Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Jay42 on July 18, 2015, 03:42:56 am
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Well, as the tittle says, bring back combat. I don't use it also i don't even like that weapon, but I think that many people who likes to use combat will just /q because of it and we need activity. Removing combat won't stop DM. Just bring it back, not for me, but for many users of it.
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Combat just allows people to Kill you instantly.. its not a realistic gun at all, just use normal or sawn off shotgun. but if Combat shotgun was to ever return i would say Decrease it's damage per bullet if possible.. Combat is the main reason newbs Shoot to kill when your typing, but now there is only deagle so they can only get like 1-2 bullets out.. with combat you would be dead before you can press esc to cancel yyour typing.. i witness'd this stupid move about 100 thousand times.. if people want to quit because of a weapon they can go live on a DM server.
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The part of players leaving because of combat makes no sense,although I support the idea itself banning Combat will never stop the DM,there are still other powerful guns if used right. My own opinion that banning Combat is pointless, if you want to stop DM you guys will find other ways indeed.
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Combat just allows people to Kill you instantly.. its not a realistic gun at all, just
If you are talking about a gun being realistic, I suppose it isn't realistic when you need 7 shots to kill a player.
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If you are talking about a gun being realistic, I suppose it isn't realistic when you need 7 shots to kill a player.
Bullet proof vests (Armour) with deagle it takes 5 bullets which is rather realistic, people can roleplay being hurt after 2-3 bullets if they rp it, but combat is just silly, plus with deagle a fight will last longer than 10 seconds,
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Combat is a vagina cannon :| not everyone likes it and i think it should not come back because is it cool to come be a shootout where everyone is using combat because its the most powerful shotgun......... i mean its annoying
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I never understood why the combat got removed in the first place but apperently it seems it's because people got butthurt over getting raped by it.
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I never understood why the combat got removed in the first place but apperently it seems it's because people got butthurt over getting raped by it.
Normal shotgun wins Every times :)
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Removing combat for DM fests is not even a reason they could've stopped DM in other different ways than banning it
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At one point I didn't understand why it got removed, but I like the weapon diversification now (people actually using lower grade guns) and the fact that rich people don't have as much advantage as before (although yes I supposse that doesn't make sense). Also it's fun seeing people struggling to kill anyone without it :P So I'm for no.
@*realism* guys
damage is non-debatable because all depends on bleeding rate and organ hits.....watch some combat videos from afganistan or something, I've seen a talib fighter getting hit up close 5 times with M4A1, shattering his testicles as well apparently, yet he was able to return fire and attack with melee afterwards.... I recommend liveleak
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damage is non-debatable because all depends on bleeding rate and organ hits.....watch some combat videos from afganistan or something, I've seen a talib fighter getting hit up close 5 times with M4A1, shattering his testicles as well apparently, yet he was able to return fire and attack with melee afterwards.... I recommend liveleak
me stomach will never recover from 2 graphikal images, where was the esrb rating?
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Hahaha
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me stomach will never recover from 2 graphikal images, where was the esrb rating?
rated R for retarded :bananav:
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There is no problem with combat not being available.
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Combat just allows people to Kill you instantly.. its not a realistic gun at all, just use normal or sawn off shotgun. but if Combat shotgun was to ever return i would say Decrease it's damage per bullet if possible.. Combat is the main reason newbs Shoot to kill when your typing, but now there is only deagle so they can only get like 1-2 bullets out.. with combat you would be dead before you can press esc to cancel yyour typing.. i witness'd this stupid move about 100 thousand times.. if people want to quit because of a weapon they can go live on a DM server.
It's the weapon itself, I mean I'm a sawn-off user, if argonath banned sawn-off i'd lose interest of playing it, i'd play without get into shootouts. It makes no sense if you're a good shooter, you will not be killed ONLY because of whoever is against you uses a combat. DM won't decrease only because there is no combat understand that. Maybe do it like a 5 round ammo instead of 7 but don't remove it.. If they quit argonath will be death in a couple of months. Do you want it? I don't. Also you s hould be careful while typing or trying to rp with a ''newb''. It happened to me when I was talking with Salvo Sullivan once, he just shooted @ me while I was typing and guess what, i killed him, he took all of my armour out, but i did it. It's not about the weapon. DM won't stop only because of combat getting banned. Also if you are talking about a weapon being realistic check this out: there are no headshots, no-one in real life runs while shooting to his right like I do while shooting with a sawn-off or uzi.
