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GTA:SA => SA:MP Unban Requests => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP Closed Unban Requests => Topic started by: Rick. on March 14, 2015, 08:33:28 pm
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Your in-game name:
Rick_Gvardia
Ban reason as was stated in-game:
Flaming in a report through email?
Admin who banned you:
Don't exactly remember his name.
When you were banned:
Yesterday.
Additional notes:
Alright, let's start off with what happened prior to the ban. I was at the Avispa with Soprano and others awaiting the arrival of Corleone and their allies. The argument folded and blood was shed. The fight ended and then we relocated to queens, Gvardia corp to be exact. We had a fight with police, everyone followed server rules, the escapees left and I was one of two of the remaining suspects. Right before I died, I did /hail, thinking I would be seen and not shot to death due to it being an alternative way of /gu'ing. Instead, I was killed and right after spawn, I said "wtf, I hail'ed". That is all I said in main chat. I did not go on and flame the police, blame it on anyone, or start ranting about abuse. EvilEye then began provoking me, encouraging others to do so as well, which did occur. I confronted him about it, and he flat out told me he didn't give a toss about it in main chat.
Devin kept telling me it is due to my behavior but since my unban, I haven't caused any trouble. If I was a nuisance the day of my ban, I would like some evidence as I was hanging out with CBF and driving his tank around under his supervision and he can tell you that during the time with him, I did not cause any trouble. I don't understand why the administrators, not all of you, just a handful, are so quick to ban me. Specially with your own staff member rulebreaking himself. Yes, I did call him a little child in the email I sent about him provoking me, but is that any worse than him provoking me in main chat?
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I don't consider that an actual unban request, just some rant.
If you are here to tell us again that everything is perfect with your attitude, we heard it enough time already.
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I don't consider that an actual unban request, just some rant.
If you are here to tell us again that everything is perfect with your attitude, we heard it enough time already.
Not everyone who makes an unban request has to admit to their ban reason, considering someone might have an actual argument. But looking at my previous unban request, you won't even let me argue my ban. Funny how no mention of admin provoking me, but a mention about my so-called rant. You didn't do my unban any favors last time, all you did was start an argument. Seems as if you're here to do the same. If possible, may you let someone else conduct this ban.
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Funny how no mention of admin provoking me, but a mention about my so-called rant.
Probably because an unban request is not made to judge admins, if you have problem with some of them feel free to fill up a report.
Devin will handle your unban, no worries. But I guess you already know the outcome considering you were already banned for some attitude problem already.
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Probably because an unban request is not made to judge admins, if you have problem with some of them feel free to fill up a report.
I thought I already did that, and how well it turned out. I mean, the punishment he received was so harsh compared to mine, I almost feel sorry for the guy.
Devin will handle your unban, no worries. But I guess you already know the outcome considering you were already banned for some attitude problem already.
Wow, gee, thanks for the confidence bud. Glad you stuck around to help me on this unban request as well.
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I almost feel sorry for the guy.
aww you shouldn't.
I'll just drop a note in here saying you used the RP method of giving up with almost no HP. I was spectating you for a while and you broke no rules, however I'm more than certain you used /hail rather than /gu in order to use it as a defense... simply another method for you to justify your delusional view on the current status. You had almost no HP and it wouldn't have been practical for anyone to have not killed you, especially a sniper who was already engaging you.
Also I standby what I said; I'm an administrator not a babysitter. I'll be the first to stand up against the existing cycle and defunct system. I also love to point out that I never singled you out in that entire conversation, the fact you feel it was entirely aimed at you only shows a guilty conscious.. and rightfully so.
You should also know how most of your group agreed in CB that you were in the wrong. How can you convince HQ you weren't, when your own friends don't?
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aww you shouldn't.
I'll just drop a note in here saying you used the RP method of giving up with almost no HP. I was spectating you for a while and you broke no rules, however I'm more than certain you used /hail rather than /gu in order to use it as a defense... simply another method for you to justify your delusional view on the current status. You had almost no HP and it wouldn't have been practical for anyone to have not killed you, especially a sniper who was already engaging you.
Also I standby what I said; I'm an administrator not a babysitter. I'll be the first to stand up against the existing cycle and defunct system. I also love to point out that I never singled you out in that entire conversation, the fact you feel it was entirely aimed at you only shows a guilty conscious.. and rightfully so.
You should also know how most of your group agreed in CB that you were in the wrong. How can you convince HQ you weren't, when your own friends don't?
So it wasn't directed at me, but I was the ONLY one who died trying to give up. So if it wasn't directed at only me, who was it directed to? I was the only one to speak about the incident at the time, no one said a word before me, so then who else were you referring to? Also, I did try to give up using /hail as I had a lot of valuable weapons on me and it would have been a waste dying. I can give up whenever I feel, there is no rule against when you can give up, but that is not the point. When I approached you about it, you told me you didn't give a shit. That's not a response someone gives when they're speaking to a multitude of people. Yes I was wrong calling you a child, but you're refusing to admit you provoked me? You know better than that.
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Funny how no mention of admin provoking me
[23:49:37] Rusty. has made 9 damage to Rick_Gvardia, weapon: M4
[23:50:02] CMD -> Rick_Gvardia (23) : /hail 1
[23:50:05] Aimzz has made 41 damage to Rick_Gvardia, weapon: Sniper Rifle
[23:50:06] Aimzz has made 41 damage to Rick_Gvardia, weapon: Sniper Rifle
[23:50:14] MSG -> Rick_Gvardia (23) : i did /HAIL
[23:50:31] CMD -> Fuzzy (32) : /p Didn't know /hail was /gu
[23:50:34] MSG -> [NP]Monte.Montague (45) : you know /gu exists
[23:50:36] MSG -> Rick_Gvardia (23) : its the same
[23:51:12] MSG -> [WS]EvilEye (11) : > cries
[23:51:13] MSG -> [WS]EvilEye (11) : GG
[23:51:21] MSG -> Rick_Gvardia (23) : > admin duty
[23:51:24] MSG -> Rick_Gvardia (23) : > dont provoke
[23:51:30] MSG -> [WS]EvilEye (11) : > I don't give a shit
[23:51:35] MSG -> [WS]EvilEye (11) : > I speak the truth when I see it
[23:51:37] MSG -> [WS]EvilEye (11) : > deal with it
If you wanted a shootout with cops, then why try and surrender to protect yourself from death?
