on the argument on 'hundred innocents killed'.
hamas is throwing rockets to israel 24/7, assaulting us and then when we want to shoot back rockets to destroy thier armoury we WARN the citizens to LEAVE the scene before we do, but hamas orders them to stay so thier armoury wont go boom. if you're still gonna say israel is guilty then you are not worth to argue with.
there is the video of the IDF warning citizens and checking the scene and when they see there are citizens they DONT shoot -
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=939_1405115171
and now here is how hamas re acts:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-orders-civilians-to-die-in-israeli-airstrikes/
-
#Israel
-
+1are you blind? check the video i posted and then the link. you see as i said you keep getting stuck on the argument on 'hundred innocents killed'.
I can't get 'stuck' on a subject if the subject is still on-going and central point of discussion, which is the death of hundred innocents.
160 dead innocents by now actually. Stop circlejerking and ignoring what I said. If you can't reply, don't reply.
hamas is throwing rockets to israel 24/7, assaulting us and then when we want to shoot back rockets to destroy thier armoury we WARN the citizens to LEAVE the scene before we do, but hamas orders them to stay so thier armoury wont go boom. if you're still gonna say israel is guilty then you are not worth to argue with.
Yet 160 died already. You think they would listen to someone telling them to stay inside their home if their life depended on it? It has been proven that the hundreds killed are mostly entirely innocent and have zero ties with Hamas. 1/3 of that number are kids. You think they are terrorists as well, or have ties with Hamas? Hamas has just proven the world how immoral Israel is and what they will do in order to stay in charge, including killing innocents.
there is the video of the IDF warning citizens and checking the scene and when they see there are citizens they DONT shoot -
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=939_1405115171
and now here is how hamas re acts:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-orders-civilians-to-die-in-israeli-airstrikes/
And again I repeat: If so many precautions are taken, why are 160 killed by now? Your asspulled statement of 'Hamas forcing citizens to stay inside' is bullshit as well.
I have only one thing to say about all of this: Israel is strong, Israel will continue to be strong, no one can stop us from completing what should've been already completed years ago. And not even the 900 rockets which were fired during the six days and will be fired.
You almost sounded like Hitler, good job. :app:
Face it: Israel is an illegal state that was never supposed to exist. Israel and the Levant in general have been Arab/Muslim majority since the 2nd century. Palestine was also majority Arab/Muslim in 1946. Because of a document that wasn't even majority-voted by non-Jews and non-Allied (wwII), the state was established after a war. More and more Palestinian areas have been colonized every time, to this day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement
Israel needs to quit pretending like this whole Hamas thing is sporadic. Groups like Hamas, like the IRA, form when you don't give people any other alternatives.
When you force people from their homes at the barrel of the gun and giving them no other options but to "leave" you will find these people will starve to death. Starvation is the recipe for bloodshed because when you strip a human being down to their lowest needs that's when things get really ugly.
http://electronicintifada.net/content/israels-starvation-diet-gaza/11810
Hell, even jews themselves don't support the Zionist vision and Israeli state, a thousand have marched today through the streets of NY. http://nl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mydtg8&s=8#.U8L4V_l_vNE
If you support Israel and justify its actions with your full cause, you are no better than a national socialist really. This video is a good example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBdRFWAYkBk
with the perfect description of what you are supporting:
"Zionism is a secular nationalistic movement that uses and abuses Jewish religion for its own needs and is also closely linked to European fascism. It is therefore no coincidence that such expressions of ultra-nationalistic tendencies are backed by pseudo-religious arguments. Yet, as the late Prof. Leibowitz clearly explained: "Religious-nationalism is to religion what National-Socialism is to socialism. National-Socialism is not socialism but its opposite and likewise religious-nationalism is not religion but its opposite."
Israel is a terrorist state, terrorizing innocent people, segregating people and most importantly: support a vision of unequal treatment of 'races', non-jews. Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OkP4RQCMmU
I'll enjoy seeing you trying to talk out of this one. :D
-
160 dead innocents by now actually. Stop circlejerking and ignoring what I said. If you can't reply, don't reply.
you have just proved to me again that you are retarded, good job.
not gonna spend any other second arguing with you, cu
-
you have just proved to me again that you are retarded, good job.
not gonna spend any other second arguing with you, cu
Don't cry, thanku. :lol:
-
Don't cry, thanku. :lol:
why'd i cry beacuse of some ugly people behind a pc lol
-
why'd i cry beacuse of some ugly people behind a pc lol
"I'm unable and incapable of holding argumentation because I cannot back up my asspulled statements so I'll just call everyone retarded and ugly because I'm reflecting my own misery and frustration on an online gaming community."
-Orel
-
Since you guys just continue with fighting after it was clearly told you guys to stop and give arguments about the subject, and not go and fight with each other, this topic is locked.