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Title: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Khm on September 11, 2015, 11:49:36 pm
The Saudi Civil Defense authority confirmed that a crane collapsed through the ceiling of the mosque during strong winds created by a powerful storm. The collapse killed at least 87 people, injured 184 and trapped many pilgrims Witnesses reported that the crane fell on the third floor above Al-Safa and Al-Marwah at 5:45 pm local time.

There have been strong sand storms in the region over the past week. The authority said an hour before the disaster that Mecca was experiencing medium to heavy rains. There were also reports of winds of more than 25mph. However the exact cause of the crane collapse was not confirmed.

Following the accident the governor of Mecca, Prince Khaled Al Faisal, ordered an investigation into the incident. Search and rescue teams and medical workers from the Saudi Red Crescent were sent to the site. Pictures and video circulating on social media showed many dead and wounded amidst severe damage to the building. Some have thought this to be an omen from Allah stating his anger with the 9/11 terrorist attacks 14 years prior.

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Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Hevar. on September 12, 2015, 12:24:06 am
Why is that Crane doing there anyway? I blame the company, because they should think about the safery and THEY KNOW about that Saudi Arabia got sandstorm sometimes. So they should make extra stable for that. This is so sad
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Danny Soulson on September 12, 2015, 12:33:48 am
Why is that Crane doing there anyway? I blame the company, because they should think about the safery and THEY KNOW about that Saudi Arabia got sandstorm sometimes. So they should make extra stable for that. This is so sad
That company is in Big big Trouble
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Hady. on September 12, 2015, 12:41:30 am
Really bad news. Indeed, I blame the company too. Nevertheless, They died whilst doing something really good.

في الجنة انشاء الله
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Shorty. on September 12, 2015, 12:45:57 am
It's not because of the company, its because of the weather in KSA, storms...etc  :cry:

في الجنة انشاء الله

Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Pizza4_Games on September 12, 2015, 12:48:23 am
rip
btw i regret looking at stuff like this anymore, i'd rather look at homeless people getting 1000$ for being honest rather than watching people die...
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Khm on September 12, 2015, 02:25:53 am
I'd blame the company too, we have cranes here too and wind always go higher than 100Km/h but in Mecca it only reached 83Km/h and the crane went down horribly...
في الجنة انشاء الله
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: AK47 on September 12, 2015, 03:28:21 am
I'd blame the company aswell, they should have been better prepared. RIP to those who died
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Luke on September 12, 2015, 03:50:21 am
Here in the UK if a crane such as that one went down there would be murders in terms of the company, they would be absolute demolished in the courts. They should have used their common sense the company, as was aid before, RIP to all those effected.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Hevar. on September 12, 2015, 05:42:23 pm
Here in the UK if a crane such as that one went down there would be murders in terms of the company, they would be absolute demolished in the courts. They should have used their common sense the company, as was aid before, RIP to all those effected.

Yeah i hope the Director of that company get punishment, because they already been alert about that weather and they know that Saudi Arabia got terrible sandstorm. Thats why its their job to make it stable and perfect for that condition.

Anyway---i saw they got many more Cranes there so i hope those are safe now and stable.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on September 12, 2015, 05:45:41 pm
Revenge for 9/11, if any of these people who were killed or injured supported terrorists or evil actions or are terrorists or are evil people, then I am not sad for them. Buit if they were good people, may they rest in peace.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Brian on September 12, 2015, 05:51:04 pm
Revenge for 9/11, if any of these people who were killed or injured supported terrorists or evil actions or are terrorists or are evil people, then I am not sad for them. Buit if they were good people, may they rest in peace.
Of course, because all Muslims are terrorists, all whites are racist, and all blacks are thiefs. Use your fucking brain before you say something like that please.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on September 12, 2015, 05:56:55 pm
Of course, because all Muslims are terrorists, all whites are racist, and all blacks are thiefs. Use your f**cking brain before you say something like that please.