If you want to avoid shootouts, play sims instead of samp.
The part of players leaving because of combat makes no sense...
It does, it's like if you work in something that you're used to and in a minute someone just tell you to do something that you've never did in your life.
with deagle a fight will last longer than 10 seconds,
I don't understand, you're talking about a weapon being realistic and you want a 1v1 that will last + than 10 secs? IRL if you get shooted in your head you're DEATH. So that's not a valid argment.
Combat is a vagina cannon :| not everyone likes it and i think it should not come back because is it cool to come be a shootout where everyone is using combat because its the most powerful shotgun......... i mean its annoying
Dude, it's a weapon like any other. If you got no skills you'll not win, even if you're using a combat against a 9mm.
but I like the weapon diversification now (people actually using lower grade guns) and the fact that rich people don't have as much advantage as before
It's not about weapon diversification, if someone likes to use another weapon than combat then USE IT even if his target is using a combat.
I don't even use it/like it, but it will just make players /q from argonath.
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it will just make players /q from argonath.
No. If it makes them quit then they are certainly looking for a DeathMatching platform and are not here to roleplay.
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No. If it makes them quit then they are certainly looking for a DeathMatching platform and are not here to roleplay.
What's the difference between combat and a 9mm ? DM is DM. killing faster is a differnt thing.
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looking for a DeathMatching platform and are not here to roleplay.
Only because they like to use a combat does that mean that they don't want to RP and only DM?
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No. If it makes them quit then they are certainly looking for a DeathMatching platform and are not here to roleplay.
Indeed,
The combat is a DM weapon it belongs in a DM server.
I'm happy they removed the combat, it makes shootouts... blehhhh
*Bunnyhop to the player in cover and kill him with a combat* is not RP at all.
The combat is too overpowered to be in a RP server.
I'd support the idea if they decrease the damage of it but then again.. you have a regular shotgun.
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Indeed,
The combat is a DM weapon it belongs in a DM server.
I'm happy they removed the combat, it makes shootouts... blehhhh
*Bunnyhop to the player in cover and kill him with a combat* is not RP at all.
The combat is too overpowered to be in a RP server.
I'd support the idea if they decrease the damage of it but then again.. you have a regular shotgun.
a player *bunnyhop* with EVERY weapon they use in a shootout, wtf guys use your brain. What's the difference between a DM weapon and a RP weapon? You can DM with a combat and with a bat. There is no realistic shootout @ samp.
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Indeed,
The combat is a DM weapon it belongs in a DM server.
I'm happy they removed the combat, it makes shootouts... blehhhh
*Bunnyhop to the player in cover and kill him with a combat* is not RP at all.
The combat is too overpowered to be in a RP server.
I'd support the idea if they decrease the damage of it but then again.. you have a regular shotgun.
DM Weapon? tafuq? i dont think there is such thing is a DM or an RP weapon at all, its just they're buyable weapons . I disagree with combat shotgun is because its too OP
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a player *bunnyhop* with EVERY weapon they use in a shootout, wtf guys use your brain. What's the difference between a DM weapon and a RP weapon? You can DM with a combat and with a bat. There is no realistic shootout @ samp.
In your example:
"What's the difference between combat and a 9mm ? DM is DM. killing faster is a differnt thing."
What would a DMer choose? 9mm or combat.
A DMer wants to kill people, fast and a lot.
He'd never choose a 9mm but he always wants the overpowered weapons.
Why? Cuz you don't need skills for it.
I agree with you, there isn't such thing as a 'DM weapon' in theory.
I just can't find a good reason to bring that weapon back..
Maybe if I was a Dmer; yes, it kills a lot of people easy and fast and you can penetrate through a lot of objects.
I just think it's better without the combat.
Can you promise me, that with the combat back, we'll have more players that actually stay and RP?
I prefer those people over new guys just buying guns and DMing twice till their money is gone.
Do you think a potential good player cares if there is a combat or not? I don't think so.
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In your example:
"What's the difference between combat and a 9mm ? DM is DM. killing faster is a differnt thing."
What would a DMer choose? 9mm or combat.
A DMer wants to kill people, fast and a lot.
