Stricter Police Department
To be a cop, you have to apply. To get the rights, you have to be valid as one. If being one, you cannot have a criminal record (let’s say no /su for at least two weeks?) and you cannot belong to any criminal organization, such as Gvardia or whatever group. If getting caught being together with criminal groups of duty, you could get suspended. All that should be brought in-game, and not over forum for example. Again – promote the role play.
100% With this idea. Glad to hear it's being welcomed.
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The new era of Argonath starts here!
Looks positive around the board, good to see. :app:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQcFirst there's no "some" newcommers, there's all of the newcommers. Who said your gonna wait months? Applications system will be set by the leaders in order to be quick and in waves, and your god damn right you need to pass trainings in-order to become a cop! Because those who REALLY want to become cops and roleplay e'm, their gonna apply and pass all of e'm trainings without no problem.
What the hell is even this about? you have to sign up on a forum and attend to trainings just to ROLEPLAY a damn cop? are you kidding me? just because some newcomers abuse it you decided to take it away from all of us? what happened to argonath vision and all that? what happened to being able to roleplay without having to register on another forum, apply, wait months then train just to be able to roleplay a cop on a goddamn videogame? you gotta be joking, come on people... there gotta be another way out of this problem, i know lots of "freecops" who stay on argo just to roleplay a cop without having to apply like in the rest of the "rp" servers.
With the launch of RS5 "freecops" were officially no more and were integrated into SAPD with the rank of officers, what are you doing now? taking steps backwards?.
In my opinion a person with common sense and capable of speaking english should be able to roleplay what he wants straight off the bat (this is what Argonath is all about!) without having to apply on a goddamn forum.
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What the hell is even this about? you have to sign up on a forum and attend to trainings just to ROLEPLAY a damn cop? are you kidding me? just because some newcomers abuse it you decided to take it away from all of us? what happened to argonath vision and all that? what happened to being able to roleplay without having to register on another forum, apply, wait months then train just to be able to roleplay a cop on a goddamn videogame? you gotta be joking, come on people... there gotta be another way out of this problem, i know lots of "freecops" who stay on argo just to roleplay a cop without having to apply like in the rest of the "rp" servers.
With the launch of RS5 "freecops" were officially no more and were integrated into SAPD with the rank of officers, what are you doing now? taking steps backwards?.
In my opinion a person with common sense and capable of speaking english should be able to roleplay what he wants straight off the bat (this is what Argonath is all about!) without having to apply on a goddamn forum.
To start with, no we are not kidding you. And no this is not just because of people abusing the way the current system is.
We are making this change to suit the majority of the players, to change the way things have been for many years and actually take the majority of players opinions into consideration.
You won't have to wait months to be able to go on duty either if those running SAPD have their systems and members in order. As a matter of fact, if SAPD is running efficiently the way this functions will be more effective and useful than the current way the systems work that basically nullify the need for SAPD to even be there.
By doing this it will not only provide SAPD with a real job, but it will add incentive to join the group and use it as a career instead of a part-time mess around job on the server to shoot orange dots.
You may see it as stepping backwards, I personally see it as stepping forward. But everyone has their own opinion.
What the hell is even this about? you have to sign up on a forum and attend to trainings just to ROLEPLAY a damn cop? are you kidding me? just because some newcomers abuse it you decided to take it away from all of us? what happened to argonath vision and all that? what happened to being able to roleplay without having to register on another forum, apply, wait months then train just to be able to roleplay a cop on a goddamn videogame? you gotta be joking, come on people... there gotta be another way out of this problem, i know lots of "freecops" who stay on argo just to roleplay a cop without having to apply like in the rest of the "rp" servers.Hey Miller. I'm not surprised of your reaction. Some will react this way and it's completely human. Will you please tell me what this current system has contributed positively to the community for the last eight years? Would you also please explain to me how hard it is to apply on the forum and why it would be bad to straighten up the police department and involve more roleplay?
With the launch of RS5 "freecops" were officially no more and were integrated into SAPD with the rank of officers, what are you doing now? taking steps backwards?.
In my opinion a person with common sense and capable of speaking english should be able to roleplay what he wants straight off the bat (this is what Argonath is all about!) without having to apply on a goddamn forum.
To start with, no we are not kidding you. And no this is not just because of people abusing the way the current system is.Oh, Devin, dear, Devin. My pants.
We are making this change to suit the majority of the players, to change the way things have been for many years and actually take the majority of players opinions into consideration.
