Palestinian kid kidnapped, tortured, burned, and killed by Israelis in Jerusalem

[Rami]

Occupied East Jerusalem - Dozens of people have been injured in the largest clashes in occupied East Jerusalem in years, as Palestinians fought with police after the mutilated body of a boy was found dumped in a forest outside the city.

The body may belong to Mohammed Abu Khdair, a 17-year-old from the Shuafat neighbourhood, who was abducted on Wednesday morning.

Police say they are investigating whether the murder was a revenge attack, carried out after three kidnapped Israeli settlers were found dead earlier this week in the occupied West Bank.

A police spokesman said Abu Khdair was reported missing early on Wednesday. Witnesses said that he was abducted around 3.45am and thrown into a car by two or three men as he was walking to the mosque.

"I heard screaming outside: 'Mohammed has been kidnapped'," said Abu Moussa Abu Khdair, a cousin who was in the mosque at the time.

"When I ran outside he was gone, and the youth [outside the mosque] said he was taken in a car."

By nightfall, though, the body was still unidentified. DNA samples have been taken as the body was too badly burned to be recognised.

Relatives said his father spent most of the day in a police station.

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The discovery led to more than 12 hours of clashes in Shuafat on Wednesday.

Local Palestinian youths blocked the light railway and threw stones at Israeli border police, who fired stun grenades and rubber-coated steel bullets.

Clashes dragged on throughout the day, despite the summer heat and the Ramadan holiday.


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The heaviest fighting was outside the Abu Khdair family home, and the mosque where he was abducted.

The Palestinian Red Crescent said that more than 50 residents were injured throughout the day; there were no injuries among the police. Among the injured were at least four journalists, including two from Palestine TV, one of whom was seriously injured.

"From 7am the army tried to block off this neighbourhood," said Akram al-Salameh, the owner of a nearby bakery who was wounded.

"They forced me and my employees to leave ... . I think they are taking revenge for what happened," he said, referring to the kidnapping.

The kidnapping happened just hours after a funeral for the three settlers, who were abducted on June 12 while hitchhiking home from their religious seminary in the occupied West Bank.

Their bodies were found on Monday near Hebron, prompting fear of retaliatory attacks against Palestinian citizens of Israel, who make up 20 percent of the population.

Micky Rosenfeld, a spokesman for the Israeli police, said the department was investigating whether the abduction and possible murder were "criminal or nationalistic".

Additional officers have been sent to Jerusalem, where several Palestinian neighbourhoods were closed to traffic, and in northern Israel.

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In a statement, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, called the incident "a heinous murder".

"I call on all sides not to take the law into their own hands. Israel is a nation of laws for all, and all are compelled to follow the law," he said,

Mahmoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinian Authority, demanded that Israel did more to stop future attacks.

Gaza residents testify about the effects Israel and Egypt's blockade of their land has had on their lives.
"We call for providing international protection for the Palestinian people against settlers' attacks that, under the protection of Israeli occupation forces, have continued unabated," he said in a statement.

The mood in Jerusalem, in particular, has been extremely tense since Monday.

Dozens of people were arrested at a right-wing rally on Tuesday night, where protesters chanted "Death to the Arabs".

One man was jailed overnight for attacking a Palestinian worker in a fast-food restaurant in the city, and two other assaults were reported on Tuesday.

"Palestinian blood is no less valuable than the blood of settlers," Ahmed Tibi, a Palestinian member of the Knesset, said during a visit to Shuafat on Wednesday.

Israeli aircraft carried out several strikes in the Gaza Strip early on Thursday, an official and witnesses said, after Palestinians fired rockets into southern Israel. 

At least 10 civilians were injured in the northern Gaza Strip, including a woman who was described as being in critical condition by the Gazan emergency chief Ashraf al-Qedra.

The Israeli government has blamed Hamas for the abduction of the three settlers, and it has carried out dozens of air raids this week in Gaza.

In a statement, Hamas said Israel would "pay the price" for Abu Khdair's abduction: "Our people will not let this crime pass, nor all the killings and destruction by your settlers."

source: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/palestinian-youth-body-found-amid-tension-2014727956766566.html

[Hamza.]

This topic has been re-opened for discussion, and by discussion I mean the actual discussion. Keep this straight, next one provoking and talking non-sense will be directly awarded with a forum mute and warning, with no verbal warning.

[Brian]

As by reading through the old topic, I've been getting information from both sides, and I can agree that both sides are not acting perfect. But thats how the world is.
Constructive critisism on each others posts is fine, provoking is not.

