Even losses health and weapon and last position :(This happens when the first login attempt has failed. On the second attempt you will lose health/weapons/last position
This happens when the first login attempt has failed. On the second attempt you will lose health/weapons/last positionThis happen to me almost "everytime" i login into server..
This happens when the first login attempt has failed. On the second attempt you will lose health/weapons/last positionI never fail a login attempt.
Why not use Gimlis server? I heard it has better protection.Why use Gimli's server when we can just blame him for the DDoS? :gand:
Why not use Gimlis server? I heard it has better protection.that, and my idea would really work out
Why not use Gimlis server? I heard it has better protection.
Only few players less than 15 appear onlineIts 7am lol
Its too boaring ........
Why not use Gimlis server? I heard it has better protection.
It looks like MTA:SA working just fine.
Why not use Gimlis server? I heard it has better protection.
Why not use Gimlis server? I heard it has better protection.
Just a heads up, when we have issues within the server try not to assume its a attack or "you know who".Unfortunately most of the time it's one of those two. :)
We wouldn't have to run round like headless chickens saying "DDoS?" if HQ would give us a heads up on what's happening..Exactly..
aaand again management does not communicate or explain what's going on to the players as they sit in dark :/As much as I like Argonath, it has to be said that it's both the players and the management failing the server, there is no communication which is why so many have left, it is why so many have just given up, it doesn't look like anything is being done to improve anything anymore.
aaand again management does not communicate or explain what's going on to the players as they sit in dark :/
So what do you want to know? The server goes down - Due to a ddos attack.It's not just about the server going down though, there's no updates on what bugs are being fixed or what other things are going to be implemented, it feels like all the people in influential positions can no longer be bothered.
What else is there to say? My hands are tied.
My hands are tied.
So what do you want to know? The server goes down - Due to a ddos attack.
What else is there to say? My hands are tied.
I can't believe the need of playing GTA is so strong, that people are so obsessed with it. If you are so into games , there is always more out there. If you are so into talking ,for that you got specificly made websites and programms .I'm not really obsessed with it, it's just that constantly when I try to join the server is down and I'm unable to play, yet theres 0 information regarding why or how long it will last on forums.
If you have other hobbies, spare time on it or do something else besides spaming forum how hard it is and how much you feel harmed about server being down. After ddosers come and make fun of you all and encourage them ddos even more.
I'm not really obsessed with it, it's just that constantly when I try to join the server is down and I'm unable to play, yet theres 0 information regarding why or how long it will last on forums.DDos happens almost on daily basis ,if server would go down for any different reason I asume HQ would notify. Other than that the issue is mainstream.
Lately I've been getting the feeling I'm suprised when Argonath is up and running when it should be vise versa.
I can't believe the need of playing GTA is so strong, that people are so obsessed with it. If you are so into games , there is always more out there. If you are so into talking ,for that you got specificly made websites and programms .Parallel universe.
If you have other hobbies, spare time on it or do something else besides spaming forum how hard it is and how much you feel harmed about server being down. After ddosers come and make fun of you all and encourage them ddos even more.
Matthew raised a great point actually-...Point man, This is why we always having like 50/45 players and in just holidays we have like 60 players
Argonath as a server is trying to gain players right now and trying to advertise, yet when server goes down nothing is done and players are asked to go play another games or do something else. That just makes them interested in either other SA:MP server or another game which will get them hooked and they have no desire to return. Specially if this happens constantly as it is going on right now.
Might aswell just stab Argonath in the neck and be done with it, nobody can be bothered anymore, not even 'HQ'.
Is "world.argonathrpg.eu:7777" Argonaths IP ???
And what makes you say that? I wouldn't be on the forum if I didn't care.I'm not saying you don't care Devin, I like your style of managing - You're not a scripter and you're not the server owner though, and it's them 2 'groups' that seem to keep everyone in the dark on everything, when was the last time a scripter posted in bug reports? To us players it looks like nothing us being done and nothing is being improved.
I am not an sales manager to offer you an product, if you are unable hold your self and stop creating topics every time ddos happens with OMG HQ doesn't cares talk, then offering you anything else is a good choice, yes.This wasn't an "OMG DDOS HELP US" topic, this was a topic to try to find out what is continuously happening and if anything is being done to stop it..
Is "world.argonathrpg.eu:7777" Argonaths IP ???Yes but the server is currently using a temp IP which is offline for now.