I just said IF ANY.

Muslims aren't terrorists or evil, well there is alot of them who are, but alot of them who aren't. Other people who are non-muslim can also be evil or a terrorist.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Khm on September 12, 2015, 06:05:14 pm
Revenge for 9/11, if any of these people who were killed or injured supported terrorists or evil actions or are terrorists or are evil people, then I am not sad for them.
If you want to talk, use your mind not your ass.
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Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on September 12, 2015, 06:08:50 pm
I don't know who represents anything, I think that many think that ISIS represents a new religion. While others think it represents Islam. And about those guys in the white clothes, I don't know what to say about them.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Hevar. on September 12, 2015, 06:20:45 pm
Revenge for 9/11, if any of these people who were killed or injured supported terrorists or evil actions or are terrorists or are evil people, then I am not sad for them. Buit if they were good people, may they rest in peace.

Saying like that, makes you dumb. Serious.....those people gor killed for no reason and you are not feeling sad? Grow up! And stop say '' 9/11 revenge''

You don't need to be Muslim to care, you just need to be human!
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Hevar. on September 12, 2015, 06:22:42 pm
I don't know who represents anything, I think that many think that ISIS represents a new religion. While others think it represents Islam. And about those guys in the white clothes, I don't know what to say about them.

You are brainwashed by your parents or other people that made you think that all muslims are ISIS or islam supports ISIS. You know what....take out your head from your ass and GET FACT RIGHT. Serious!
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Archie on September 12, 2015, 06:25:05 pm
I don't know who represents anything, I think that many think that ISIS represents a new religion. While others think it represents Islam. And about those guys in the white clothes, I don't know what to say about them.
It's okay not to know, but talking about a topic that you don't know is a bit disturbing, maybe not for you but definitely for the others.

Calm down guys, he now knows what he did wrong :)
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on September 12, 2015, 09:17:16 pm
I live in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

I am sorry, but just in my school I was tought that Islam was evil. I see Islam as a peaceful and great religion, but yet, a part of muslims are evil. But other muslims are good people.

What is confusing?

A big ammount of muslims are evil or support evil, while a more BIG AMMOUNT of muslims are peaceful and are good people.

Srsly guys, everywhere around me, with my friends or relatives, or on news. Its all about muslims doing evil stuff etc...

I am a catholic, I don't know much about Islam, but as I see there is alot of muslims which are evil. But there is also much of muslims which are peaceful and good.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: AK47 on September 12, 2015, 09:24:07 pm
Yeah and every christian is nazi
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Hady. on September 12, 2015, 09:26:48 pm
ISIS and others.. only represent less than 1% of muslims.. And yes, They are our enemies too we don't and we will never support them. They kill us too and irritate us. On the other hand, other countries support them. I won't mention names but you can see the diffrerence..

Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: wweman14 on September 12, 2015, 09:30:26 pm
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un. RIP to the lives lost, shame it turns into an argument now.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Hamza_Khan on September 12, 2015, 09:41:06 pm
I live in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

I am sorry, but just in my school I was tought that Islam was evil. I see Islam as a peaceful and great religion, but yet, a part of muslims are evil. But other muslims are good people.

What is confusing?

A big ammount of muslims are evil or support evil, while a more BIG AMMOUNT of muslims are peaceful and are good people.

Srsly guys, everywhere around me, with my friends or relatives, or on news. Its all about muslims doing evil stuff etc...

I am a catholic, I don't know much about Islam, but as I see there is alot of muslims which are evil. But there is also much of muslims which are peaceful and good.
I feel for you then if your are being misguided in your school, the thing has been openly stated in Islam that it doesn't support any kind of evil act or any evil individual, yet people mostly blame Muslims for the bad doings around the globe, in Quran it is stated clearly that Islam doesn't support the killing of any innocent from any religion, and whoever kills any innocent and call himself a Muslim, but in the circle of Islam he isn't, I hope my message was clear for you, I don't want to get myself in deep shit, but have you ever thought why ISIS and other terrorist organization always target Muslim countries? if they call themselves Muslims then why they target other Muslims? not any non-muslim country? Think about it.