[Rami]

I respect your decisions, but none of this anger would have happened if not for my jealousy over my continuously terrorized people by Israel.

[JDC]

I respect your decisions, but none of this anger would have happened if not for my jealousy over my continuously terrorized people by Israel.

In the real world, your people are not the only ones who feel aggrieved by another party, and neither are the Israelis.

The countries of most users on this forum have one reason or another to feel aggrieved by another country / people as well, but you don't see everyone ranting about it as well in the same way you do. An example would be how China is bullying my country for territory, but you don't see me posting things such as "fuck the chinese" "all chinese are imperialists" etc.

Adding that to the fact that this is a board where discussion is supposed to center around objective facts and healthy criticism thereof, please keep your emotions in check.

[Rami]

In the real world, your people are not the only ones who feel aggrieved by another party, and neither are the Israelis.

The countries of most users on this forum have one reason or another to feel aggrieved by another country / people as well, but you don't see everyone ranting about it as well in the same way you do. An example would be how China is bullying my country for territory, but you don't see me posting things such as "f**k the chinese" "all chinese are imperialists" etc.

Adding that to the fact that this is a board where discussion is supposed to center around objective facts and healthy criticism thereof, please keep your emotions in check.

The situation here is way more that a territory dispute.
You don't see China rocking your territory with the heaviest bombs, destroying its people's houses, burning them to death with White Phosphor thrown from aircraft over overcrowded cities, do you?

[JDC]

The situation here is way more that a territory dispute.
You don't see China rocking your territory with the heaviest bombs, destroying its people's houses, burning them to death with White Phosphor thrown from aircraft over overcrowded cities, do you?

I'm not talking about the scale or intensity of the various situations, something which I am aware of as well.

The point I'm discussing is that in wars and conflict, people on all sides would feel aggrieved, as well as the fact that this board is a platform for objective facts and healthy debate, not propaganda wars.

Discuss your grievances in a proper manner rather than posting propaganda that labels all Israelis as murderers.

[Devin]

The entire topic will be tossed in the trash if this turns into a political or racial argument. Keep that in mind.

[Orel]

The entire topic will be tossed in the trash if this turns into a political or racial argument. Keep that in mind.

unfortunately that will not happen beacuse rami keeps posting bullshit posts with "israel bombing gaza with the heavist weapons" while gaza is bombing israel 24/7 for the last 72 hours.

[Rami]

The entire topic will be tossed in the trash if this turns into a political or racial argument. Keep that in mind.

This exactly what pretty much happens with any political discussion topic, don't expect me to be "too cool" while my people are dying. "Whose hands in water, are not as whose hands in fire".

I'm not talking about the scale or intensity of the various situations, something which I am aware of as well.

The point I'm discussing is that in wars and conflict, people on all sides would feel aggrieved, as well as the fact that this board is a platform for objective facts and healthy debate, not propaganda wars.

Discuss your grievances in a proper manner rather than posting propaganda that labels all Israelis as murderers.

I never claimed all Israelis are murderers, please get your facts right.
I referred to the IOF and illegal settlers that keep constantly attacking the Palestinians of the West Bank and Jerusalem. This is no 'bullshit' I'm saying here, all the assaulting cases are all documented and archived.

unfortunately that will not happen beacuse rami keeps posting bullshit posts with "israel bombing gaza with the heavist weapons" while gaza is bombing israel 24/7 for the last 72 hours.

Yes, Hamas in Gaza has launched rockets against Israel during the last 72 hours, but how many were injured/wounded? Zero.
On the other hand, Israel has been attacking Gaza with continuous airstrikes since the last week, how many were killed? 43 Palestinians, and more than 320 wounded. Along the 43 killed Palestinians 13 children, 9 women who never made it to the hospital but as carnage and totally burnt in some cases. Also, three entire families were targeted the last 72 hours with different Israeli Zionist airkstrikes, all these three families were completely killed, mostly children, women, and old men/women.
They had no any relation with any militants, rockets launching or anything.


As for westerns its an annoying picture to see the reality of the burnt Palestinians here due to the Israeli Zionist airstrikes. It's already too painful for you to see it, how if you were a part of what's going on? That's exactly our situation here.
But I don't think its too painful for you to see a rocket from Gaza hitting an empty open space (Which is mostly it's maximum damage to cause), is it?

So please, don't expect me to be cold and act normal over the unbelievable massacres and the genocides that are being committed against the Palestinians.