It's down, d o w n
is This Magic then ??(http://i59.tinypic.com/2u43rdc.jpg)
wow ser if it wurks why u ask here den
And what makes you say that? I wouldn't be on the forum if I didn't care.
On most occasions nothing is told to players. They just sit and wait in the dark.
Proper action would be to post an information somewhere regarding downtime whih for example should contain following:
Reason server is down: e.g. Script error crashed the server
What's going to happen next: e.g. Cretain script is getting removed
How long it will estimately take to get the server up and running again: e.g. soon as we get hold of <enter a name here> which is approximately in 3 hours.
This would get communication between the managers and players, people woudln't be sitting around wondering when it's gonna be up or if it's gonna take 2 weeks again for him to be able to play again. This is the attitude which makes people leave, they are not informed about server related issues which results in not understandment, but more likely anger and people making up shit accusations.
Parallel universe.
In most "other" communities, management tries to keep and motivate players to stay, meanwhile in Argonath "there are so many more games... what are you waiting for? GO!"
On most occasions nothing is told to players. They just sit and wait in the dark.
Proper action would be to post an information somewhere regarding downtime whih for example should contain following:
Reason server is down: e.g. Script error crashed the server
What's going to happen next: e.g. Cretain script is getting removed
How long it will estimately take to get the server up and running again: e.g. soon as we get hold of <enter a name here> which is approximately in 3 hours.
This would get communication between the managers and players, people woudln't be sitting around wondering when it's gonna be up or if it's gonna take 2 weeks again for him to be able to play again. This is the attitude which makes people leave, they are not informed about server related issues which results in not understandment, but more likely anger and people making up shit accusations.
RS5 on the 92.222.221.246:7777 address is no longer online/hosted there and we will be moving the server back to the Argonath (main) host as soon as possible.
Unfortunately I am not able to give you a timeframe on the completion time or date.
Ah, most of you don't know how depressive it is to be DDoSed and how helpless you are.These '12 year olds' should be easily detected by ISP's and shut offline, if they are not then clearly they are not 12 year olds with petty programmes.
It's like being boxed between 4 walls and you can't go anywhere.
Specially nowadays in SAMP when every 12year old gets his hands on all kinds of devices and tools with which he can do it.
These '12 year olds' should be easily detected by ISP's and shut offline, if they are not then clearly they are not 12 year olds with petty programmes.Proxies.
Once again the server is down and nobody knows anything.
What happened?
When will it be up?
UnknownThis would be more appropriate :)
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Does that answer your question?
Unknown
Unknown
Does that answer your question?
No it really does not.
How is it possible, that when a server goes down NOBODY (including the management) has any idea what happened?
No it really does not.
How is it possible, that when a server goes down NOBODY (including the management) has any idea what happened?
That's to bad then cause that's the only answer we can give.Then why isn't ''that person who isn't around'' giving the appropriate people access? Isn't that the most logical thing to do in such situations? :v:
It's possible since person who has access to the server isn't exactly around so we can't really know what is up. That's what happens when certain people should have access to the server don't, we just sit and wait. No point getting salty over this though everything turns into a drama nowadays.
Then why isn't ''that person who isn't around'' giving the appropriate people access? Isn't that the most logical thing to do in such situations? :v:It be like:
It be like:
Manager: hey, your server went down
- My server?
Manager: yes..?
- Since when do I....OH THAT
- What's the IP again? and do we have forums?
*Manager on forums* Unknown why it's down. Just forget it and wait.
- What did you say, what's the forum url again?
Then why isn't ''that person who isn't around'' giving the appropriate people access? Isn't that the most logical thing to do in such situations? :v:
Cocky Player: Hi ur server is down and you dont know why, pls resignI like that you gave your example player shitty spelling & grammar and immediately strawmanned them with the very first word of your post, that's a really nice touch.
Manager: Speak to Gandalf.
Happy?
This happens for years now and no body actually takes a real action to make it stop.
Well we were told not long ago that the server and forums security were improved and where is the improvement since it happens again and again somebody should really start work and get the things back in line RS4 was constantly getting DDoS now happens the same thing with RS5 which is much more bugged version currently and the constant DDoS won't help in any way solving the bugs and getting the players enjoy there game somebody in this community should start working and currently no body does everybody is standing and looking at the problems but doesn't do a thing to solve them.