Sometimes a little bit of info before preaching something can be beneficial.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on September 12, 2015, 10:05:41 pm
I see Islam as a peaceful religion. I know that Quran says about those things not to kill etc... But, I don't want to start a fight but, alot of muslims break those laws, and by that I mean Muslim terrorist organizations and muslim non-terrorists etc...

If your saying that terrorists and evil doers in Islam aren't muslims, then Islam isn't the 2nd nor 3rd etc... largest religion in the world, no offence, bro.

There are many muslims which do evil things, but the Quran forbids it. But there are many muslims who are really peaceful and good, and they follow the Quran, and I respect people who are peaceful and good.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Archie on September 12, 2015, 10:09:23 pm
There are many muslims which do evil things, but the Quran forbids it.
The ones you mentioned here are basically not Muslims as told in Quran. Of course Islam isn't the largest religion in the world lol, you would have to be blind not to see that clearly.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: AK47 on September 12, 2015, 10:11:19 pm
I see Islam as a peaceful religion. I know that Quran says about those things not to kill etc... But, I don't want to start a fight but, alot of muslims break those laws, and by that I mean Muslim terrorist organizations and muslim non-terrorists etc...

If your saying that terrorists and evil doers in Islam aren't muslims, then Islam isn't the 2nd nor 3rd etc... largest religion in the world, no offence, bro.

There are many muslims which do evil things, but the Quran forbids it. But there are many muslims who are really peaceful and good, and they follow the Quran, and I respect people who are peaceful and good.

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Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Brian on September 12, 2015, 10:12:57 pm
I see Islam as a peaceful religion. I know that Quran says about those things not to kill etc... But, I don't want to start a fight but, alot of muslims break those laws, and by that I mean Muslim terrorist organizations and muslim non-terrorists etc...

If your saying that terrorists and evil doers in Islam aren't muslims, then Islam isn't the 2nd nor 3rd etc... largest religion in the world, no offence, bro.

There are many muslims which do evil things, but the Quran forbids it. But there are many muslims who are really peaceful and good, and they follow the Quran, and I respect people who are peaceful and good.
You do realize that less than 1 per cent of the 'Muslims' do acts of terror, where of less than 5 per cent of those acts actually succeed. The fact that you talk about stuff you barely know anything about and just blame a 'big group' of Muslims for being terrorist, or evil. If you really don't know jack shit about a subject, please do keep your mouth shut as you are just making yourself look stupid. I am an atheist myself but I just get disgusted by people that think that they know stuff and they just talk crap.
Not all Muslims are terrorists, less than one per cent of the people in that religion think of terrorizing people, and most of them don't even do it for their religion, but because people made them believe stuff. Just think about all the shootings, terrorist acts, or just people breaking the law, that are not Muslim are happening every day. So just do yourself a favor and stop talking about it as you clearly don't understand the religion, or what the people in the religion do, and just say that they are terrorist. And if you really think that if they don't count the people that do have terrorist thoughts, towards the Muslim religion, then you are just showing yourself less capable of understanding what people doing and what the number of people actually doing those type of acts is.

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Islam is the world's second largest religion. According to a 2010 study and released January 2011, Islam has 1.57 billion adherents, making up over 23% of the world population. According to the Pew Research Center in 2015 there were 50 Muslim-majority countries.
Have fun reading that.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Omar Aly on September 12, 2015, 10:23:39 pm
Revenge for 9/11, if any of these people who were killed or injured supported terrorists or evil actions or are terrorists or are evil people, then I am not sad for them. Buit if they were good people, may they rest in peace.