P.S.: For those who gonna claim "Israel was attacking the militants who were hiding between the houses, and the killed citizens were only side effects of that strike and not meant to happen on purpose", I've got only one reply to you: If Hamas militants said that when they blow up a bus in Tel Aviv and claim that they only wanted to destroy the bus itself and not the passengers, wouldn't you laugh for that?
Exactly what you claim.

[Orel]

This exactly what pretty much happens with any political discussion topic, don't expect me to be "too cool" while my people are dying. "Whose hands in water, are not as whose hands in fire".

I never claimed all Israelis are murderers, please get your facts right.
I referred to the IOF and illegal settlers that keep constantly attacking the Palestinians of the West Bank and Jerusalem. This is no 'bullshit' I'm saying here, all the assaulting cases are all documented and archived.
Yes, Hamas in Gaza has launched rockets against Israel during the last 72 hours, but how many were injured/wounded? Zero.
On the other hand, Israel has been attacking Gaza with continuous airstrikes since the last week, how many were killed? 43 Palestinians, and more than 320 wounded. Along the 43 killed Palestinians 13 children, 9 women who never made it to the hospital but as carnage and totally burnt in some cases. Also, three entire families were targeted the last 72 hours with different Israeli Zionist airkstrikes, all these three families were completely killed, mostly children, women, and old men/women.
They had no any relation with any militants, rockets launching or anything.


As for westerns its an annoying picture to see the reality of the burnt Palestinians here due to the Israeli Zionist airstrikes. It's already too painful for you to see it, how if you were a part of what's going on? That's exactly our situation here.
But I don't think its too painful for you to see a rocket from Gaza hitting an empty open space (Which is mostly it's maximum damage to cause), is it?

So please, don't expect me to be cold and act normal over the unbelievable massacres and the genocides that are being committed against the Palestinians.

P.S.: For those who gonna claim "Israel was attacking the militants who were hiding between the houses, and the killed citizens were only side effects of that strike and not meant to happen on purpose", I've got only one reply to you: If Hamas militants said that when they blow up a bus in Tel Aviv and claim that they only wanted to destroy the bus itself and not the passengers, wouldn't you laugh for that?
Exactly what you claim.

as i already said we have got the dome working and rockets coming from gaza are intercepted in the air. you know how much each cash intercepting a rocket costs? x5 more than your house.
so please, rockets from gaza needs to stop and that is why israel is attacking back, we are trying to focus on the hamas armouries and such but when your pro hamas go and hide behind innocent citizens this is not our problem. you want to blame someone for innocent palestines dieing? blame hamas. you know where the head of hamas sits? in the middle of a hospital in Gaza, and that's a place idf will never attack beacuse of the people there.
and rami, please stop bullshitting with the shit pictures you give, they are from syria war where assad kills innocent palestines aswell and you dont even dare saying anything about him, he's throwing chimical rockets at them and you give me pictures from there, gg

[JDC]

The entire topic will be tossed in the trash if this turns into a political or racial argument. Keep that in mind.

I see one post was not enough for people in this topic to get the point.

People die everyday, that is the reality of war. If Hamas hides in the mist of innocent people, it's on them, not you. If the Israeli government ends up blowing some innocent people as a result of Hamas hiding in the midst of those innocent people, it's on them, not you.

A much better trail for this topic would be to discuss why the war is happening in the first place, and what can be done to resolve the conflict. Not like our words here will affect the outside world, this being a gaming forum, but there's nothing wrong with healthy, albeit theoretical discussion. No need to go at each other's thraots and get all personal.

[ClazzyJogel]

Yes, Hamas in Gaza has launched rockets against Israel during the last 72 hours, but how many were injured/wounded? Zero.
On the other hand, Israel has been attacking Gaza with continuous airstrikes since the last week, how many were killed? 43 Palestinians, and more than 320 wounded. Along the 43 killed Palestinians 13 children, 9 women who never made it to the hospital but as carnage and totally burnt in some cases. Also, three entire families were targeted the last 72 hours with different Israeli Zionist airkstrikes, all these three families were completely killed, mostly children, women, and old men/women.
They had no any relation with any militants, rockets launching or anything.

If Israel wanted to blow the Palestinians to pieces, they could have so many times over. If they do however open fire, it is directly targeted towards the Hamas terrorists. Hamas is a terrorist organization that oppresses their own people and blames the Israeli. Israel has bent over backwards throughout the years to help the Palestinians with medical, food, etc. It is the Hamas that is keeping their own in dire straights. Those palestinians killed by Israel were militants who were firing rockets into Israel. Not innocent civilians.