That's to bad then cause that's the only answer we can give.I belive that's a point managers should raise with Gandalf themselves, we as community are unaware what rights managers do have and which ones they'd require in addition. If you're leader of the community you should be able to negoitate with the owner of the server yourself and explain why such action is required. Not everything turns into a drama, but 21st century is period of logistics basically, everything is expected to work smoothly, that means when something happens there's notification from managers and people get to work on the problem right away. This is not the WWI when shit goes south you just sit in the bunker and wait, perhaps the backup is comming, perhaps it's not, who knows, nobody cares (if you count out the guys sitting in the bunker and trying to survive ofcourse).
It's possible since person who has access to the server isn't exactly around so we can't really know what is up. That's what happens when certain people should have access to the server don't, we just sit and wait. No point getting salty over this though everything turns into a drama nowadays.
Cocky Player: Hi ur server is down and you dont know why, pls resignJumping right to assault position and basically disrespecting the player who posted previvious post by trying to make him look like a noob (grammar mistakes etc.) To be honest that's not really what manager should be doing.
Manager: Speak to Gandalf.
Happy?
I belive that's a point managers should raise with Gandalf themselves
Gandalf isn't millionaire.Just Russian.
DDoS protection are extremely expensive yet we don't know if they are really efficient.
Gandalf isn't millionaire. He already pays for a lots of servers for us to play for free.
If you want we can charge you 2$ for a changename, 5$ for a vehicle license and so on. So Gandalf would be able to get better protections.For around €50 a month, you can get a decent dedicated server with great DDoS protection. That is nothing compared to the hundreds that are being spent right now.
Just Russian.We have protection from certain attacks. We just don't have military-grade, Fortune 500 corporate anti-DDoS protection.
Also, going around saying we don't have protection is just bad, makes us even more vulnerable to hacker.
We have protection from certain attacks. We just don't have military-grade, Fortune 500 corporate anti-DDoS protection.Fortune 500 companies rely on protection as offered by companies such as Tilera and ArborNetworks. At OVH, those protections are also being used. And all that for €50 a month.
Fortune 500 companies rely on protection as offered by companies such as Tilera and ArborNetworks. At OVH, those protections are also being used. And all that for €50 a month.My friend has OVH VPS, 2.00€, to be precise: 1.99€
I belive that's a point managers should raise with Gandalf themselves, we as community are unaware what rights managers do have and which ones they'd require in addition. If you're leader of the community you should be able to negoitate with the owner of the server yourself and explain why such action is required. Not everything turns into a drama, but 21st century is period of logistics basically, everything is expected to work smoothly, that means when something happens there's notification from managers and people get to work on the problem right away. This is not the WWI when shit goes south you just sit in the bunker and wait, perhaps the backup is comming, perhaps it's not, who knows, nobody cares (if you count out the guys sitting in the bunker and trying to survive ofcourse).
Why should I raise a point with Gandalf when my position as a Manager is to look after the Administration Team, issues with server going down is not my area. Managers don't need access to the server directly as we don't need it and won't ever have it. We aren't developers or Community Leaders we simply monitor and deal with issues relating to Staff (Moderators, Administrators and players for that matter). People don't need to know what rights Managers have or don't it's not for you to know yet I just explained what we're tasked to do.
You think everything is expected to work smoothly? What year you living in 2040?
And bOOOOOOOOm, it's again down.
Why should I raise a point with Gandalf when my position as a Manager is to look after the Administration Team, issues with server going down is not my area. Managers don't need access to the server directly as we don't need it and won't ever have it. We aren't developers or Community Leaders we simply monitor and deal with issues relating to Staff (Moderators, Administrators and players for that matter). People don't need to know what rights Managers have or don't it's not for you to know yet I just explained what we're tasked to do.
You think everything is expected to work smoothly? What year you living in 2040?
Then go post a downtime report, what do you want me to do wave a magic wand and everything will be okay?
Goes it goes down, maybe it's a hint you should go do something else meanwhile.
I actually wanted to stay out of this, but since people just keep saying the same stuff, I guess it's also my turn to make a post.
An answer on a question everyone's wondering, yes everyone.
No, we do NOT know what is going on and we WILL inform you when we do. That's all we can say right now, as we don't know what the issue is either.
Yes, We are trying to contact Gandalf, without success up to yet.
So there you go, and answer for a question a lot of people here are having.
Now on to the point, as a lot of people get pissed or upset about this, so do we, don't think we just sit here and be like 'Oh, we don't care about the server and its players so lets just ignore them and be like mhh, they'll figure it out'. We've been trying to tell you guys this for a long time, we do not know what is going on, and if we do we will inform you guys. And that's what a lot of people are missing and keep blaming it on us.