He'd never choose a 9mm but he always wants the overpowered weapons.
Why? Cuz you don't need skills for it.
I agree with you, there isn't such thing as a 'DM weapon' in theory.
I just can't find a good reason to bring that weapon back..
Maybe if I was a Dmer; yes, it kills a lot of people easy and fast and you can penetrate through a lot of objects.
I just think it's better without the combat.
Can you promise me, that with the combat back, we'll have more players that actually stay and RP?
I prefer those people over new guys just buying guns and DMing twice till their money is gone.
Do you think a potential good player cares if there is a combat or not? I don't think so.
*coughs* people who used to use combat would kill you in the middle of you typing and rping *coughs*
thing is, even me hate the combat but keep using :/ until its gone. But why would you think a dmer would choose the combat, some dmers prefer other weapons than the combat, even though i used to use it i now call it the 'Vagina Cannon' :/
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i haven't really seen anyone moaning about Combat being gone.. and no people have not left the server because of it, if you haven't noticed School break has just finished and people are back at school that is why most people aren't online, combat hasnt affected the player count at all as far as i have seen. So i do not see why this Topic was made..
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I actually enjoy not seeing a combat in any kind of shootouts. The shootout now needs more skill and it gets closer to realism, because people take cover and all, instead of just running towards someone and raping him with a combat.
The sawn off has to be removed too, just because of that annoying unrealistic running around people and shooting them.
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Combat is an overpowered unrealistic weapon. I'm glad to see to see it removed. This also gives fair chances to all during combats, not just the combat users during the combats are eligible to 'win' due to the unfair advantage.
About the Shawn off, I agree it should be removed as its overpowered plus the fact that players run whilst using it which makes it quite hard to shoot them.
Also, it doesnt make sense that a player leaves the game for a weapon which got removed. If that's real then they better stay out :)
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Combat just allows people to Kill you instantly.. its not a realistic gun at all, just use normal or sawn off shotgun. but if Combat shotgun was to ever return i would say Decrease it's damage per bullet if possible.. Combat is the main reason newbs Shoot to kill when your typing, but now there is only deagle so they can only get like 1-2 bullets out.. with combat you would be dead before you can press esc to cancel yyour typing.. i witness'd this stupid move about 100 thousand times.. if people want to quit because of a weapon they can go live on a DM server.
Not a realistic weapon ? i'd say pistol's damage should be increased drastically lol in real life you can almost put down a man with 1 shot.
Its just that with 7 shots it can bring down a player with full armour and hp...pretty annoying for those who are in middle of chats, though rather than removing combat why don't you simply increase its cost by a huge margin ?
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No.
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no. doesnt need an explanation why
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I think that many people who likes to use combat will just /q because of it and we need activity.
If they quit for this reason then they are not on our server for the good purpose.
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About bringing combat back, it's still necessary as many of the players ignored that weapon and started to continue their job (DMing) with another weapons, removing combat didn't solve and will not solve any problem till yet, The DeathMatching have nothing to do with an particular weapon, it's the actions of the Roleplayer, If I were one of the community heads I would ban all weapons, So people can rp properly and have a good time RPING! not DMING.
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Combat sucks, sawn offs also. Now we have players running and shooting, if combat returns, we will have players running and shooting and players instantly killing you. No to both weapons.
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Combat sucks, sawn offs also. Now we have players running and shooting, if combat returns, we will have players running and shooting and players instantly killing you. No to both weapons.
Besides, they are/were extremely cheap. If it was to come back I would say 7k+ or so for those weapons
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Besides, they are/were extremely cheap. If it was to come back I would say 7k+ or so for those weapons
Hey do you have combat?
Yes
Give me 1 bullet
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Hey do you have combat?
Yes
Give me 1 bullet
I'm sure solutions exist to solve that one bullet that override the price of the weapon..
Raising prices won't solve anything, it will only give advantages to rich people.
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ban all weapons, So people can rp properly and have a good time RPING! not DMING.
Had the same thought about the weapons... But they will never be removed
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Well, as the tittle says, bring back combat. I don't use it also i don't even like that weapon, but I think that many people who likes to use combat will just /q because of it and we need activity. Removing combat won't stop DM. Just bring it back, not for me, but for many users of it.
Mate, nobody's /q because of that kind of update! If he quit then he is not important here.