And obviously why would you use /hail when you are taking fire instead of /gu which prevents you from dying.
It does not make any sense.
And really, an admin being blunt is provocative to you as they are not sugar coating their words?
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So it wasn't directed at me, but I was the ONLY one who died trying to give up. So if it wasn't directed at only me, who was it directed to?
Correct, you were the only one who died trying to give up. However you weren't the only one complaining. It was directed at everyone complaining, including from the cop side.
Yes I was wrong calling you a child, but you're refusing to admit you provoked me? You know better than that.
Did I?
Also I standby what I said;
If you found it provocative perhaps you should analyze your own actions which led to the incident in the first place. Your little first class "roleplay" with the cops.
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Correct, you were the only one who died trying to give up. However you weren't the only one complaining. It was directed at everyone complaining, including from the cop side.
Did I?
If you found it provocative perhaps you should analyze your own actions which led to the incident in the first place. Your little first class "roleplay" with the cops.
What first class roleplay? We were returning from a shootout, suspected, then you officers appeared. We are not entitled to roleplay with you when you're shooting your guns at us. Me hailing wasn't an attempt at roleplaying, but an attempt in being jailed instead of being killed.
On the point of me not being the only one complaining, I did not see one person complaining about dying, and if the police did complain, it sure as hell wasn't in main chat as I didn't read anything.
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What first class roleplay? We were returning from a shootout, suspected, then you officers appeared. We are not entitled to roleplay with you when you're shooting your guns at us. Me hailing wasn't an attempt at roleplaying, but an attempt in being jailed instead of being killed.
On the point of me not being the only one complaining, I did not see one person complaining about dying, and if the police did complain, it sure as hell wasn't in main chat as I didn't read anything.
You cops? I was not involved in this incident at all, only from an admin spectating.
If you wanted to be jailed you would've typed /gu 3 characters versus /hail # (7). Obviously the shorter option is better considering it also provides you a temporary boost in health to prevent death by impossible circumstances (/hail with nearly no HP).
Yes, multiple people were complaining. In various locations, including /p.
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You could have simply PM'ed me regarding the issue, but you decided I knew what others said In a chat mode I am not in, nor can see what is written in. Not saying you're at fault here, but I'm not entirely the only culprit.
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If we're doing the "could have"...You could have used report if you thought the cops were in the wrong rather than saying something in /p about it.
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If we're doing the "could have"...You could have used report if you thought the cops were in the wrong rather than saying something in /p about it.
Then that would result in another break of rule, spamming /report, as there were about 10 police officers if not more at the scene. You just keep finding other arguments to put a screen over what you did.
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There was a lot less than 10 cops left at your death, like 2 to 3 left in that area. Which would've been acceptable... entirely wrong.. but acceptable.
You just keep finding other arguments to put a screen over what you did.
Hypocritical don't you think?
I never denied saying anything. So this delusional screen you're seeing is beyond me.
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There was a lot less than 10 cops left at your death, like 2 to 3 left in that area. Which would've been acceptable... entirely wrong.. but acceptable.
Are you kidding me? So what you're implying is almost every single cop left because there were only two heavily armed suspects left? As if I've ever seen that. That is beyond me.
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I'm not implying anything, I'm saying they started chasing the suspect that was fleeing. You were not the last to die / get caught.
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Right. I would like to skip all the arguing and get a verdict instead. I admitted I was in the wrong calling you a child. Whether you admit to provoking or not is on you, I don't feel like pushing you to do it anymore as it would drag this unban even further.
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Aye, I have no problem admitting my message could be seen as provocative. In fact, if it was seen as provocative that may be a good thing because the days of constant bullshit, moaning, and crying about every little thing should come to an end. It worked fantastic back in the day and nobody cried "OMG HE PROVOKE ME THAT DAMN CHILD". Grow up. Can't handle a bit of the truth then you don't belong on a game like GTA.
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Aye, I have no problem admitting my message could be seen as provocative. In fact, if it was seen as provocative that may be a good thing because the days of constant bullshit, moaning, and crying about every little thing should come to an end. It worked fantastic back in the day and nobody cried "OMG HE PROVOKE ME THAT DAMN CHILD". Grow up. Can't handle a bit of the truth then you don't belong on a game like GTA.
That is all good and well, but unfortunately one sided. Turn it around and see it as a regular player doing it, it would be considered provocative right away.
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That is all good and well, but unfortunately one sided. Turn it around and see it as a regular player doing it, it would be considered provocative right away.
Too some admins yes, if I see a player straightening out another, all the power to them. In fact coming from another player... it might even be more effective since it's coming from a peer and not a person of authority. I cannot speak on behalf of all admins tho ofc.
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Too some admins yes, if I see a player straightening out another, all the power to them. In fact coming from another player... it might even be more effective since it's coming from a peer and not a person of authority. I cannot speak on behalf of all admins tho ofc.
Sure.
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Devin will be inactive for a few time so you will have to wait for his return so he can continue with this request.
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Devin will be inactive for a few time so you will have to wait for his return so he can continue with this request.
No problem at all
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Nothing more to say on this instance - Unbanned.