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Title: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: BarelyVisible on December 15, 2014, 11:29:43 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3gE9C9vITc

This morning an Islamic extremist took as many as 30 people hostage at the Martin Place Lindt cafe in Sydney.
Hostages where seen held at gunpoint and force to hold up Islamic Flags. Building surrounding the siege have been evacuated after the hostage taker claimed to be in possession of an explosive device. 


(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/12/15/1227156/723555-733ed8ec-8400-11e4-a8d6-4d3e748ac3ce.jpg)

So far a total of three hostages have escaped the ordeal alive as negotiations with the Gunman continue.

(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/12/15/1227157/126346-b91da91c-842b-11e4-a2d5-1479387edff1.jpg)

Source: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/martin-place-siege-sydney-cbd-cafe-workers-held-up/story-e6frg6nf-1227156254036
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: TiMoN on December 15, 2014, 11:42:12 am
oh look, an "islamic" terrorist threat, how unusual!
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: PulseEffect on December 15, 2014, 01:14:41 pm
During my whole day in school, nothing was changed although there was a LOT more people coming back from work early in the 3PM Peak.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Axison on December 15, 2014, 01:30:50 pm
Its a serious question, how come when a non-muslim does a crime he is called a criminal but when a muslim does a crime he is called a terrorist, extremist and what not. Not that i support their actions, i just wonder why.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Khm on December 15, 2014, 01:44:06 pm
Its a serious question, how come when a non-muslim does a crime he is called a criminal but when a muslim does a crime he is called a terrorist, extremist and what not. Not that i support their actions, i just wonder why.
Because of racism.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Chris_Knight on December 15, 2014, 02:04:26 pm
Because terrorist demanded hostiges  display an ISIS flags supporting terrorism? Look abit above your own stereotypes sirs.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Martijn on December 15, 2014, 02:06:42 pm
Yep, it's also big news in the Netherlands.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Sweeper on December 15, 2014, 02:06:59 pm
Because of racism.

What nuanced.

Its a serious question, how come when a non-muslim does a crime he is called a criminal but when a muslim does a crime he is called a terrorist, extremist and what not. Not that i support their actions, i just wonder why.

The word terrorist has a definition. That's why this man can be called a terrorist, not because he's a muslim.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: kareem mustafa on December 15, 2014, 02:48:55 pm
Enough lying
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: ssaammee on December 15, 2014, 02:52:50 pm
Its a serious question, how come when a non-muslim does a crime he is called a criminal but when a muslim does a crime he is called a terrorist, extremist and what not. Not that i support their actions, i just wonder why.

If you knew the definition of terrorism.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/UNSWLJ/2004/22.html
https://www.secure.nsw.gov.au/Legislation/Terrorism-and-the-law.aspx
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition

A few definitions of the word above. There's no doubt what this man's intention is. It's a terrorist act.

It has nothting to do whether they are muslims or christians. Ku Klux Klan is classified as a notorious terrorist organization as well. I am not sure how active they are nowadays though.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Sweeper on December 15, 2014, 02:56:09 pm
Enough lying

What is the truth in your eyes?
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: kareem mustafa on December 15, 2014, 02:57:51 pm
these pictures aren't prove
 he is a
Muslim
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Axison on December 15, 2014, 02:59:01 pm
Aight thanks for clearing up a bit.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: ssaammee on December 15, 2014, 03:02:54 pm
these pictures aren't prove
 he is a
Muslim

No, but he demands an Islamic state flag in case you missed that part. It could show where he has his sympathies.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: kareem mustafa on December 15, 2014, 03:06:48 pm
No, but he demands an Islamic state flag in case you missed that part. It could show where he has his sympathies.
we don't know who put this flag
are we?
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: psyron on December 15, 2014, 03:09:51 pm
more act of terrorism... my condolences to the hostages whos going through a hard time

Israel attacks Gaza

dont change the topic.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: PulseEffect on December 15, 2014, 03:10:57 pm
No, but he demands an Islamic state flag in case you missed that part. It could show where he has his sympathies.

It's not an Islamic State Flag that has been put up in the window that has gone around the world, it's a different message as translated it is "There is no God but Allah" and "Mohammed is the messenger of God". This is a statement of faith that is taken by Muslims. It's not an Islamic State flag.

Furthermore, his name has been confirmed as Man Haron Monis, who is an Iranian cleric who was held on criminal charges prior to the siege. Being held on apparently up to 40 (update: 26) charges of sexual assault and such.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: kareem mustafa on December 15, 2014, 03:12:38 pm
I just watched it on majid channel
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: ssaammee on December 15, 2014, 03:14:34 pm
It's not an Islamic State Flag that has been put up in the window that has gone around the world, it's a different message as translated it is "There is no God but Allah" and "Mohammed is the messenger of God. This is a statement of faith that is taken by Muslims. It's not an Islamic State flag.

Furthermore, his name has been confirmed as Man Haron Monis, who is an Iranian cleric who was held on criminal charges prior to the siege. Being held on apparently up to 40 charges of sexual assault and such.