NO COMBAT HERE>
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Well, as the tittle says, bring back combat. I don't use it also i don't even like that weapon, but I think that many people who likes to use combat will just /q because of it and we need activity. Removing combat won't stop DM. Just bring it back, not for me, but for many users of it.
Replace combat with minigun. :lol:
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You disabled combat? Good, now remove bunny hopping and make Argonath a strict RP server, and fuck up already fucked up server. :lol:
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You disabled combat? Good, now remove bunny hopping ad make Argonath a strict RP server, and fuck up already fucked up server. :lol:
Who ever said argonath was fu**ed up ? its the people that are.
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Who ever said argonath was fu**ed up ? its the people that are.
It's people who fuck it up more and more, with every new update :lol:
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It's people who fuck it up, with every new update :lol:
Moans because no update
Moans because update
Anything constructive to say?
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You disabled combat? Good, now remove bunny hopping and make Argonath a strict RP server, and fuck up already fucked up server. :lol:
Someone is fucked up and it's not the server.
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Replace combat with minigun. :lol:
Supported!
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who cares about combat when i have 9mm....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtPjQr77OTA
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You removed combat and I didn't notice you could also remove other guns too I won't mind it....
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I think it's better to remove veteran DM'ers from the game completely, no chance of unban.
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I think it's better to remove veteran DM'ers from the game completely, no chance of unban.
Yes! Lets remove all past DM'ers who were banned once and completely block their path to argo. Extremely wise and fascinating idea!!!
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Yes! Lets remove all past DM'ers who were banned once and completely block their path to argo. Extremely wise and fascinating idea!!!
I never said all in the past, nor new players. But rather remove those who are unwilling to follow the rules and play by some basic concepts... There is veterans players that
should know by this time that DM / trolling / etc isn't allowed and that it just spreads like cancer to the whole community. Why would we even let them back after they already have been banned multiply times?
It worked for VC:MP, they always had the concept that you only get unbanned twice, after the second one; you are permanent banned from the server.
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I don't even use it/like it, but it will just make players /q from argonath.
:rofl:
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No.
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We are already making the unban request much longer than was it was before.
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On a serious note, definitely no. There is no point of bringing back combat and as you can see many people are against it. So I don't really understand how people can /q for such a f**cking retarded reason. The average of players online is increasing progressively, hence you're talking no-sense.
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Why would you mind removing of some random weapon lol (?) If they want they can remove even sultans or any other thing i still wont mind it and i still will come ig to hang with friends (even driving without guns on a BMXs.).
By the removal of the combat there was no RP added, it just made the shotouts to last longer and gave the addvantage to the good Deagle shooters that's all.
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if players /q because there is no combat they do not belong on the server
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No surprise that it is the mafia comrades who misses the gun.
Learn how to shoot properly and a combat shotgun ain't much missed. If people want to leave because of a gun which is only used by deathmatch squads, then the door is held wide open.
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If they /Q because they can't use a combat they'd probably get banned sooner or after.
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No surprise that it is the mafia comrades who misses the gun.
Learn how to shoot properly and a combat shotgun ain't much missed. If people want to leave because of a gun which is only used by deathmatch squads, then the door is held wide open.
DM squads will find the next powerful weapon and it will start all over... just remember that on the first topic to remove another weapon.
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To reply to the first post - we dont just need activity, we need people who will roleplay. If one wont play the server cos combat is removed, then in my eyes he shouldnt be welcome on the server anyway
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I think it's about time weapons are given legal/illegal status, add combat back in, sell it for 20k a pop. People will think twice about going into shootouts with a high-tier high-price gun.
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I think it's about time weapons are given legal/illegal status, add combat back in, sell it for 20k a pop. People will think twice about going into shootouts with a high-tier high-price gun.
Which will make players with a lot of money invincible.
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Which will make players with a lot of money invincible.
Or poor.
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DM squads will find the next powerful weapon and it will start all over... just remember that on the first topic to remove another weapon.
I get you. But without combat, there ain't no gun which is capable of killing another in the matter of two seconds. Deagle might be powerful, but at the same time it's quite slow in between the bullets so it's not that easy to kill one standing still unless the opposite player are writing. The combat has always been "over-powered" and the problem is that it isn't a fair shootout if you use another gun as the other player. Since the only ones using combats pretty much are mafia members, which attend to get themselves in to these cops vs. criminal-scenarios, I rather consider an disallowance of the gun to see the outcome of the changes. If it doesn't change much, I am more likely going to change my standpoint.