You won't have to wait months to be able to go on duty either if those running SAPD have their systems and members in order. As a matter of fact, if SAPD is running efficiently the way this functions will be more effective and useful than the current way the systems work that basically nullify the need for SAPD to even be there.
By doing this it will not only provide SAPD with a real job, but it will add incentive to join the group and use it as a career instead of a part-time mess around job on the server to shoot orange dots.
You may see it as stepping backwards, I personally see it as stepping forward. But everyone has their own opinion.
What the hell is even this about? you have to sign up on a forum and attend to trainings just to ROLEPLAY a damn cop? are you kidding me? just because some newcomers abuse it you decided to take it away from all of us? what happened to argonath vision and all that? what happened to being able to roleplay without having to register on another forum, apply, wait months then train just to be able to roleplay a cop on a goddamn videogame? you gotta be joking, come on people... there gotta be another way out of this problem, i know lots of "freecops" who stay on argo just to roleplay a cop without having to apply like in the rest of the "rp" servers.
With the launch of RS5 "freecops" were officially no more and were integrated into SAPD with the rank of officers, what are you doing now? taking steps backwards?.
In my opinion a person with common sense and capable of speaking english should be able to roleplay what he wants straight off the bat (this is what Argonath is all about!) without having to apply on a goddamn forum.
Good - finally looks like we're heading into a right direction.
what happened to argonath vision and all that?(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48339001/thatsright.gif)
What is needed, is clearer guidelines so that citizens can clearly know what is happening. Also, some independent oversight is needed instead of a private internal affairs department. The same counts for prosecution. Instead of the current setup where both SAPD and FBI have their own prosecutors, an independent prosecution office should be established under direction of the APRD Commissioner / Ministry of Justice (Yes, i'm implying a department, not a single person).
With the additional oversight in place, this idea can be quite succesful, in my opinion.
While this is a good idea, this does require some work on behalf of the ARPD Commisioner/Minister of Justice.A professional standards department then? One with oversight of ensuring that ARPD and FBI officers have the highest standards of integrity and professionalism?
What is needed, is clearer guidelines so that citizens can clearly know what is happening. Also, some independent oversight is needed instead of a private internal affairs department. The same counts for prosecution. Instead of the current setup where both SAPD and FBI have their own prosecutors, an independent prosecution office should be established under direction of the APRD Commissioner / Ministry of Justice (Yes, i'm implying a department, not a single person).
With the additional oversight in place, this idea can be quite succesful, in my opinion.
PS. With more focus on screening/investigation, i'd still like to point out that the CIA is willing to play a part in this process and provide other support to existing government agencies.
Would love to see the same thing happen with SAFD. I'm already in the process of rebuilding the department as a whole and it would be a welcome change alongside this.
I noticed theres a lot more interaction between developers and community members which shows that ideas are being listened to, in return the community appreciates the efforts made.. This wasn't the case a few months ago. Good improvements.This is the way it should of always been.
While this is a good idea, this does require some work on behalf of the ARPD Commisioner/Minister of Justice.
What is needed, is clearer guidelines so that citizens can clearly know what is happening. Also, some independent oversight is needed instead of a private internal affairs department. The same counts for prosecution. Instead of the current setup where both SAPD and FBI have their own prosecutors, an independent prosecution office should be established under direction of the APRD Commissioner / Ministry of Justice (Yes, i'm implying a department, not a single person).
YES! FINALLY!!
I congratulate the management to coming to their senses at last.
I dont think SAFD should be application only, as we should leave broader opportunities for new players to earn money and get familiar with the community and the way it goes here, as Argonath is different than your typical server. However, SAFD should indeed get the control over the firemen and medics that SAPD has, such as ability to remove players from the job and so on.Yes, those rights to ban players from going on Fire / Medic duty was something we thought we were going to have going into RS5, I'm not sure what happened along the way.
I'd like to see this happening, however under heavy restrictions, I don't want to see un-trusted people getting access to SAPD (some)/FBI procedures which are classified.Such oversight would function under the same legal classification which is already used by the SAPD and FBI, and as such nothing can be publicly revealed. On the contrary, such oversight should be able to take action in case regulations or the constitution is broken.
Probably one of the few people who have mixed views on this idea.Yea it's really interesting actually, you can see what kind of people the server has now that this isn't being immediately shot down, let alone the fact that people are actually supporting it.
Yea it's really interesting actually, you can see what kind of people the server has now that this isn't being immediately shot down, let alone the fact that people are actually supporting it.