Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Teddy on October 12, 2015, 06:24:46 pm
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Good Evening,
We want to make something clear to everyone. We will no longer be transferring properties such as businesses and houses which are owned by banned players to their group unless it is a main group HQ OR you have a contract with the player in advance. Houses and businesses are not owned by groups, they're owned by people, thus cannot be transferred solely because "they're banned and in our group".
Properties not covered by a contract will be sold after the inactivity period.
Enjoy.
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And the old ones? Seems like it's a trend.
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And the old ones? Seems like it's a trend.
I'm reversing a few recent ones, more older one's would be inappropriate to reverse at this point.
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I'm reversing a few recent ones
Why?
Also what is your response to this?:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=29051.msg1794281#msg1794281 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=29051.msg1794281#msg1794281)
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Offtopic removed, behave..
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Why?
Also what is your response to this?:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=29051.msg1794281#msg1794281 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=29051.msg1794281#msg1794281)
Response on what? Our activity and roleplays? Just because some people see something that might bother them is our problem now? Haters might be bothered about our activity, so now what, we shouldn't post pictures of 10+ people? Ivan simply posted pictures from all the events and roleplay in which we were engaged today.
Its also awfully hypocritical, knowing that the previous owners, were doing /ad Buying weed at UpHill Garden QUEENS! | for months, yet no one biatched about it.
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Response on what? Our activity and roleplays? Just because some people see something that might bother them is our problem now? Haters might be bothered about our activity, so now what, we shouldn't post pictures of 10+ people? Ivan simply posted pictures from all the events and roleplay in which we were engaged today.
Its also awfully hypocritical, knowing that the previous owners, were doing /ad Buying weed at UpHill Garden QUEENS! | for months, yet no one biatched about it.
Slow your roll, mate.
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Provocation towards forum staff removed - Nathan.
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Do not start lashing out at each other.
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Why?
In the interest of being fair the entire community. It's entirely unfair for properties to be sold, before the 3 month deadline, to an exclusive party which has no right to the property. This has always been a thing just never enforced properly until now.
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In the interest of being fair the entire community. It's entirely unfair for properties to be sold, before the 3 month deadline, to an exclusive party which has no right to the property. This has always been a thing just never enforced properly until now.
Yeah, I wasn't asking about that. I was asking about the recent properties, undoing what Leon did, and the aftermath of that.
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Yeah, I wasn't asking about that. I was asking about the recent properties, undoing what Leon did, and the aftermath of that.
Yes, I understand it was unfair to a certain group. However it's a greater good situation. Be unfair to a group or be unfair to an entire community. Tough choices no doubt and I admit I don't always make the right ones.
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Yes, I understand it was unfair to a certain group. However it's a greater good situation. Be unfair to a group or be unfair to an entire community. Tough choices no doubt and I admit I don't always make the right ones.
It seems to me it would've been fair to the community if what happened before the clarification/new rule in this topic, stayed what it was. Not only has this certain group been duped now, but there's also some provocation going on now. I'm completely neutral in this so I feel I should speak up about that.
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It seems to me it would've been fair to the community if what happened before the clarification/new rule in this topic, stayed what it was. Not only has this certain group been duped now, but there's also some provocation going on now. I'm completely neutral in this so I feel I should speak up about that.
They haven't been duped. They lied to managers about reclaiming a group property which was supposedly theirs, which it wasn't. They've already gotten away with it once, and that is what's unfair.
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They haven't been duped. They lied to managers about reclaiming a group property which was supposedly theirs, which it wasn't. They've already gotten away with it once, and that is what's unfair.
Managers have possibility to prove the money transfers along with chat. However I don't tolerate someone accusing is for liars. Get your shit straight up before you go forward your speculations. I ignored this case until now, but let's ask here whats happened with queens hotel being reserved with icon of official groups prohibiting other samp members to purchase it legally?
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Managers have possibility to prove the money transfers along with chat. However I don't tolerate someone accusing is for liars. Get your shit straight up before you go forward your speculations. I ignored this case until now, but let's ask here whats happened with queens hotel being reserved with icon of official groups prohibiting other samp members to purchase it legally?
I as I explained to you, I am more than happy to refund you the money from Paulie's account. However groups do not own properties that aren't group types. People own them. If they are apart of a larger entity, the lager entity should have a contractual agreement over the ownership and rights of the property.
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Excuse me if we made our way through ranks and finally hit the recognized stats.....
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Managers have possibility to prove the money transfers along with chat. However I don't tolerate someone accusing is for liars. Get your shit straight up before you go forward your speculations. I ignored this case until now, but let's ask here whats happened with queens hotel being reserved with icon of official groups prohibiting other samp members to purchase it legally?
Yes, it's a coincidence that Rei owned Market Ammu way before he joined Sopranos, and that it was called "Corleone Ammu" while he was in Corleone, and when he left Corleone he took it with him to every other group he joined. Even when in Soprano the name was most of the time "Yakuza Ammu-Nation" or something like that.
Queens Hotel was never reserved with official groups icon, it was owned by another person. :rolleyes:
And you see we didn't get extra time to to buy our HQ when we lost it, so please...
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I as I explained to you, I am more than happy to refund you the money from Paulie's account. However groups do not own properties that aren't group types. People own them. If they are apart of a larger entity, the lager entity should have a contractual agreement over the ownership and rights of the property.
There is another thing that you explain to me "This case is not for debate" yet I'm being accused for manipulation. From moderator member of community: Manipulating whom? Manager of SAMP! So I'm that master mind to cause brawl within HQ between members of staff speaking about what happened without knowing anything and without having facts.