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I get you. But without combat, there ain't no gun which is capable of killing another in the matter of two seconds. Deagle might be powerful, but at the same time it's quite slow in between the bullets so it's not that easy to kill one standing still unless the opposite player are writing. The combat has always been "over-powered" and the problem is that it isn't a fair shootout if you use another gun as the other player. Since the only ones using combats pretty much are mafia members, which attend to get themselves in to these cops vs. criminal-scenarios, I rather consider an disallowance of the gun to see the outcome of the changes. If it doesn't change much, I am more likely going to change my standpoint.
M4 can get you killed in less than 5 seconds. Sawn can get you killed in 10 seconds. Combat gets you killed in 7 seconds. (all these are incase of fighting back not just being shot without shooting back). Incase if you got shot while you were still typing in the chat in the role-play scene just never role-play with that guy. If you removed SPAS you should also remove SMG, TEC, Sawnoff, UZI, Deagle and even M4.
DM squads will find the next powerful weapon and it will start all over... just remember that on the first topic to remove another weapon.
M4, just get 2 guys shooting at one with M4 and he will be dead in less than one second.
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M4 can get you killed in less than 5 seconds. Sawn can get you killed in 10 seconds. Combat gets you killed in 7 seconds. (all these are incase of fighting back not just being shot without shooting back). Incase if you got shot while you were still typing in the chat in the role-play scene just never role-play with that guy. If you removed SPAS you should also remove SMG, TEC, Sawnoff, UZI, Deagle and even M4.M4, just get 2 guys shooting at one with M4 and he will be dead in less than one second.
Wanna jump on stunt and see if you beat me using any of the weapons you just mentioned while i'm using combat?
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Wanna jump on stunt and see if you beat me using any of the weapons you just mentioned while i'm using combat?
Come to paruni, right now since I have some time.
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Nobody left because Combat was removed, nor will DM be increased if it comes back.
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No need for combat.
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It hurts my eyes to see a topic of such kind in RP server.
Bring back the weapon with most DMG and lets kill everyone, this weapon simply has almost no RP purpose at all and it is not necessary.
If you want this to come back reduce the DMG from the weapon to alot lower value, like a quarter from what it has originally.
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Selling combat 500$ per bullet
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Combat shotgun doesn't suit a roleplay server, it's not needed and is as many say a bitches gun. It can work on a DM server, sure but where you are supposed to be roleplaying not blasting one another to shit and gone daily (which some still are obsessed with doing) it does not fit in.
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Combat shotgun doesn't suit a roleplay server, it's not needed and is as many say a bad girles gun. It can work on a DM server, sure but where you are supposed to be roleplaying not blasting one another to shit and gone daily (which some still are obsessed with doing) it does not fit in.
That's part of criminal roleplay as much as anything else, and the drama about it should really stop by now.
I'm against bringing back combat, at least for now. It does make shootouts more interesting and more real, which I like alot.
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theres no purpose of combat shotgun in roleplays, only in taking your enemy down as fast as you can. it should never be allowed back on argonath (unless i rejoin Luciano)
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I still don't understand why people miss it even if it's their preference, because MP5 can kill even faster while being 3x cheaper?.... :cowboy:
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I get you. But without combat, there ain't no gun which is capable of killing another in the matter of two seconds. Deagle might be powerful, but at the same time it's quite slow in between the bullets so it's not that easy to kill one standing still unless the opposite player are writing. The combat has always been "over-powered" and the problem is that it isn't a fair shootout if you use another gun as the other player. Since the only ones using combats pretty much are mafia members, which attend to get themselves in to these cops vs. criminal-scenarios, I rather consider an disallowance of the gun to see the outcome of the changes. If it doesn't change much, I am more likely going to change my standpoint.
It is a showing of the HQ to listen to what people have been asking for a long time, so I think it is a good idea to see how it plays out.
IMHO there will be always a complaint about the most powerful weapon, on the other hand we removed the minigun and RPG from the beginning as they would be too prone to abuse on a RP server. If there is a consensus that combat falls in the same category we should try to remove it, just we believe that fighting is a part of the GTA roleplay and skilled fighters are an asset to any server.
