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SAPD - Application Only Reform.

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Reply #45 on: June 19, 2015, 09:26:50 am
While this is a good idea, this does require some work on behalf of the ARPD Commisioner/Minister of Justice.

What is needed, is clearer guidelines so that citizens can clearly know what is happening. Also, some independent oversight is needed instead of a private internal affairs department. The same counts for prosecution. Instead of the current setup where both SAPD and FBI have their own prosecutors, an independent prosecution office should be established under direction of the APRD Commissioner / Ministry of Justice (Yes, i'm implying a department, not a single person).

With the additional oversight in place, this idea can be quite succesful, in my opinion.

PS. With more focus on screening/investigation, i'd still like to point out that the CIA is willing to play a part in this process and provide other support to existing government agencies.




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Reply #46 on: June 19, 2015, 10:28:52 am
what happened to argonath vision and all that?


Don't use the Argonath Vision as an excuse. It takes one minute to register, and the process is speedy.


What is needed, is clearer guidelines so that citizens can clearly know what is happening. Also, some independent oversight is needed instead of a private internal affairs department. The same counts for prosecution. Instead of the current setup where both SAPD and FBI have their own prosecutors, an independent prosecution office should be established under direction of the APRD Commissioner / Ministry of Justice (Yes, i'm implying a department, not a single person).

With the additional oversight in place, this idea can be quite succesful, in my opinion.

This, times 1000.
Clear, simple guidelines (keep in mind the majority of the players speak English as a second language) as well as one simple oversight is needed. No ten divisions doing the same thing for all the acronyms we come up with.

The idea is good and I would like to see the community to this direction as a whole.



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Reply #47 on: June 19, 2015, 10:30:45 am
While this is a good idea, this does require some work on behalf of the ARPD Commisioner/Minister of Justice.

What is needed, is clearer guidelines so that citizens can clearly know what is happening. Also, some independent oversight is needed instead of a private internal affairs department. The same counts for prosecution. Instead of the current setup where both SAPD and FBI have their own prosecutors, an independent prosecution office should be established under direction of the APRD Commissioner / Ministry of Justice (Yes, i'm implying a department, not a single person).

With the additional oversight in place, this idea can be quite succesful, in my opinion.

PS. With more focus on screening/investigation, i'd still like to point out that the CIA is willing to play a part in this process and provide other support to existing government agencies.
A professional standards department then? One with oversight of ensuring that ARPD and FBI officers have the highest standards of integrity and professionalism?

I think the application only system is a good start. At the moment it does seem as if people only chase orange blips on maps, those that do want to RP find that a lot of the criminals assume you're going to blat them away so decide to just shoot you, without giving you a chance to roleplay anything. Bring it on!



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Reply #48 on: June 19, 2015, 10:52:07 am
This is a pleasant surprise and a step in the right direction. As a longtime player, I can say we have clearly passed a milestone here. I have not seen this level of active listening and cooperation with the players on the same level up until now. It is very refreshing to see the decision-making is tailored to the players' needs, something that's been practically taboo in the past. Respect.



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Reply #49 on: June 19, 2015, 10:59:07 am
YES! FINALLY!!

I congratulate the management to coming to their senses at last.

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Reply #50 on: June 19, 2015, 11:10:00 am
Would love to see the same thing happen with SAFD. I'm already in the process of rebuilding the department as a whole and it would be a welcome change alongside this.



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Reply #51 on: June 19, 2015, 11:43:42 am

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Reply #52 on: June 19, 2015, 12:04:01 pm
Glad to see that you guys are finally stepping up, and using your ranks.  :app:
This should be very interesting, and even though it may have some failure at the start, I'm sure of a bright future.


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Reply #53 on: June 19, 2015, 12:14:32 pm
Glad it has been discussed! This would mean working more and harder but we will be able to get everything organized on the end, I'm sure am looking forward to this!



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Reply #54 on: June 19, 2015, 02:43:14 pm
Would love to see the same thing happen with SAFD. I'm already in the process of rebuilding the department as a whole and it would be a welcome change alongside this.

I dont think SAFD should be application only, as we should leave broader opportunities for new players to earn money and get familiar with the community and the way it goes here, as Argonath is different than your typical server. However, SAFD should indeed get the control over the firemen and medics that SAPD has, such as ability to remove players from the job and so on.

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Reply #55 on: June 19, 2015, 02:46:04 pm
I noticed theres a lot more interaction between developers and community members which shows that ideas are being listened to, in return the community appreciates the efforts made.. This wasn't the case a few months ago. Good improvements.
This is the way it should of always been.



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Reply #56 on: June 19, 2015, 05:19:34 pm
While this is a good idea, this does require some work on behalf of the ARPD Commisioner/Minister of Justice.

What is needed, is clearer guidelines so that citizens can clearly know what is happening. Also, some independent oversight is needed instead of a private internal affairs department. The same counts for prosecution. Instead of the current setup where both SAPD and FBI have their own prosecutors, an independent prosecution office should be established under direction of the APRD Commissioner / Ministry of Justice (Yes, i'm implying a department, not a single person).

I'd like to see this happening, however under heavy restrictions, I don't want to see un-trusted people getting access to SAPD (some)/FBI procedures which are classified.



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Reply #57 on: June 19, 2015, 05:26:07 pm
YES! FINALLY!!

I congratulate the management to coming to their senses at last.



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Reply #58 on: June 19, 2015, 05:37:40 pm
Probably one of the few people who have mixed views on this idea.

While I would love the idea of a stricter SAPD, I dislike the fact that I (and many others who play by the rules) can't choose to just become a cop for some time enjoy being a cop.



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Reply #59 on: June 19, 2015, 06:53:58 pm
I dont think SAFD should be application only, as we should leave broader opportunities for new players to earn money and get familiar with the community and the way it goes here, as Argonath is different than your typical server. However, SAFD should indeed get the control over the firemen and medics that SAPD has, such as ability to remove players from the job and so on.
Yes, those rights to ban players from going on Fire / Medic duty was something we thought we were going to have going into RS5, I'm not sure what happened along the way.



 


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