Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Zaila on July 24, 2014, 01:28:41 am
-
Several changes in the drug script is gonna make it on the server within the next couple of days after we have tweaked some numbers.
Bug fixes
*You will now be able to harvest weed and collect heroin, even if the spots has changed before the weed plant has grown up or the ordered heroin has been delivered.
*Ordering heroin is now working the same as growing weed. The heroin script is not depending on the player being online anymore.
Options when growing weed or ordering heroin
The 3 different options are gone. This has been done for several reasons, the biggest one is the drug market. It was really hard to balance the drug market with all the options which is why we have decided to get rid of the options. However, you still need seeds to grow weed, but it is now called just seeds.
But what happends with my current seeds then?
Small Seeds are now called just seeds and is the seed used to growing weed. You can convert your medium and big seeds by using /convertseeds ingame after these changes are in place. If you have no normal seeds but 10 medium seeds and 10 big seeds, the medium and big seeds will convert to seeds and you will have 20 seeds. Nothing will be lost and you will never be able to buy medium and big seeds anymore.
Purchasing seeds
You are not purchasing seeds through businesses anymore. Instead, you purchase seeds at drug markets with /buyseeds. Each seed cost $70. We will make up to the business owners and add new types of items to be purchaseable in businesses, such as health regenative items. This is however work for the future.
Market Changes
We are going back to our original plan, which was allowing only official criminal group leaders to be able to sell to the drug market.
The different prices for different groups will be removed for now, but might be brought back in the future when we got more official criminal groups.
The Drug Market prices has been tweaked with these new changes, however nothing is set in stone yet. I will collect feedback from a few community members which has been actively trying to help us to improve the drug script.
-
Nice, you just stopped me from reporting some bugs in the system. :P
-
Market Changes
We are going back to our original plan, which was allowing only official criminal group leaders to be able to sell to the drug market.
Leaders might not always be available... What if grouplevel higher than 97/98 is considered as leader ?
-
@Stivi group leaders can set which rank sell to market.
-
Growing drugs is boring as hell, by the way, is growing weed still legal in Rs5?
-
How much can I harvest with a regular ''seed''?
-
There has been some more changes made.
Lowest amount of drugs you can sell to the market has been lowered to 1k. This might change in the future.
I have gone back partially on that official group leaders only should be able to sell drugs to the market. As of now, group leaders of recognized groups will be able to do so aswell. If we have enough official groups that is active in the future, this might be changed back.
All these changes will be deployed on the server later this evening.
-
There has been some more changes made.
Lowest amount of drugs you can sell to the market has been lowered to 1k. This might change in the future.
I have gone back partially on that official group leaders only should be able to sell drugs to the market. As of now, group leaders of recognized groups will be able to do so aswell. If we have enough official groups that is active in the future, this might be changed back.
All these changes will be deployed on the server later this evening.
Normal groups are now ripped off!
-
Normal groups are now ripped off!
No, they should be more motivated now. ;)
EDIT: Will the drug market prices change ?
-
No, they should be more motivated now. ;)
Not really.
-
Not really.
Yes really.
By giving them a "disadvantage" they should look on themselves and try to be better as well as get recognized/official.
-
These changes are live now.
Not really.
Yes really. The drug market is not here to completly kill the player to player dealing which is why we have done it like this. If we would let every criminal group leader getting access to it, then people would just team up in getting a "group" and telling us they have 5 members, create a new topic and just wait 2 weeks and then get a manager to create their group, then "close" it and keep the access so they themself can sell to the drug market.
-
The price really sucks, considering everyone bought at a higher price when they had the chance.
-
The price really sucks, considering everyone bought at a higher price when they had the chance.
Prices should change at every script restart.
-
Prices should change at every script restart.
Yes, but $8/g or $5/g is too low.
-
Prices should change at every script restart.
Well isn't there like a standard? I mean like 30-50$/g or something?
-
Well isn't there like a standard? I mean like 30-50$/g or something?
I am pretty sure the drug market and the cost of seeds/g ratio will set the price of player to player business deals. This is where the free market will set the price, at least it should.
-
What about the players who bought weed for a high price back in the old system and now they can't sell it because nobody offers the same prices anymore?
-
What about the players who bought weed for a high price back in the old system and now they can't sell it because nobody offers the same prices anymore?