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I still don't understand why people miss it even if it's their preference, because MP5 can kill even faster while being 3x cheaper?.... :cowboy:
It's the cheap shots from combats that makes people dont roleplay shootouts properly, everyone knows that if you are not ready a combat takes down your armor and hp with 7 shots.
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No, thank you.
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No weapon kills a still standing suspect as fast as combat does it. Even carkilling isnt as fast
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As we took the steps of removing combat shotgun, next move could be changing the weapon DMG-s to a more realistic level, reduce some, increase some ;)
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remove deagle, 9mm <3
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I think it's better to remove veteran DM'ers from the game completely, no chance of unban.
I agree. We need to fix our flawed unban system which persistently welcomes back people who commit the same rulebreaks repeatedly. There is no thought "oh I might get banned, I shouldn't do this" before rulebreaking... the thought is "oh if I get banned, I'll be unbanned in a few weeks". If we could change that mindset then perhaps we could have a lot more to work with.
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As we took the steps of removing combat shotgun, next move could be changing the weapon DMG-s to a more realistic level, reduce some, increase some ;)
reducing the dmg won't make it more realistic it would be the opposite if you think about it.
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reducing the dmg won't make it more realistic it would be the opposite if you think about it.
More than 2 shots is non-realistic, but I think the DMG should actually be decreased and add a /hurt animation after one shot. This would thaw the player until an ambulance arrives...
This would also give a bigger role to EMS, I am RP-ing as an EMT for the past few days and I only earn $10 a day, firemen rather go to a pizza shop since pizza can cure more than professional treatment ( A few pizzas = 100 percent, Healing in an ambulance = 10 percent ), and in the past few days I haven't received a single 911 call... Except for Ben prank-calling me.
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reducing the dmg won't make it more realistic it would be the opposite if you think about it.
I wasn't talking about combat shotgun, I ment increasing dmg of 9mm etc.
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They could also implement headshots for realism.
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I wasn't talking about combat shotgun, I ment increasing dmg of 9mm etc.
9mm not so much because you can run around with it.. but improved silenced damage would be nice.
9mm's main use is DB's nowdays..
They could also implement headshots for realism.
I'd like to see that.
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I wasn't talking about combat shotgun, I ment increasing dmg of 9mm etc.
(http://images.rapgenius.com/a0fw7gppl3vf89k4ncfuoj34d.552x464x1.jpg)
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They could also implement headshots for realism.
No, you don't know how annoying headshot = insta-kill is.
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No, you don't know how annoying headshot = insta-kill is.
Neither do you until you play against the most skilled players in VC:MP when they have M4 :rolleyes:
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I agree. We need to fix our flawed unban system which persistently welcomes back people who commit the same rulebreaks repeatedly. There is no thought "oh I might get banned, I shouldn't do this" before rulebreaking... the thought is "oh if I get banned, I'll be unbanned in a few weeks". If we could change that mindset then perhaps we could have a lot more to work with.
Better first create something that they will miss when not playing. Then even a ban of a few weeks will have impact.
Also HQ might want to look at the reasons for banning when a stricter disallow policy is in place.
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Adding headshot kills, is the same as adding back combats, rpg, miniguns..
Also to change the damage that weapons give is more then not needed. (Well rising the damage of 9mm wouldn't be bad, specially for gangs and our brother Playa)
The removal of combat, already influenced a lot in the way a shootout is happening, and its way more interesting then before, and its a positive change. But lets not suffocate it by making it more complicated.
Keep it simple people.
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Something useful for armours would be if you shoot on the head or legs, etc... where there is no armour, it would damage the player's health and not the armour.
However if you shoot the chest, where there is armour it removes HP from the armour.
This wouldn't work on SWAT skins, since their clothing is fully armoured.
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Something useful for armours would be if you shoot on the head or legs, etc... where there is no armour, it would damage the player's health and not the armour.
However if you shoot the chest, where there is armour it removes HP from the armour.
This wouldn't work on SWAT skins, since their clothing is fully armoured.
So where should we shot them, in the eyes?
Not a bad idea about armour tho.
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What would a DMer choose? 9mm or combat.
You can DM with a 9mm as well.