And now you may be wondering, why do we not have access to what we need yet. Well, Argonath had quite some changes as you all may have seen around, which also includes panels and changes made by Gandalf, there fore we can not do anything, nor see what is wrong at the moment. All we can wait for is Gandalf to show up and tell us. Or the servers to pop up their selves again and we try to figure out what may have caused the downtime.
And now some of you may think, why are you all blaming it on Gandalf, well, answer is as easy as the question asked. Because he is the only one that can currently do something about it. So ye, I hope this ends the discussion of 'why are management not informing us'. Because there is nothing to inform you about.
I actually wanted to stay out of this, but since people just keep saying the same stuff, I guess it's also my turn to make a post.
An answer on a question everyone's wondering, yes everyone.
No, we do NOT know what is going on and we WILL inform you when we do. That's all we can say right now, as we don't know what the issue is either.
Yes, We are trying to contact Gandalf, without success up to yet.
So there you go, and answer for a question a lot of people here are having.
Now on to the point, as a lot of people get pissed or upset about this, so do we, don't think we just sit here and be like 'Oh, we don't care about the server and its players so lets just ignore them and be like mhh, they'll figure it out'. We've been trying to tell you guys this for a long time, we do not know what is going on, and if we do we will inform you guys. And that's what a lot of people are missing and keep blaming it on us.
And now you may be wondering, why do we not have access to what we need yet. Well, Argonath had quite some changes as you all may have seen around, which also includes panels and changes made by Gandalf, there fore we can not do anything, nor see what is wrong at the moment. All we can wait for is Gandalf to show up and tell us. Or the servers to pop up their selves again and we try to figure out what may have caused the downtime.
And now some of you may think, why are you all blaming it on Gandalf, well, answer is as easy as the question asked. Because he is the only one that can currently do something about it. So ye, I hope this ends the discussion of 'why are management not informing us'. Because there is nothing to inform you about.
Then go post a downtime report, what do you want me to do wave a magic wand and everything will be okay?
Goes it goes down, maybe it's a hint you should go do something else meanwhile.
This tone from some managers and the way they communicate is completely unbelivable.
The irony coming from you..
The irony coming from you..Shouldn't you be reading groups' CB chats in your free time instead of posting personal attacks on the forum?
To the defense of the current leadership / management - they really are powerless to help.
This type of attack on this community is illegal.
Surely, we should record the attacker's details and pass them on to the proper authorities (ISP etc) to carry out an investigation. Alternatively, perhaps we should explore what other popular servers have in terms of security arrangements with a view to have our own long term solution to the problem.
In relation to the leadership / management having no say over the introduction or enhancements to RS5 - I think this is shocking since what quality control do we have in place to ensure any enhancements are being made in line with the vision? I think this is the fundamental reason why our server has become a combination of RLRP and freeroam. We're confused whether we are a cat or dog.
Shouldn't you be reading groups' CB chats in your free time instead of posting personal attacks on the forum?
Don't approve on how my team behaves? Then report them to me.
Shouldn't you be reading groups' CB chats in your free time instead of posting personal attacks on the forum?(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/393/i-know-that-feel.jpg)
I'm not saying drop your staff, I'm saying that communication is critical when looking after a community of hundreds upon hundreds of players, especially when trying to attract more to play. It's little things that make players feel more appreciated, as there seem to be a lot of criticism about the lack of clear information, and I'm not sure if there's a silent majority. Stuff like:Your vision for a better community is perhaps one of the most reasonable things ever posted since the advent of RS5. Perhaps you should rise through the ranks and see it implemented :P
- Transparency: maintaining a thread or board for downtime reports. If the server goes down, keep the players in the loop and post a new thread, e.g. "The server was down at {X time} because of {Y reason: a script issue|planned/unplanned maintenance|etc.}. We {are investigating|have resolved} the issue."
If you don't know why the server is down, just say "The server is down for unknown reasons which we are investigating. Updates will be posted as they are available. Even if there isn't much to say, it elicits a better response than only answering when players post threads asking why the server is down.- Remaining professional. If a player is blatantly posting misinformation, explain why they're wrong, but do so in a way that doesn't make it look like a personal attack on them. If they're truly wrong, the community will side with you if you keep your calm, and they'll look like the bad guys.
- Staying focused on the community. If the server does go down, don't tell players to go play somewhere else in the meantime instead of complaining about downtime. If anything, encourage them to go play on some of the other GTA:MP servers that Argonath offers for the time being (which keeps people in the community) or on ParUni.