I'm pretty sure the low drug prices on the market is to keep the economy in check. It's perfectly fine to keep the prices down if all other prices are scaled accordingly.
Inflation can be a bad girl, especially if it's this early into RS5.
Edit: Besides, there are so many weed and heroin spots now, so in the end, you'll probably end up getting as much money for drugs as you did in RS4, if you work hard enough.
-
Hello
Before these changes happened, I was actively collecting drugs from multiple players, some freelancers and some groups. And I wasn't the only one out there, doing the same thing. I'm not a person that grows, so I can't tell wether there is profit from those who buy a seed at $70 and then sell $10/g (, maybe more or less, depends on the seller/buyer ). However, what I have noticed is that, for people like me, who buy and sell, there's no profit, at all. And from all the drugs I collected before the changes, if I sell them right now I would lose more than half a million dollars. That's a lot of money, so what do I do now ? I stash them, for no reason, hoping for a high price, someday.
When I used to login my PM used to get spammed with "buy weed/heroin?" "sell weed to me, i buy high price!!!11", etc. Now ? I only get few people I know telling me to buy their weed at $10/g because they are in need of quick-cash.
Taking a look at previous attempts to increase the drug market prices, which is, if you haven't noticed, what I'm trying to do now, we used to get replies such as: "Drugs are not ment to be a money-making method." But hey, are you guys out of your mind ? Drugs are a money-making method! They have high risks, yet the income is so small you will lose cash into it. People bought drugs at 35/g+. Now you guys will force them to sell at $10 ? If that's what you are looking forward to see happening in the server, you might as well wait two days for everyone to sell and then remove drugs from the server, no one is using them anyway.
Zaila, or any other HQ member that is in knowledge of the math being used behind the script, can you please share the worst and best scenarios from dealing weed ?
How much does one seed produce ?
How much is the minimum price you can get from Drug Market ?
How much is the maximum price you can get from Drug Market ?
Thank you.
-
They have high risks, yet the income is so small you will lose cash into it.
There is basically no risk with weed, and very low with heroin...
-
There is basically no risk with weed, and very low with heroin...
No risk with weed?
1. You can get caught durring a drug deal.
2. You can get scammed by the other guy.
3. You can die before getting yourself home.
4. You can die while transporting your drugs to the drug market.
5. You can die/lose your drugs when growing/ordering them.
And it took me like 5 seconds to think of them... imagine if I had mroe time...
And about heroin just addL
6. You can get caught ordering heroin.
-
No risk with weed?
1. You can get caught durring a drug deal.
2. You can get scammed by the other guy.
3. You can die before getting yourself home.
4. You can die while transporting your drugs to the drug market.
5. You can die/lose your drugs when growing/ordering them.
And it took me like 5 seconds to think of them... imagine if I had mroe time...
And about heroin just addL
6. You can get caught ordering heroin.
1. Easy to avoid.
2. There are methods to avoid (heavy) losses.
3. This is just you being a bad driver.
4. ^
5. If you are threatened by players, you can deal with that (if necessary, shoot them, and if you are bad, just train, it's easy to kick ass). Other than that, ^.
6. Easy to avoid, as well.
-
No risk with weed?
1. You can get caught durring a drug deal.
2. You can get scammed by the other guy.
3. You can die before getting yourself home.
4. You can die while transporting your drugs to the drug market.
5. You can die/lose your drugs when growing/ordering them.
And it took me like 5 seconds to think of them... imagine if I had mroe time...
And about heroin just addL
6. You can get caught ordering heroin.
All these 6 types of "risk" have nothing to do with what Stivi means as "risk", though.
-
Risk is cops, nuff' said. They may not see 10 grams, but they will definitely see 10KG+.
-
Well there are many times when you are one and they are 5 in this case believe me no matter how good a driver you are with the wrong vehicles you will get caught... And the officers are also part of the risk... But i guess this price change should also be considered???
-
Well there are many times when you are one and they are 5 in this case believe me no matter how good a driver you are with the wrong vehicles you will get caught... And the officers are also part of the risk... But i guess this price change should also be considered???
Doesn't matter, if there's cops and drugs, you're going to end up being arrested/killed.
-
Doesn't matter, if there's cops and drugs, you're going to end up being arrested/killed.
We went off topic though... even though I wasn't stacking drugs, I still would like to know how it iwll end for you guys... Coz it is unfair...