I don't need to lie for things that my patented corporation owns. However, I said that I wont send this case to courts, since is clearly the similar case that those guys who are yelling around had one month ago after Rusty sold one inactive bizz in doherty, you remember very well. So as i see there's lack of communication and misinformation between staff members: You, Anotnio and everyone who's involved. Assuming in public that i lied managers inspires me to ask for attention of president.
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Queens Hotel was never reserved with official groups icon, it was owned by another person. :rolleyes:
Provocation towards staff removed - Nathan.
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Queens Hotel was never reserved with official groups icon, it was owned by another person. :rolleyes:
it was, i checked it by myself a few months ago and when tried to activate the bizz recognized group icon came then somedays after it other person bought it.
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Queens Hotel was never reserved with official groups icon, it was owned by another person. :rolleyes:
Hmm?
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2vcxf2x.png)
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Very surprised and very amazed for the provocations toward me and my group for being liars and manipulators when everyone knows our attributes, however I'm out of this show, i got my competence to protect toward the ones who didn't denied yet my progress. Continue now my dears.
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There is another thing that you explain to me "This case is not for debate" yet I'm being accused for manipulation. From moderator member of community: Manipulating whom? Manager of SAMP! So I'm that master mind to cause brawl within HQ between members of staff speaking about what happened without knowing anything and without having facts.
I don't need to lie for things that my patented corporation owns. However, I said that I wont send this case to courts, since is clearly the similar case that those guys who are yelling around had one month ago after Rusty sold one inactive bizz in doherty, you remember very well. So as i see there's lack of communication and misinformation between staff members: You, Anotnio and everyone who's involved. Assuming in public that i lied managers inspires me to ask for attention of president.
Bring on the case, mate and put your money where your mouth is, because both situations weren't the same. Everything else is pretty much gibberish to me.
And for Queens Hotel, the property was owned by Devin, and before that the property was set and unset several times by different people, yet was never bought. If that picture was months ago, as you guys say, then it was before Devin bought it.
Very surprised and very amazed for the provocations toward me and my group for being liars and manipulators when everyone knows our attributes, however I'm out of this show, i got my competence to protect toward the ones who didn't denied yet my progress. Continue now my dears.
Very surprised you're just defending yourself as usual without being able to back it up. *sarcasm*
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Yes, it's a coincidence that Rei owned Market Ammu way before he joined Sopranos, and that it was called "Corleone Ammu" while he was in Corleone, and when he left Corleone he took it with him to every other group he joined. Even when in Soprano the name was most of the time "Yakuza Ammu-Nation" or something like that.
Provocation towards staff removed - Nathan.
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it was, i checked it by myself a few months ago and when tried to activate the bizz recognized group icon came then somedays after it other person bought it.
It was never "reserved with a group icon". The icon was set at one point however it could not be removed but only deactivated.
A staff member then ignorantly activated both markers at the same time or activated the other when one was already activated for god knows what reason.
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Your incompetence as staff member continues more when you reveals the ignorance in public. Being economical judge and CEO of Gvardia Corp. you should not fail so hard. Continue your thing now we're not even interested to deal with this. It's not our job.
Hi Big.S
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Your incompetence as staff member continues more when you reveals the ignorance in public. Being economical judge and CEO of Gvardia Corp. you should not fail so hard. Continue your thing now we're not even interested to deal with this. It's not our job.
What does any of my work as a staff member have to do with anything I said, what I referred to happened before I even became a moderator. Calling someone incompetent yet you're not even competent enough to keep yourself from banevading with another account.
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Your incompetence as staff member continues more when you reveals the ignorance in public. Being economical judge and CEO of Gvardia Corp. you should not fail so hard. Continue your thing now we're not even interested to deal with this. It's not our job.
Provocation removed - Nathan.
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Play nice now..
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So this is the place where all professionals share their opinions and their ideas yeah? What a failure.
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So this is the place where all professionals share their opinions and their ideas yeah? What a failure.
:app: :app:
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So, now that we established that Queens Hotel wasn't reserved by a icon of an offical group, yet it was bugged, which you can even see at the same picture Salmonella posted as a "proof", got any more questions? How about a: "Yes I was wrong"?
Provocation removed - Nathan.
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Locking this thread to prevent a shitstorm.
Warns will be issued shortly.
EDIT: Scratch that, removed the provoking posts. If you have a concern or wish to bring up the topic again, do so in private. Further cases of bring up this subject will result in forum punishments.
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Learn to read, I stated above that anyone continuing on the matter will have consequences. Post removed. - Nathan
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I'm old enough to understand how things work here, including confidential informations: but never happened that a new rule enters in effect today, to touch the actions which happened yesterday.
Its not some "new rule", its something that Teddy just made a clarification for people. When our ex Capo was banned and basically left Argo, We had to show the contract for the AmmuNation, in order to transfer it, even tho everyone knew it was ours, it had "Gvardia Corporation" all over it, and he even informed the HQ staff via forum PM and also via MSN(nostalgia :D).
And this is 2009 or 2010 I'm talking about.
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Its not some "new rule", its something that Teddy just made a clarification for people. When our ex Capo was banned and basically left Argo, We had to show the contract for the AmmuNation, in order to transfer it, even tho everyone knew it was ours, it had "Gvardia Corporation" all over it, and he even informed the HQ staff via forum PM and also via MSN(nostalgia :D).
And this is 2009 or 2010 I'm talking about.
If "contract" is called, /L and /ME plus f8, okay we got it, we must prepare the case in court, but sad actuality is that we need similar contract like this (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=114187.msg1794384#new)
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If "contract" is called, /L and /ME plus f8, okay we got it, we must prepare the case in court, but sad actuality is that we need similar contract like this (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=114187.msg1794384#new)
And like Cofiliano said, he's talking about 2009-2010, where there was a similar rule but now it just got redone.