I actually enjoy not seeing a combat in any kind of shootouts. The shootout now needs more skill and it gets closer to realism
The sawn off has to be removed too
Realism? then we should be able to headshot and also kill with a fucking bullet with a 9mm.
sawn Has to be removed? If ppl need more skill why removing it?
If they quit for this reason then they are not on our server for the good purpose.
I play this server since 2010 and i'm pretty sure that if you remove sawn-off i wouldn't play this game as much as I do.
Combat sucks, sawn offs also.
If you got no skills you should improve them. Sawn-off is a hard weapon to learn.
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Had the same thought about the weapons... But they will never be removed
Yes remove it.
And let's RP shootouts :D
like this:
/me takes out his deagle as he notices the man aiming at him
/me notices the man shooting as he dodge the bullet, placing his right hand on the ground turning his left arm straight to the man, aiming him his dealge.
/me pulls the trigger.
/me notices that the man already had roleplayerd as he shot at him whilst he was typing.
/me gets shot on his shoulder as he shoots another bullet to the man.
/me notices the man being shoot at his leg.
/me reload his deagle.
/me notices the man shooting a bullet while he was reloading his weapon.
/me get shot on his head.
/kill.
REMOVE FISTS! So we can't kill each other by punching.Let's also remove the cars and let's see who /q the server because of it, they definately dont belong to the server if the /q because of that. And then remove the to test the players integrity, and if someone else /qs its because he also doesnt belong to the server... i mean we can ROLEPLAY f**cking DRIVING AND f**cking HOUSEs, Lets remove the 3d models of players and roleplay having a body . lets remove the entire fcking san andreas and roleplay in just a chat.
Mate, nobody's /q because of that kind of update! If he quit then he is not important here.
NO COMBAT HERE>
And then we got like 2/200 activity @night.
I think it's better to remove veteran DM'ers from the game completely, no chance of unban.
Yes ! And let's play sims!
Yes! Lets remove all past DM'ers who were banned once and completely block their path to argo. Extremely wise and fascinating idea!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol: :lol:
DM squads will find the next powerful weapon and it will start all over... just remember that on the first topic to remove another weapon.
???? If you are against this why did you aprove it in first place?! WTF
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@Jay42
Can you promise me, that with the combat back, we'll have more players that actually stay and RP?
I prefer those people over new guys just buying guns and DMing twice till their money is gone.
Do you think a potential good player cares if there is a combat or not? I don't think so.
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Yes ! And let's play sims!
I do, everyday.
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lol wtf does a weapon have to do with activity :/
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You can DM with a 9mm as well.
Realism? then we should be able to headshot and also kill with a f**cking bullet with a 9mm.
sawn Has to be removed? If ppl need more skill why removing it?
I play this server since 2010 and i'm pretty sure that if you remove sawn-off i wouldn't play this game as much as I do.
If you got no skills you should improve them. Sawn-off is a hard weapon to learn.
I don't even know if I should take you seriously or not based on your messages.
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And then we got like 2/200 activity @night.
Because @night people sleep. Many of us have work the next day and are not like people who waste their entire day on games. Go outside and live a life ffs.
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Because @night people sleep. Many of us have work the next day and are not like people who waste their entire day on games. Go outside and live a life ffs.
Yeah and also some people play other games than samp so if you think that combat can get us much activity as possible, then you are incorrect.
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Because @night people sleep. Many of us have work the next day and are not like people who waste their entire day on games. Go outside and live a life ffs.
Woaaaaah b4 there was like 50 players @ night (max daily players of argo now)
Why are you here then? go and live your fucking real life as I do with mine; If I play a game it means that I got no life? It makes no sense, use your brain instead of posting bullshit. this is related to the game. Combat is a normal gun, don't ban it, just change the fucking DMG of it.
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Woaaaaah b4 there was like 50 players @ night (max daily players of argo now)
Why are you here then? go and live your f**cking real life as I do with mine; If I play a game it means that I got no life? It makes no sense, use your brain instead of posting bullshit. this is related to the game. Combat is a normal gun, don't ban it, just change the f**cking DMG of it.
Well, insulting can get you nowhere...
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Well, as the tittle says, bring back combat. I don't use it also i don't even like that weapon, but I think that many people who likes to use combat will just /q because of it and we need activity. Removing combat won't stop DM. Just bring it back, not for me, but for many users of it.