No, it's not. But he demands one to be delivered to him.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: PulseEffect on December 15, 2014, 03:16:22 pm
No, it's not. But he demands one to be delivered to him.

Actually where have you gotten this? The NSW Police haven't released ANY details regarding demands.

For those who want Australian coverage - http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: BarelyVisible on December 15, 2014, 03:17:06 pm
Update

Another 2 hostages have been released for a total of 5. Police have ordered media to not publish the demands of the Gunman.

It is currently 1:14AM in Sydney, the siege is expected to carry well on into tomorrow.

The flag is still in place:

(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5968284-16x9-940x529.jpg)
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: PulseEffect on December 15, 2014, 03:18:15 pm
Update

Another 2 hostages have been released for a total of 5. Police have ordered media to not publish the demands of the Gunman.

It is currently 1:14AM in Sydney, the siege is expected to carry well on into tomorrow.

The flag is still in place:

(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5968284-16x9-940x529.jpg)

That was a few hours ago.. rofl unknown if it's still there but I haven't seen any recent pictures. IIRC this was about 6 hours when the 5 people escaped/released.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: BarelyVisible on December 15, 2014, 03:25:55 pm
Photo of Female Staff Member as she turns off the lights.

(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/12/15/1227157/308299-6f4d068c-844b-11e4-a702-553dc58650c9.jpg)

Tactical Response Team still in place.

(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/12/15/1227157/292234-077d1e8c-8448-11e4-b7a3-5366c32c384a.jpg)
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Sweeper on December 15, 2014, 03:30:54 pm
And what is truth in your eyes?
Israel attacks Gaza

I'm not going to discuss the conflict between these two states.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: ssaammee on December 15, 2014, 04:03:59 pm
Actually where have you gotten this? The NSW Police haven't released ANY details regarding demands.

For those who want Australian coverage - http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/

According to Netword ten's reported Matt Doran. He claimed he was in contact with two of the hostages just like Ben Fordham on Sydney's 2GB radio station. I can't say if it's trusthworthy or not. The press in Sweden took that source for granted. Even SVT, the government funded media. But recently added that it has not been confirmed by the aus police.

I apologize if my conclusion was too drastic. Let's just hope everybody gets out safe.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: PulseEffect on December 15, 2014, 04:07:06 pm
According to Netword ten's reported Matt Doran. He claimed he was in contact with two of the hostages just like Ben Fordham on Sydney's 2GB radio station. I can't say if it's trusthworthy or not. The press in Sweden took that source for granted. Even SVT, the government funded media. But recently added that it has not been confirmed by the aus police.

I apologize if my conclusion was too drastic. Let's just hope everybody gets out safe.

I don't like channel Ten, Nine or Seven's coverage since they tend to "jump" to conclusions. That's why I prefer ABC, anyhow. 2GB is just a conservative radio station that has no morales. So anyhow, no problems.

Apparently 6th hostage and more (?) got released or escaped.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: PulseEffect on December 15, 2014, 04:16:25 pm
NSW Police Tactical Team just went in, guns blazing. A LOT of gun fire, bomb squad & paramedics is moving in. Will update.

2 Injuries so far (apparently, can not confirmed but 2 people were on stretchers).. there may be more, 4 stretchers were brought in. Unknown if hostage taker has been taken into custody/killed or what not.

Bomb Defusal Robot on standby, I can't see much from the camera angles.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: ssaammee on December 15, 2014, 04:22:13 pm
http://news.sky.com/story/1391978/live-updates-hostage-situation-in-lindt-cafe

Live link. It also shows parts of the breach below.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: TiMoN on December 15, 2014, 05:33:42 pm
but what if terrorist is not Islam?????
maybe dressed up guy trying to start a conflict
has timon gone too far???
rip timon kill by illuminati
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Mr. Goobii on December 15, 2014, 05:37:54 pm
You never hear of any Christian extremists, but always about Islamic. Bullshit propaganda.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: yaz000n on December 15, 2014, 06:14:58 pm
Indeed , Mr.Goobi and Timon
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Stefanos ! on December 15, 2014, 06:20:55 pm
That shoud ends, Its bis news
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 15, 2014, 06:32:48 pm
Two people were reported dead on the scene just recently.


Straya'.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Hess on December 15, 2014, 08:09:48 pm
2 hostages confirmed dead, as well as the gunman.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Archie on December 15, 2014, 08:17:17 pm
We, the Muslims, are not "terrorists" as it looks like. Some people who say they are Muslims such as ISIS, don't obey the rules of Islam (killing is forbidden in Islam)... I condemn them.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 15, 2014, 08:34:26 pm
It's all over now. They're showing the gunfights on the local news and the ambulances caring for any injuries.
Title: Re: Islamic Extremist takes Civilians Hostage in Sydney Australia
Post by: Teddy on December 15, 2014, 09:09:12 pm
Terrorism is the act of attempting to terrorize an area of group of people. It's not specific by definition to race, color, ethnicity, gender, religious beliefs, place of birth.

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