When the innocent 15 year old Palestinian got murdered and burned alive, Israel authorities caught the six extremists and charged them.
Quote from the Israeli Prime Minister: "We acted immediately to apprehend the murderes. We will bring them to trail and they will be dealt to the fullest extent of the law" (Associate Press). You see that is the differance between the Israeli and Palestine authorities. On the other hand, the Palestinian authorites didn't do anything to track down who killed the three Jews. In fact, Palestinians celebrated it. This is not just some random occurrence, this is the mindset of many Palestinians.

[Borus]

If Israel wanted to blow the Palestinians to pieces, they could have so many times over.

If they'd do that, they would stop receiving US support, which would be a suicide act for Israel as it would undoubtedly provoke a war with its neighboors.

If they do however open fire, it is directly targeted towards the Hamas terrorists. Hamas is a terrorist organization that oppresses their own people and blames the Israeli.

So all Palestinians are terrorists now? :|

Israel has bent over backwards throughout the years to help the Palestinians with medical, food, etc. It is the Hamas that is keeping their own in dire straights.

So if you send a million, and then do damage up to billions, it's okay because you were trying to help anyway?

Those palestinians killed by Israel were militants who were firing rockets into Israel. Not innocent civilians.

Funny thing is that if I read the BBC or CNN, I see the words 'fighting' and 'defence by Israel', whereas if I read Belgian news, I see Palestinian civilian victims mentioned in every article about Israel. I see Belgium as a pretty neutral refering point for this conflict, and thus am gonna need a source on your statement that claims 'only militants' were killled recently.

When the innocent 15 year old Palestinian got murdered and burned alive, Israel authorities caught the six extremists and charged them.
Quote from the Israeli Prime Minister: "We acted immediately to apprehend the murderes. We will bring them to trail and they will be dealt to the fullest extent of the law" (Associate Press). You see that is the differance between the Israeli and Palestine authorities.

There certainly is a difference. Just not this one, as it's pretty much bullshit. You see, there is actually a difference between people, authority and a terrorist cell. :O

On the other hand, the Palestinian authorites didn't do anything to track down who killed the three Jews. In fact, Palestinians celebrated it.

So when Israel suffers a loss, it's the Palestinians. But when there's a rocket send from Gaza that has been shot down mid-air with no Israeli victims, it's the terrorists. Damn, that's a pretty easy way of thinking to not be forced facing facts.

This is not just some random occurrence, this is the mindset of many Palestinians.

But the mindset of 'Palestinians are all terrorists' is exactly why Israel is bombing innocents right now, right? It seems to me that when it's convenient, all Palestinians are suddenly terrorists to you and Israel.

[Orel]

If they'd do that, they would stop receiving US support, which would be a suicide act for Israel as it would undoubtedly provoke a war with its neighboors.
So all Palestinians are terrorists now? :|
So if you send a million, and then do damage up to billions, it's okay because you were trying to help anyway?
Funny thing is that if I read the BBC or CNN, I see the words 'fighting' and 'defence by Israel', whereas if I read Belgian news, I see Palestinian civilian victims mentioned in every article about Israel. I see Belgium as a pretty neutral refering point for this conflict, and thus am gonna need a source on your statement that claims 'only militants' were killled recently.
There certainly is a difference. Just not this one, as it's pretty much bullshit. You see, there is actually a difference between people, authority and a terrorist cell. :O
So when Israel suffers a loss, it's the Palestinians. But when there's a rocket send from Gaza that has been shot down mid-air with no Israeli victims, it's the terrorists. Damn, that's a pretty easy way of thinking to not be forced facing facts.
But the mindset of 'Palestinians are all terrorists' is exactly why Israel is bombing innocents right now, right? It seems to me that when it's convenient, all Palestinians are suddenly terrorists to you and Israel.

where did he say that all the palestines are terrorists? damn no.
even if the rocket was intercepted in the air it costs us money you know, and it's far from being cheap. why do hamas hide behind innocent civilian? they are the ones to make the innocent people get killed, not us.
i want to see if that would be putin, do you think he'd even think twice? we are actually trying to destroy as less as possible but when you keep sending more than 100 rockets to us we are not gonna sit quiet waiting for something to actually blow up.
and for your information iron dome is 80 percent success, so there is a chance the rocket will pass by it and blow up, and that already happened couple of times.