"If any of the people who were killed or injured in 9/11 supported racist or criminal groups or did evil action or are evil people, then I am not sad for them..."

- Now you see how offensive and stupid you sounded? By the way I feel sorry for everyone who died for a mistake of another, wheter in 9/11 or in that case.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Hamza_Khan on September 12, 2015, 10:24:13 pm
I see Islam as a peaceful religion. I know that Quran says about those things not to kill etc... But, I don't want to start a fight but, alot of muslims break those laws, and by that I mean Muslim terrorist organizations and muslim non-terrorists etc...

If your saying that terrorists and evil doers in Islam aren't muslims, then Islam isn't the 2nd nor 3rd etc... largest religion in the world, no offence, bro.

There are many muslims which do evil things, but the Quran forbids it. But there are many muslims who are really peaceful and good, and they follow the Quran, and I respect people who are peaceful and good.
You see Islam as a peaceful religion, but its followers Muslims are evils or majority of them are from your point of view? lol absolutely f**k logic, and by the way what is it concern with being the 2nd or 3rd largest religion?

And what is terrorism in your eyes? since you are using the word ''evil'', Evil means doing any kind of sin not a terror act, there is a difference between doing kind of sin or a terrorism act, a normal kind of sin can be worthy of forgiveness but a terror act is forbidden in Islam.
and breaking the law isn't terrorism act, lol.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Bundy on September 12, 2015, 10:39:21 pm
Revenge for 9/11
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Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Yasko on September 12, 2015, 10:49:02 pm
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Malik. on September 12, 2015, 10:52:06 pm
Muslims aren't terrorists or evil, well there is alot of them who are, but alot of them who aren't.
Only 2% of all muslims are terrorists (if you can still call them muslims after those actions), you should stop making yourself look even more stupid.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on September 12, 2015, 10:57:32 pm
What is the other 98%, if you say that the other 98% is peaceful, don't even get me started.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Khm on September 12, 2015, 11:09:36 pm
What is the other 98%, if you say that the other 98% is peaceful, don't even get me started.
Quote from: Qur'an 5:32
We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity.
So with what you want to get started?
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Devin on September 12, 2015, 11:10:43 pm
There's a reason the politics and religion board was removed from the forum as people are unable to have a civilized debate.
There's no need to argue over religions and beliefs over here.

Pay some respect to those that lost their lives whilst giving praise to what they believe in and keep this on topic.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Ivan_Dzeba on September 12, 2015, 11:28:05 pm
50% or 60% of muslims are real muslims. other 50% or 40% are doing what they are not supposed to do. That includes terrorists and non-terrorists. And by non-terrorists I mean sinners or criminals etc... Yes, terrorists are sinners and criminals, but other people can be sinners and criminals without being a terrorist.

I find History interesting, and I have always learned about History. Islam has done many good things, but it has done bad things, which caused the deaths of thousands and thousands.

My country's history and world's history taught me that alot of muslims have done very great things, but also very bad things.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Brian on September 12, 2015, 11:36:29 pm
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Any type of religion, race or just group of people have done both good or bad things. And I would really suggest you to google terrorism, and standard crime.
In the past 60-70 years the united states has caused more innocent deaths than any terrorist group, of any religion has done. Remember that there are not only extremist Muslim groups, but there's also a huge amount of extreme christian groups that do terrorist attacks. But as Devin said, lets stay on topic and stop the unneeded useless discussion.

May all the people that have passed away at this tragedy rest in peace.
Title: Re: Crane collapse, leaving at least 87 dead
Post by: Dean. on September 13, 2015, 09:32:56 pm
It's sad that something like this happens. I will leave the investigation up to the local authorities instead of speculate who's to blame as there are many things that can change the outcome of this event in particular.

The fact that religions are being involved in this topic is completely off-topic and will only cause more drama as we've seen in the past. Therefor, let's not discuss religions but just comment on his horrible event in a decent and respectful way.

Thank you.
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