If people leave just because they can't use a combat than I don't see why we need those people on the server in the first place.
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They could also implement headshots for realism.
Umm.. you do know that headshots aren't nearly as lethal as movies and TV shows put them out to be, right?
There are documented evidences of people surviving a shot to just about any part of the brain. You don't just shoot someone and they instantly fall to the ground and die, you usually just get off with some mental issues.
The only part of the body which, if shot, kills you instantly is the 'T area' between your nose and eyes. A blow to this part directly hits the system that controls your breathing and digestion, although the shock is more than enough to kill the average adult immediately. So no, headshots are not realistic at all.
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Neither do you until you play against the most skilled players in VC:MP when they have M4 :rolleyes:
:war:
Some weapons do deserve a buff(9mm), I would also like to see drugs affecting weapon damages on players.
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What the ...? How on earth can you think that having combat shotgun back ingame will increase the ammount of players online? If someone stopped playing just because the combat has been removed then that guy shouldn't have been here in the first place.
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this thread :lol:
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Woaaaaah b4 there was like 50 players @ night (max daily players of argo now)
Why are you here then? go and live your f**cking real life as I do with mine; If I play a game it means that I got no life? It makes no sense, use your brain instead of posting bullshit. this is related to the game. Combat is a normal gun, don't ban it, just change the f**cking DMG of it.
Lol. I play games on my spare time. I never said you got no life but if you expect players to be on during the night then i dont know what your life is about.
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Lol. I play games on my spare time. I never said you got no life but if you expect players to be on during the night then i dont know what your life is about.
When it is night for you it is daytime somewhere else in the world. ;)
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When it is night for you it is daytime somewhere else in the world. ;)
I know but he specifically mentioned night time. And i guess that he lives in the same timezone as me because thats he only time when we have super low player count.
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Lol. I play games on my spare time. I never said you got no life but if you expect players to be on during the night then i dont know what your life is about.
I'm not ONLY expecting players to be online during the night, but during the day as well. b4 there was like 150p
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I'm not ONLY expecting players to be online during the night, but during the day as well. b4 there was like 150p
It has nothing to do with combat shotgun or any other weapon restrictions that may be in the server so your statement has no relevance.
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PROFACT: 9mm effictivity proved to be 1,500x times harsher then atomic bomb.
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How weapons get handled have literally nothing to do with player activity. It was like this before the combat got removed.
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just lock this topic
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It has nothing to do with combat shotgun or any other weapon restrictions that may be in the server so your statement has no relevance.
It doesn't? If you remove things that players enjoy they will /q. Remove the whole cars then and you'll see.
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It doesn't? If you remove things that players enjoy they will /q. Remove the whole cars then and you'll see.
Dude wtf are you on about? No one has problems with it being disabled. I haven't seen anyone but you moaning.
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It doesn't? If you remove things that players enjoy they will /q. Remove the whole cars then and you'll see.
>plays on argonath cuz combat
>no other rp server has combat
Seriously, if you're that dependent on combat then it's about time you start roleplaying.
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lol.
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I don't have problems with disabling combat cause deagle is much powerful than combat 1 shoot from dealge almost equal 2 shoots from combat
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Nah, fuck it. 9mm all the way!
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Nah, fuck it. 9mm all the way!
:app: :app: :app:
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Nah, fuck it. 9mm all the way!
Couldn't have said it much better.
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Dual 9mm could be implemented tho.
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Dual 9mm could be implemented tho.
This.
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Shootouts with the pistol would be much more awesome IMHO.
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Okay, so.. 9 pages in one day, this is a record people.. :app:
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Okay, so.. 9 pages in one day, this is a record people.. :app:
All about a damn fucking Combat shotgun too! :rofl:
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So at the end of the day, the womans shotgun is not returning.
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I forgot to post my reply on this.
Haha, just bring combat back, can't we make a poll or something? >> Devin ;)
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This is not coming back, seriously :rofl:
@Nathan @Teddy someone lock this already
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Oh wow, combat? More like no-skill-pull-from-ass-gun.
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So at the end of the day, the womans shotgun is not returning.
Good, the rest of the weapons is enough for a nice shootout and the objective of the server isn't shooting anyway.
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Okay, so.. 9 pages in one day, this is a record people.. :app:
9 pages of someone whining about their favorite dmtool
/lock